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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 24 2011 12:34 GMT
#1501
Chaos I was going to make that point at the end of the night phase for discussion tomorrow. I had no desire to open another can of worms in light of DB turning yesterday into a derp fest. The opportunity presented itself and I decided to roll with it.
Life can only kill you once.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 24 2011 12:39 GMT
#1502
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts jackal.
Computer says mafia
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 24 2011 12:39 GMT
#1503
Hey guys, sorry I forgot to vote and haven't been active, to be honest the thread exploding sorta scared me off for a while but I'm caught up, have free time, and am hunting through everything. To start I need to ask: Palmar I just was filtering your posts and you had quite the change of heart over Mig, you might have already explained it but could you please go over exactly what made you change your mind so heavily about him being scum?
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 24 2011 12:41 GMT
#1504
Also thank you GMarshal I really appreciate you not mod-killing me and I promise to stay active from here on out.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 24 2011 12:42 GMT
#1505
Do I have to go back to find the post?

He wrote a big post about simply being fed up with mafia. I believed him because I've played quite a bit with Mig, enough to know that it's very unlike him to try and use excuses like that if he was scum. He's much more likely to be genuine and be town.

In addition, his posting dramatically improved in the latter half of the last tday.
Computer says mafia
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
August 24 2011 12:52 GMT
#1506
On August 24 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
yeah, probably not bad, just scum


On August 24 2011 21:31 Palmar wrote:
from now on, you don't exist chaos13. Go talk to visceraeyes. He's town though, you not so much.


Vigis hit Palmar tonight for his complete disregard for posting anything useful. His spam is the reason we haven't hit scum yet.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
August 24 2011 12:53 GMT
#1507
On August 24 2011 21:34 Jackal58 wrote:
Chaos I was going to make that point at the end of the night phase for discussion tomorrow. I had no desire to open another can of worms in light of DB turning yesterday into a derp fest. The opportunity presented itself and I decided to roll with it.


Unfortunately I have no way of proving this to be true. I'll just have to wait and see how things turn out with you.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
August 24 2011 13:09 GMT
#1508
On August 24 2011 21:42 Palmar wrote:
Do I have to go back to find the post?

He wrote a big post about simply being fed up with mafia. I believed him because I've played quite a bit with Mig, enough to know that it's very unlike him to try and use excuses like that if he was scum. He's much more likely to be genuine and be town.

In addition, his posting dramatically improved in the latter half of the last tday.


but you don't find his change of heart to be scummy? Suddenly starting to put extra effort into posting after having "genuinely" stated that he's burned out – is that part of his meta too?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 24 2011 13:09 GMT
#1509
On August 24 2011 19:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
You're not scum because you're right.

You're scum because you were right when no one else was.


This is going into my profile.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 24 2011 13:10 GMT
#1510
On August 24 2011 22:09 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 21:42 Palmar wrote:
Do I have to go back to find the post?

He wrote a big post about simply being fed up with mafia. I believed him because I've played quite a bit with Mig, enough to know that it's very unlike him to try and use excuses like that if he was scum. He's much more likely to be genuine and be town.

In addition, his posting dramatically improved in the latter half of the last tday.


but you don't find his change of heart to be scummy? Suddenly starting to put extra effort into posting after having "genuinely" stated that he's burned out – is that part of his meta too?


That's exactly what I'd expect him to, he's Mig, he's a nice guy and a fair player, he doesn't want to cause the town to mislynch him, so he mans up and posts some good stuff.

That's what I think.

I'll probably just write a big post before daybreak about all the things that I think, then I'll just let you guys decide if what I say will ever become something to listen to.
Computer says mafia
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
August 24 2011 13:41 GMT
#1511
Oh... Sorry guys. School just started and I forgot I signed up for this.
You recognise me because of my signature!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 24 2011 15:31 GMT
#1512
I am more sure of chaos13 being mafia than anyone else in this game.

He cannot possibly be this bad at mafia, I've actually seen him play really good town games, but as per my analysis right here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11038314

I suggest we lynch him tomorrow.
Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 24 2011 15:36 GMT
#1513
supersoft won't make it tomorrow, I sincerely apologize, but dead scum is something we need.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
August 24 2011 15:38 GMT
#1514
Well kurumi, I thought that you wanted to lynch me if hiro flips red.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 24 2011 15:41 GMT
#1515
...
Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 24 2011 15:45 GMT
#1516
On August 25 2011 00:38 supersoft wrote:
Well kurumi, I thought that you wanted to lynch me if hiro flips red.

Do You think I am dumb? Just because You weren't on wagon which led on townie lynch does not make You a townie, same goes with lynches going on mafia. Sure, You CAN be Town, but there are many shenanigans which could happen.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 24 2011 15:48 GMT
#1517
On August 25 2011 00:45 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 00:38 supersoft wrote:
Well kurumi, I thought that you wanted to lynch me if hiro flips red.

Do You think I am dumb? Just because You weren't on wagon which led on townie lynch does not make You a townie, same goes with lynches going on mafia. Sure, You CAN be Town, but there are many shenanigans which could happen.


You're basically claiming a vigilante and your target 11 hours before the deadline.

If somehow you're not scum and supersoft is (the chances of this are very low) the scumteam will just block the shot with a doctor or roleblock you.

Unless you have a bigger plan (trying to draw a roleblock... or something... I don't know...) this is basically a terrible way to shoot.
Computer says mafia
InserT_FreQ
Profile Joined August 2011
United States99 Posts
August 24 2011 15:54 GMT
#1518
On August 24 2011 11:26 nard wrote:
.. what a dumb hiro is more like it.


On August 24 2011 15:35 BrownBear wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK TOWN


On August 24 2011 15:41 Palmar wrote:
if you think this you're scum or dumb


On August 24 2011 18:07 Palmar wrote:
Every time I tell you idiots someone is town, you go ahead and lynch him.


On August 24 2011 19:21 supersoft wrote:
People like you ruined this game.


On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:
You're a joke.
You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough.


Unacceptable. Criticize the play, not the player. Criticizing the player will only make this game emotional, and scare people off. It's anti-town play, and it destroys the environment.

On that note, Palmar:

On August 26 2010 13:07 Ver wrote:
Keep the town on a need to know basis.

This is one of the most important 'principles' of good town play that is violated all too frequently in recent games:

People don't always need to know your role. People never need to know every single thought you have. Nobody needs to respond to every single thing said. Focus on what's important (refer back to the original 3 points). Posting more often means you are spending less time analyzing and rereading, which are two key parts that aren't done nearly enough, and you are making life harder for your fellow townies. If you look at most of the best town performances, these players have a tiny fraction of the posts and dominate the discussion with influence and quality, not quantity.


You post WAY more than you need to. It's not helpful to the town. You've got the mind to scumhunt, I know. You are usually pretty good on your reads too, but you trash the town environment because you post so much. You don't need quantity to convince people. [spoiler]You just need a professor badass picture.[/spolier]
Welcome to earth.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 24 2011 16:10 GMT
#1519
On August 25 2011 00:54 InserT_FreQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 11:26 nard wrote:
.. what a dumb hiro is more like it.


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 15:35 BrownBear wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK TOWN


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 15:41 Palmar wrote:
if you think this you're scum or dumb


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 18:07 Palmar wrote:
Every time I tell you idiots someone is town, you go ahead and lynch him.


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 19:21 supersoft wrote:
People like you ruined this game.


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:
You're a joke.
You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough.


Unacceptable. Criticize the play, not the player. Criticizing the player will only make this game emotional, and scare people off. It's anti-town play, and it destroys the environment.


My post was criticizing town play in general, not any specific player. Which was how everyone was reading it until you decided to post this. Don't try to pin that shit on me.
SUNSFANNED
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 24 2011 16:11 GMT
#1520
Yeah I know.

I'm generally active, but not like I've been this game. Thing is, I don't yet know how to convince an unresponsive town without PMs. This is the first time as town where I want to be listened to and get completely ignored. In all those games I've played recently I've had my way, and town has done very well for it.

For some reason, mafia influenced or not, this town is different than others. People here refuse to listen to reason, and lynch based on what, but not on how. The ridiculousness reached new heights when people started accusing me of being scum for the crime of being right.

I'll take a step back, I think I've made my thoughts pretty clear, I've built my cases and submitted my reads. The rest of you can do what you wish with them, I'm not posting unless necessary now.
Computer says mafia
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