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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
Gumshoe, with both your failing to read the Day 1 post, trying to switch back to policy discussion after suspicions have been thrown around, and calling for early roleclaims I am finding you to be very lynchable right now. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18400 Posts
On March 22 2012 02:41 gumshoe wrote: Wasn't aware, always thought mayors were just achieved through consensus. In regard to Acrofales I'm sure your well aware that my sympathies always go to first time townies who fuck up at the start, but his response was just pure ombus, which was similar to sloosh and ech in suprisingly normal mini mafia, yet the difference was in that game Sloosh and Ech kept fighting blow for blow because they knew they were townies, Acrofales just sort of clammed up. He's not fighting hard enough, which first time newbie townies tend to do way too much. I'm down for voting for him not because of his silly ombus, but because he backed down when pressured. Acrofales + Show Spoiler + As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit Townies don't just calm down when their under pressure. He's either blue(which is unlikely considering his ombus) a total noob green(also unlikely because he just dropped his hostile tone when the pressure came down) or scum(the most probable) Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? It could help your case, also why did you vote for Mattchew in the first place? My reason for not going after Mattchew (or Chaoser for that matter) is precisely because I have since realised it's a random vote to troll me and get a reaction. I think he got quite the reaction, so it succeeded rather well. It also got lots of other people talking, which is a double plus! I am still interested to know why he voted for me, but I am smart enough to know that that is not a reason to suspect him of being mafia off the bat. In fact, it's not enough for me to decide either way. YOU, however, have done nothing but spread misinformation with your posts. You spend three entire posts (not short either) on Littlefinger: + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2012 01:34 gumshoe wrote: Alright just woke up, On the topic of random voting, I don't mind it so long as its a means to an end. It should generate discussion not baseless band wagons  Also on the issue of third party. Isn't little finger sort of irrelevant to town? I mean unless he's going to act like a total dick and try to get himself lynched he really shouldn't be a problem for us, its scum who have to worry about shooting him. Townies look for scum, scum look for third party, lets not do scum's job for them by finding the guy whose potentially the biggest threat to their operation. It's better if little finger stays hidden looks like a helpful blue and soaks up a hit. I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about him, I just don't want to give him away(which as far as we know makes no difference to him) until scum finds him on their own, because just by being there as he is he disrupts and confuses scum. For the record though I think he has to ensure that catelyn survives no matter what(or maybe sansa) and ned dies. Or maybe he just has to identify everyone. It'll be near impossible to confirm our theories until later when we've seen someone act peculiar(like a third party would) even then though like I said before it might still be a good idea to keep Baelish under wraps. Next up, Xatalos, why did you vote for me of all people? Is it because I'm a newer player eg an easy target to pressure/bandwagon? On March 22 2012 01:42 gumshoe wrote: Why waste a hit? I find it hard to believe Scum are going to come forward like that and claim Baelish(it seems to crazy for even a player like Caller) so way I see it where is either a vanilla townie way down below in flea bottom dreaming of some day ruling the kingdom with an iron fist, or hes baelish and we waste a hit/reveal third party to scum. Personally I think we should stay clear of trying to lynch Baelish, unless someone claims there him just before we kill him, in which case they fully deserve to die as we had already decided. If we lynch Where it should be because we think hes scum, not Baelish, do you really think Where is scum this early in the game? On March 22 2012 01:50 gumshoe wrote: Thank you Jackson ( : but keep in mind it is possible(though unlikely considering scums hate for flashy play early on) that Where is scum, we shouldnt just take his word for anything but I agree talking about Baelish is pointless and benefits scum the most. For now we can just ignore Where as if he was just a dumb poster. moving on lets discuss policy(it'll only take a bit and we may as well get it over with early on) do we set a preliminary lynch deadline?(im leaning 8 hours in advance if we do) Do we policy lynch hardcore lurkers?(by hardcore I mean like 3 one liners a cycle, personally for this because lynching lurkers always helps clear the air a bit and they werent helping anyway so nothing really lost) are we going to elect a mayor?( I've never done this before so I dont know how that works) in which you claim not to have read the D1 post properly, but you might equally well be trying to confuse any productive discussion happening in the thread. On top of that you ask about the mayor election, which even I had gathered does not happen unless Curu says it does: more misinformation and confusion to be cleared up, rather than spending time on useful stuff. You end the last post with a request to talk about policy, but instead, as Oberyn put it nicely: On March 22 2012 01:57 Oberyn wrote: If you want to discuss policy, then why are you just giving a bunch of questions? You should share what your actual opinion is. A no-lynch should be out of the question as this person suggests: And now, to top it all off, you decide that I am scummy for backing down from a fight with someone I have no information about one way or the other. I'm inclined to call that an attempt at getting me bandwagoned. On top of that, you ask for me to roleclaim, which serves no point whatsoever, because nobody has any reason to believe me one way or the other this early in the game. So no, I won't play your scummy games. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Poll: Should I help town or scum? Me (11) Town (4) Scum (2) 17 total votes Your vote: Should I help town or scum? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18400 Posts
On March 22 2012 03:02 risk.nuke wrote: Who wants to kill gumshoe? yey or ney? yey | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18400 Posts
PS. I read through a couple of games before signing up for this one. It's quite different to play than to watch! :D | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On March 22 2012 03:15 Acrofales wrote: Any further discussion will have to wait til I'm home. Be back in about an hour. PS. I read through a couple of games before signing up for this one. It's quite different to play than to watch! :D explain to me why you are not scum. you have 90 minutes | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On March 22 2012 03:04 Alderan wrote: I've played with gumshoe a couple times now, and he always seems to start out slow but then get better and eventually help. He's the kind of person that's going to post enough to eventually hang himself if he is indeed scum, I say we leave him for now. No one gets a "free pass", not in a game that i'm in. Im not going to let someone who posts like that live for long, especially if its on the basis of, Oh he will probably get better, dont worry about it. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On March 22 2012 03:22 Mattchew wrote: explain to me why you are not scum. you have 90 minutes Explain to us why he is. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
over defensive "im a noob" that doesn't want to be be put in the spotlight. look at his reaction compared to the other "noob" guy with a vote on him. its way more aggressive and emotionally angry. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
Acrofales On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote: Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game. Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. This seems like a slight overeaction to what is essentially a nothing vote, plus making a theory which he then backs down from almost straight away: As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit, with later people talking about the random votes. It is my first game (ever) and I was hoping to live past the first day. People instavoting for me got me a bit upset. I am happy to unvote Matthew when a better candidate comes up, the ghost of High Heart is kinda cryptic when it comes to her prophecies It was more of a "if you vote for me, then I'll vote for you"-thing anyway. Seems very keen to try to suddenly make friends with everyone again eh? GreYMisT On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote: Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain. Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what. Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party? Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. Seems too keen to play on the confusion around WBG. Lynching him even though it is explicitly stated that he is unlynchable? Explain to us why he is. One of these content-less scumesq posts imo. Lets hear some actual opinions on people? On the topic of Wherebugsgo, I'd love to completely ignore him if possible, though I doubt that will end up happening.... | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote: Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain. Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what. Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party? . On March 22 2012 03:22 Mattchew wrote: explain to me why you are not scum. you have 90 minutes ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cs4Iv.jpg) btw guys I've decided to help both factions. If you're town, you should kill GreYMisT. If you're scum, you should kill sandro/syllo. I'm me, and I know I'm scum, so I have to do this: ##vote wherebugsgo | ||
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
If it wasnt already apparent that the "Guys we should lynch wherebugsgo, just to be sure" was a joke, me saying later that it was should have made it quite clear. But enough of that, At the moment I would much prefer lynching Gumshoe over anyone else at this point. Notice how he jumps on the easiest lynch he can find, and then later he turns into more of a "sympathetic townie" where he give Acro a way out of the lynch (ie. claiming). in this way a Scum Gumshoe would win both ways. He either gets a townie lynched, or gets his role. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On March 22 2012 03:29 Zealos wrote: Seems too keen to play on the confusion around WBG. Lynching him even though it is explicitly stated that he is unlynchable? One of these content-less scumesq posts imo. Lets hear some actual opinions on people? Hmm... I didn't really think too much about GreYMisT wanting to lynch Wherebugsgo, since I thought he just hadn't read the rules at first or something. But he's clearly not a beginner (hosting the Aperture Mafia and all), so I have to ask, what was your purpose to do that? To confuse the discussion, or was it just a mistake? I wouldn't say this is any real evidence of being in Mafia, but I just can't think of a reason for a townie to do that? :O That second post though, I don't it's suspicious. Isn't it reasonable to question someone who is so overzealous to hear explanations (I can't think of any way for Acrofales to prove his innocence, anyway - even his role reveal would be be more harmful than useful, if he is town...). | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
And you guys thought I was trolling | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
I understand the need to question someone who is trying to lynch, but he was only asking for a post from Acro about his constant forwards and back with his opinions. If he wants to prove to be innocent (To the extent that is possible at this point in the game) then he should tell us what he makes of the game thusfar. | ||
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