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On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you.
Like I've explained before, I did not pay attention to the thread this weekend. I logged on and voted to make sure there was a lynch. I had no idea what the merits of the lynch was. It's difficult to judge what I would have done though, because when I started reading the thread I already knew Sevryn was green. I'd like to think that I would have tried to move the vote off of Sevryn, but I can't say.
I'm liking your OMGUS/Palmar impression too btw. Too bad you can't vote? Now try explaining the posts I quoted instead of attacking my intelligence?
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On August 24 2011 19:33 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you. Okay. I think this post convinced me lol. Come morning I'm voting you. That would be a pretty stupid move.
Well I'd be down to vote you too, cause your actions over the past day have definitely eroded my town opinion of you. I think you're scumbuddies with supersoft.
Both you and supersoft have attempted to gain towncred by landing on the right side of the voting both days. SS was more obvious about it but you've been spearheading these distraction efforts too. You BOTH are claiming we're all too dumb etc etc to see that hiro/sev were town when in reality hiro played like absolute trash and Sevryn's mistakes made him seem like a pretty good target day 1 too. Yeah, we were ultimately wrong in our assessments, but I stand by the reasoning. You can filter my posts and go back and see my analysis of hiro, for example.
Honestly though, you and supersoft jumped several levels all at once in scumminess, ESPECIALLY in that last 2 hours vote switch you guys attempted.
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On August 24 2011 19:33 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you. Okay. I think this post convinced me lol. Come morning I'm voting you. That would be a pretty stupid move.
I don't care. I lost every interest in this game. I am one of the few townplayers that puts some thinking and effort in this game, I had the right feeling about severyn and hiro and noone wanted to hear my arguments.
I presented alternative lynchtargets two times in a row. I provided reasonable explanations for my decisions.
Why on earth should I do all that if I were scum. This town is in a mess, you guys revengevote for former votes on you; you guys don't read the thread; you guys lie about your roles (Hi DB).
You know how I would play as scum? Read nards posts. I would do exactly that. Sit back and wait, summarize what happens and vote for the poor townie at the end of the day. That's what I would do.
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You put some thinking/effort into the game?
If you're so much smarter than us why don't you share your brilliant analysis with the town every once in a while?
Oh right, cause you're scum and you don't actually vote based on evidence...just preknowledge.
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On August 24 2011 19:38 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you. Like I've explained before, I did not pay attention to the thread this weekend. I logged on and voted to make sure there was a lynch. I had no idea what the merits of the lynch was. It's difficult to judge what I would have done though, because when I started reading the thread I already knew Sevryn was green. I'd like to think that I would have tried to move the vote off of Sevryn, but I can't say. I'm liking your OMGUS/Palmar impression too btw. Too bad you can't vote? Now try explaining the posts I quoted instead of attacking my intelligence?
no. NO. You can't be serious! You weren't there and didn't read the thread, but you judge me based on my last two or three posts? Ragepost incoming. I better quit TL.net now, because I might not be allowed to ever visit this site again if I stay now.
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On August 24 2011 19:38 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:33 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you. Okay. I think this post convinced me lol. Come morning I'm voting you. That would be a pretty stupid move. Well I'd be down to vote you too, cause your actions over the past day have definitely eroded my town opinion of you. I think you're scumbuddies with supersoft. Both you and supersoft have attempted to gain towncred by landing on the right side of the voting both days. SS was more obvious about it but you've been spearheading these distraction efforts too. You BOTH are claiming we're all too dumb etc etc to see that hiro/sev were town when in reality hiro played like absolute trash and Sevryn's mistakes made him seem like a pretty good target day 1 too. Yeah, we were ultimately wrong in our assessments, but I stand by the reasoning. You can filter my posts and go back and see my analysis of hiro, for example. Honestly though, you and supersoft jumped several levels all at once in scumminess, ESPECIALLY in that last 2 hours vote switch you guys attempted.
I'm scum because I'm right, lol
I'm not saying town is stupid, I'm saying it's my own fault for not explaining my arguments in a good enough manner to prevent town from doing stupid shit.
Basically, at this point you're either town hiding the fact that you're not objectively reading the thread behind claiming hiro and sevryn are bad, or you're scum trying to do look like you're doing exactly that.
I have been leaning town on you for a while, I simply think your reasons were wrong. Being wrong is fine, being okay with being wrong is good town play, but we also need to be objective instead of emotional. Read the entire thing again with the knowledge you have now. You should find things a bit more clear.
I'm not giving up, and at some point people will listen.
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@Lucidity, are you going to explain to me how believing the Vet claim was bad judgement, cause I'm waiting?
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On August 24 2011 19:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
You put some thinking/effort into the game?
If you're so much smarter than us why don't you share your brilliant analysis with the town every once in a while?
Oh right, cause you're scum and you don't actually vote based on evidence...just preknowledge.
hahahahaha, I will remind you of this post at the end of the game.
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On August 24 2011 19:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:33 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you. Okay. I think this post convinced me lol. Come morning I'm voting you. That would be a pretty stupid move. Well I'd be down to vote you too, cause your actions over the past day have definitely eroded my town opinion of you. I think you're scumbuddies with supersoft. Both you and supersoft have attempted to gain towncred by landing on the right side of the voting both days. SS was more obvious about it but you've been spearheading these distraction efforts too. You BOTH are claiming we're all too dumb etc etc to see that hiro/sev were town when in reality hiro played like absolute trash and Sevryn's mistakes made him seem like a pretty good target day 1 too. Yeah, we were ultimately wrong in our assessments, but I stand by the reasoning. You can filter my posts and go back and see my analysis of hiro, for example. Honestly though, you and supersoft jumped several levels all at once in scumminess, ESPECIALLY in that last 2 hours vote switch you guys attempted. I'm scum because I'm right, lol I'm not saying town is stupid, I'm saying it's my own fault for not explaining my arguments in a good enough manner to prevent town from doing stupid shit. Basically, at this point you're either town hiding the fact that you're not objectively reading the thread behind claiming hiro and sevryn are bad, or you're scum trying to do look like you're doing exactly that. I have been leaning town on you for a while, I simply think your reasons were wrong. Being wrong is fine, being okay with being wrong is good town play, but we also need to be objective instead of emotional. Read the entire thing again with the knowledge you have now. You should find things a bit more clear. I'm not giving up, and at some point people will listen.
:-( you're right. We can't blame them if they don't understand us... You're right, it's up to us to convince them.
I just overestimated them, and I am mad at myself for letting a situation like this happen.
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On August 24 2011 19:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:33 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you. Okay. I think this post convinced me lol. Come morning I'm voting you. That would be a pretty stupid move. Well I'd be down to vote you too, cause your actions over the past day have definitely eroded my town opinion of you. I think you're scumbuddies with supersoft. Both you and supersoft have attempted to gain towncred by landing on the right side of the voting both days. SS was more obvious about it but you've been spearheading these distraction efforts too. You BOTH are claiming we're all too dumb etc etc to see that hiro/sev were town when in reality hiro played like absolute trash and Sevryn's mistakes made him seem like a pretty good target day 1 too. Yeah, we were ultimately wrong in our assessments, but I stand by the reasoning. You can filter my posts and go back and see my analysis of hiro, for example. Honestly though, you and supersoft jumped several levels all at once in scumminess, ESPECIALLY in that last 2 hours vote switch you guys attempted. I'm scum because I'm right, lol I'm not saying town is stupid, I'm saying it's my own fault for not explaining my arguments in a good enough manner to prevent town from doing stupid shit. Basically, at this point you're either town hiding the fact that you're not objectively reading the thread behind claiming hiro and sevryn are bad, or you're scum trying to do look like you're doing exactly that. I have been leaning town on you for a while, I simply think your reasons were wrong. Being wrong is fine, being okay with being wrong is good town play, but we also need to be objective instead of emotional. Read the entire thing again with the knowledge you have now. You should find things a bit more clear. I'm not giving up, and at some point people will listen.
You're not scum because you're right.
You're scum because you were right when no one else was.
There's a big difference. Care to explain why, if you knew all along hiro was town, you didn't reason me and others out of voting him? Care to explain why you would pick a lurking lynch target in the last 2 hours of the day to focus your attention on, when we already had 3 candidates to lynch, ALL with decent analysis on them? Care to explain why you would seemingly just throw out 20+ hours of information and work just to muck up the last 2 hours with a vote on chaos13 (lol) instead of Mig or hiro? We could've used that time to discuss, instead we lost it all scrambling to try and get a vote on an actual lynch candidate most of us had spent hours analyzing.
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On August 24 2011 19:45 Palmar wrote:
@Lucidity, are you going to explain to me how believing the Vet claim was bad judgement, cause I'm waiting?
LOL
You believed the vet claim, of all things. Hiro's logic was so convoluted I have no idea how anyone could've believed he actually was a vet. He didn't even provide flavotext for it.
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On August 24 2011 19:44 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:38 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you. Like I've explained before, I did not pay attention to the thread this weekend. I logged on and voted to make sure there was a lynch. I had no idea what the merits of the lynch was. It's difficult to judge what I would have done though, because when I started reading the thread I already knew Sevryn was green. I'd like to think that I would have tried to move the vote off of Sevryn, but I can't say. I'm liking your OMGUS/Palmar impression too btw. Too bad you can't vote? Now try explaining the posts I quoted instead of attacking my intelligence? no. NO. You can't be serious! You weren't there and didn't read the thread, but you judge me based on my last two or three posts? Ragepost incoming. I better quit TL.net now, because I might not be allowed to ever visit this site again if I stay now.
Yes I was afk the weekend. I have since read every post in this thread. Why would you rage? Now answer my question about the posts I quoted. O M G.
On August 24 2011 19:45 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
You put some thinking/effort into the game?
If you're so much smarter than us why don't you share your brilliant analysis with the town every once in a while?
Oh right, cause you're scum and you don't actually vote based on evidence...just preknowledge. hahahahaha, I will remind you of this post at the end of the game.
He's right you know. You keep talking about how you've been right, but you don't explain yourself. All we have is this:
On August 24 2011 05:30 supersoft wrote:
i believe hero is innocent and mafia is superhappy because they save xtfftc today...
at least i am schocked how fast that hiro bandwagon started out of the nowhere...
That's ridiculous. After hiro fake claims and admits that he fake claimed you're still convinced he's a townie. Why? EXPLAIN THE TWO POSTS I QUOTED O M G!
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On August 24 2011 19:49 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:44 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:33 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you. Okay. I think this post convinced me lol. Come morning I'm voting you. That would be a pretty stupid move. Well I'd be down to vote you too, cause your actions over the past day have definitely eroded my town opinion of you. I think you're scumbuddies with supersoft. Both you and supersoft have attempted to gain towncred by landing on the right side of the voting both days. SS was more obvious about it but you've been spearheading these distraction efforts too. You BOTH are claiming we're all too dumb etc etc to see that hiro/sev were town when in reality hiro played like absolute trash and Sevryn's mistakes made him seem like a pretty good target day 1 too. Yeah, we were ultimately wrong in our assessments, but I stand by the reasoning. You can filter my posts and go back and see my analysis of hiro, for example. Honestly though, you and supersoft jumped several levels all at once in scumminess, ESPECIALLY in that last 2 hours vote switch you guys attempted. I'm scum because I'm right, lol I'm not saying town is stupid, I'm saying it's my own fault for not explaining my arguments in a good enough manner to prevent town from doing stupid shit. Basically, at this point you're either town hiding the fact that you're not objectively reading the thread behind claiming hiro and sevryn are bad, or you're scum trying to do look like you're doing exactly that. I have been leaning town on you for a while, I simply think your reasons were wrong. Being wrong is fine, being okay with being wrong is good town play, but we also need to be objective instead of emotional. Read the entire thing again with the knowledge you have now. You should find things a bit more clear. I'm not giving up, and at some point people will listen. :-( you're right. We can't blame them if they don't understand us... You're right, it's up to us to convince them. I just overestimated them, and I am mad at myself for letting a situation like this happen.
Why are you copying Palmar so hard?
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On August 24 2011 19:51 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:44 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:33 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 24 2011 19:28 supersoft wrote:On August 24 2011 19:23 Lucidity wrote:On August 24 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:On August 24 2011 19:01 Lucidity wrote:
Can't believe he was green though -.- yah, it's because you don't think, or you're scum. And for some reason no one listens to a word I say. You believed hiro's Vet claim. I don't think your judgment this game is that great. Trying to introduce chaos13 as the new lynch candidate 2 hours before deadline was also a blunder. If anyone is not thinking, it is you. Based on the previous game I played with you I expected more from you... That's worrying me. You're a joke. If you expect something from palmar, you have to give him the chance to prove himself. Consequently you have to vote for his targets. You were wrong two times now. How can you claim that palmars judgement isn't that great, while your judgement isn't existing. One additional word to your accusations towards me: You didn't see that hiro was green, because you're just not smart enough. This is nothing personal or whatever, but if you don't see that the wagon on hero came out of the nowhere and builded up exceptionally fast, with noone reasoning his decision, I can't help you. Okay. I think this post convinced me lol. Come morning I'm voting you. That would be a pretty stupid move. Well I'd be down to vote you too, cause your actions over the past day have definitely eroded my town opinion of you. I think you're scumbuddies with supersoft. Both you and supersoft have attempted to gain towncred by landing on the right side of the voting both days. SS was more obvious about it but you've been spearheading these distraction efforts too. You BOTH are claiming we're all too dumb etc etc to see that hiro/sev were town when in reality hiro played like absolute trash and Sevryn's mistakes made him seem like a pretty good target day 1 too. Yeah, we were ultimately wrong in our assessments, but I stand by the reasoning. You can filter my posts and go back and see my analysis of hiro, for example. Honestly though, you and supersoft jumped several levels all at once in scumminess, ESPECIALLY in that last 2 hours vote switch you guys attempted. I'm scum because I'm right, lol I'm not saying town is stupid, I'm saying it's my own fault for not explaining my arguments in a good enough manner to prevent town from doing stupid shit. Basically, at this point you're either town hiding the fact that you're not objectively reading the thread behind claiming hiro and sevryn are bad, or you're scum trying to do look like you're doing exactly that. I have been leaning town on you for a while, I simply think your reasons were wrong. Being wrong is fine, being okay with being wrong is good town play, but we also need to be objective instead of emotional. Read the entire thing again with the knowledge you have now. You should find things a bit more clear. I'm not giving up, and at some point people will listen. You're not scum because you're right. You're scum because you were right when no one else was.There's a big difference. Care to explain why, if you knew all along hiro was town, you didn't reason me and others out of voting him? Care to explain why you would pick a lurking lynch target in the last 2 hours of the day to focus your attention on, when we already had 3 candidates to lynch, ALL with decent analysis on them? Care to explain why you would seemingly just throw out 20+ hours of information and work just to muck up the last 2 hours with a vote on chaos13 (lol) instead of Mig or hiro? We could've used that time to discuss, instead we lost it all scrambling to try and get a vote on an actual lynch candidate most of us had spent hours analyzing.
I'll break it down for you:
Care to explain why, if you knew all along hiro was town, you didn't reason me and others out of voting him?
I did, I tried to get the lynch away from him, here's one of the posts. I already said multiple times that knowing Hiro Protagonist this was not the way he'd ever play as scum. This is based on meta, so it's harder to explain, and in turn for you to understand.
Read my posting history, I state multiple times that I don't think hiro can be scum.
Care to explain why you would pick a lurking lynch target in the last 2 hours of the day to focus your attention on, when we already had 3 candidates to lynch, ALL with decent analysis on them?
We had two candidates, Mig and Hiro. xtf wasn't a serious contender for that lynch, or I'd probably in the end have liked him better than the other two. I already said multiple times that I did not have the time to build the case, and it simply did not occur to me to try the switch until 2 hours before the lynch.
I don't know why people keep fixating on that, because it's not like that thing was in any way detrimental to town.
Main reason I tried it is because I don't believe either candidate is scum.
Care to explain why you would seemingly just throw out 20+ hours of information and work just to muck up the last 2 hours with a vote on chaos13 (lol) instead of Mig or hiro? We could've used that time to discuss, instead we lost it all scrambling to try and get a vote on an actual lynch candidate most of us had spent hours analyzing.
What did you want to discuss, which townie to lynch? I'm not here to make sure everything goes to plan, I'm here to find and kill scum. How does it matter if you spend hours analyzing it when it's wrong? I said multiple times that being wrong is okay, it's perfectly fine. But once you realize you were wrong, you need to step back and re-read the thread.
Every time a townie gets lynched, you need to re-read the thread, instead of lynching the next player who must be scum because he wasn't wrong like you.
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On August 24 2011 19:53 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:45 Palmar wrote:
@Lucidity, are you going to explain to me how believing the Vet claim was bad judgement, cause I'm waiting? LOL You believed the vet claim, of all things. Hiro's logic was so convoluted I have no idea how anyone could've believed he actually was a vet. He didn't even provide flavotext for it.
He could have claimed a town-aligned planar dragon and I'd have believed him.
why?
Because I believed him to be town aligned, and I had no idea what his role was.
I can't believe people are actually giving me shit for only being able to deduce his alignment, not his role.
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On August 24 2011 19:23 Palmar wrote:
If we have the chance, I'd suggest to our vigilantes to focus on shooting active people tonight. The reason for this is that we severely lack information, so instead of shooting the scummiest lurkers like vigis usually should do, I'd ask you to shoot scummy active people.
Vigilantes, whatever you do, do not listen to this. Unless you're an amazing scumhunter (there's a few of you out there, so if you're one of them feel free) you are more likely to hit town. Then you have not only eliminated a townie, you have eliminated an actively contributing townie, which is BAD.
If you feel compelled to shoot, hit lurkers. Even better, hit a scummy lurker.
DT's check Palmar. Hell, vig him. He's still stirring this game up into an anti-town environment, so even if he's town it would be of more use than hitting a lurker.
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On August 24 2011 20:56 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 19:23 Palmar wrote:
If we have the chance, I'd suggest to our vigilantes to focus on shooting active people tonight. The reason for this is that we severely lack information, so instead of shooting the scummiest lurkers like vigis usually should do, I'd ask you to shoot scummy active people.
Vigilantes, whatever you do, do not listen to this. Unless you're an amazing scumhunter (there's a few of you out there, so if you're one of them feel free) you are more likely to hit town. Then you have not only eliminated a townie, you have eliminated an actively contributing townie, which is BAD. If you feel compelled to shoot, hit lurkers. Even better, hit a scummy lurker. DT's check Palmar. Hell, vig him. He's still stirring this game up into an anti-town environment, so even if he's town it would be of more use than hitting a lurker.
shut up scum.
Or if you're town... you're amazingly bad.
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On August 24 2011 21:09 Palmar wrote:
shut up scum.
Or if you're town... you're amazingly bad.
It's gonna feel so good to lynch you and flip mafia after everyone thought I was wrong for so long. You have no idea how glad I am that people are finally starting to realize how scummy you are and how much you've disrupted this town. How does the post I quoted help anyone out in any way?
1) You're disrespectful.
2) Useless fucking spam.
If I were host I would have modkilled you already for your inability to heed all the spam warnings that have gone out. Shape up your attitude or don't play.
On August 24 2011 08:57 Palmar wrote:The second post I'm going to look specifically at from chaos comes in wake of the DB mess on day 2. He does have some questionable content over the day, just read it up and think about it. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 21:15 chaos13 wrote:On August 23 2011 20:58 DropBear wrote:
Hell if I can get people to lynch supersoft instead I'd be stoked but Mig is red as hell based on supersoft's actions. This post is the reason I'm inclined not to believe you. I can't see a genuine DT with a red check feeling like they will have trouble getting their red check lynched. This is a guilty mindset. The order of events I would like to see happen right now 1. Lynch DB 2. If blue flip, vig supersoft 3. Suddenly, information - lynch mig. Going back to read all of DropBear's posts before I move my vote to him. Am I still the only one who thinks Foolish is scum? Check this post out On August 23 2011 12:38 Foolishness wrote:
I spent last night rereading through all of chaoser's past games and all of brownbear's past games. It should be fairly obvious why I did this. I will defend chaoser to the grave if I have to, he's most certainly town. I've never seen a townie be so adamant about defending their town read before. Regardless, I'll drop him for today and focus on what's relevant. This plan he's giving us is basically the perfect way to continue as mafia. He already knows both supersoft and dropbear won't flip scum, so hell, let's suggest we kill them both! This is of course based on the assumption they aren't scum, but we need to work with something. I think chaos 13 is our best lynch today ##Vote Chaos13
Anyone who has read the thread knows that this is quoted way out of context. Go back to where you found this post, then scroll down a little ways and tell me what happened. I'm not going to do it for you, I want you to post back with the results so the whole town can see exactly how you're trying to set me up here. If you fail to do so you are mafia, because you have no interest in actually backing up your position with evidence.
On August 24 2011 09:15 Mig wrote:
My main argument against chaos is just that he used very poor logic to attack palmar early on. Chaos is good enough he should have been able to see how palmar's tunneling had benefited the town. Yet instead he tried to turn it around to discredit and attack palmar. It's out of character for him.
People are now beginning to realize how I'm right. Mig, I'm gonna use the same argument against you; you're way better than this.
On August 24 2011 08:52 Jackal58 wrote:Actually fuck it. I was saving this for the end of the night phase but Chaos has not called me scummy this game. The only other times he has done this is because he was on the scum team. I know it sounds lame but he's so damn consistent at it it's funny. I have been watching to see if he chose one of the three main targets over the others but his votes are off in the toolies. Ya I'll lynch Chaos. But I do know he is at work. 
Oh hai Jackal.
Interesting how you suddenly jump on me once there's already a bit of a bandwagon forming. You, Mig, and Palmar just come up with this idea to see how much more mayhem you can cause?
There, was that a good enough accusation for you? It was genuine. I had no idea of your alignment until now because you hadn't posted enough for me to actually recognize that you were even playing this game.
My thoughts on scum so far
1. Palmar
2. Mig
Suspect
-Jackal58
-Nard
-Vain
-chaoser
-Kurumi
Previous suspects that I have since dropped and think are probably town
-supersoft
-wherebugsgo
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yeah, probably not bad, just scum
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from now on, you don't exist chaos13. Go talk to visceraeyes. He's town though, you not so much.
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