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On November 20 2011 04:21 Coagulation wrote:
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##vote: lemonwalrus
##vote: BumatLarge
should be self explanatory.
Why don't you spell it out for us?
In other news:
Someone asked me and a bunch of others about prplhz, I've been slowly finding him more and more scummy as the game has progressed. Almost all of my early scum reads are either dead townies or more or less confirmed townies in my eyes though, so I guess take that for what it is worth. Right now I see him as probably one of the best lynch targets. I could also see decent cases for nisani and for bum, although I would not be comfortable lynching bum right now.
I am inclined to believe it, and am not trying to heap suspicions on either of them, but just want to know if I'm looking at it correctly:
the hyshes-Drazerk mason claim MUST be one of the following:
1. They are both town and telling the truth.
2. They are both scum and this is the riskiest thing ever.
If those two options are the only ones, I believe them for obvious reasons.
I'm not saying I suspect him now, but I am now going over chaoser's posts from the beginning of the game. I feel that I sheeped to him on day 1 because I had strong town feelings about him, but now with new information that has come to light I feel that may have been a mistake.
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drazerk your not "confirmed" town based on a claim in thread.
for now its highly probably your claim is true but not confirmed. theres a huge difference.
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So I'm untrustworthy, yet if you had trusted me then you wouldn't have hammered a townie, thus I must be scum? Or what kind of logic are we using here?
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and if drazek is gonna run around going "im confirmed town now anyone that doesn't believe me is scum" than hes an idiot.
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prpl is making more sense than some of the other players in this game right now. He's right about Drazerk not being mod-confirmed until he flips, for example.
I'll be back later with more thoughts, I'll try to organize them all in one post.
It seems that Coag would like to focus on bum and lemon. Coag can you explain these votes? I wonder if your reasoning for voting bum is the same reasoning I find him suspicious. Likewise with lemon, actually, though lemon is a little further down my list (not far though)
I would obviously like to focus on nisani and chaoser today.
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On November 20 2011 04:33 prplhz wrote:
So I'm untrustworthy, yet if you had trusted me then you wouldn't have hammered a townie, thus I must be scum? Or what kind of logic are we using here?
No, the logic that we are using is that you tried to save sinani ineffectivly on purpose, thusly appearing town because you "defended" a townie, while still getting him lynched.
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On November 20 2011 04:03 Drazerk wrote:
##unvote: Lanaia
Main scum targets for today are Nisani and prplhz
So I take it you think they are both town?
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I never said that I defended sinani206, I honestly don't care that you killed him 'cause he would have been useless anyway, I just had a slight townie feeling about him because I thought he was trying harder than he was in PYP:I where he was scum. And there is no reason to lynch a townie, though with sinani206 there's not much reason to not lynch him either.
If you would rather listen to "stop voting i think he's town" than "STOP VOTING" then what the hell.
I see your logic, but I don't think that's what I did. I wrote my opinion, if you don't care about it because it's in caps then that's your fault. My statements were not hard to read at all and I made my opinion pretty clear.
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Lemonwalrus
I've been keeping my eye on your posts ever since you voted me, and it would make sense if you were scum. You are incredibly wishy-washy, yet you focus only on topics that have already been discussed. Yet you do have a firm opinion on certain things like the Kenpachi/Lanaia thing, after kenpachi had garnered some weight, I thought your reasoning was very good. Yet you show a complete lack of commitment in every area where town could swing one way or the other.
On November 17 2011 07:22 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 07:15 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 07:14 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 17 2011 07:00 GreYMisT wrote:On November 17 2011 06:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.
##Vote Kenpachi That's why I only voted Lanaia, figure Lanaia flips scum, Kenpachi auto-lynch day 2, Lanaia flips town, then back to the drawing board. I felt that Lanaia was the best choice since she is either a scum or a town that used a powerful role in what I consider to be an untownly fashion, what is your reasoning for Kenpachi instead? Lemon, what do you think of risk's response? On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.
##Vote Kenpachi perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him? If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum. If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy. If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment. If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum. I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment. Im starting to agree with him a bit, but in my eyes neither kenpachi or lanaia is off the hook just yet. I don't agree with risk's assessment and no longer agree with my original assessment because I can't see any scum team doing something this risky (or dumb, depending on how you want to look at it) on day 1. However, since Kenpachi has now adopted the "lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality he is either scum or a townie that is no longer playing to win. Either way I don't want him to still be here for day 2. ##Vote: KenpachiI know that Kenpachi is capable of a lot, but if he can't offer simple explanations for what he considers to be obvious things then what is the point? oh oh vote for me too! I fall under that category! "lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality I've got a town read on you that I can't quite explain and am holding on to hope that you will stop being butt-hurt and start being useful in the near future, or that all of your play so far has been part of some grand plan that will help town in some way, so I'll hold my vote off of you for now. At least this way when you do get yourself lynched (which you seem to be doing quite efficiently) and flip green I'll be able to congratulate myself or something.
I find this quite baffling that this should provoke you in the direction to defend chaoser and attack palmar, but you take a stand on this matter later, so it isn't wishy-washy if you form an opinion on it later.
On November 17 2011 09:54 Lemonwalrus wrote:
##Unvote: Lanaia
She made a mistake, but I don't think it was a scum mistake. And besides, I'd like to see Kenpachi's flip before we decide what to do with her.
##Vote: Palmar
He has been pushing a moronic case against chaoser since the beginning and most of you are eating it up. When the Lanaia/kenpachi thing came up, he threw his vote their way haphazardly, my guess because they are both town (although I still have some hope that KP was scum) and he just wants to make more town lynches day 1. All the while he has been pushing this chaoser lynch as a sure thing. If we lynch chaoser and he flips green or blue, I want palmar dead the next day for sure. He wants chaoser dead because as he said himself chaoser is a good player for town. He has built a case against him on LAL so he can hide behind policy when he is proven wrong about chaoser when chaoser flips.
##Vote: bumatlarge
Be the batman that this steamship deserves.
Here was the break from your wishy-washiness. Seeing you take your vote off lanaia, put your vote on palmar, and then vote me, made me think you actually have some backbone. FoS is retarded this game, just vote people you FoS instead.
On November 20 2011 04:32 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 04:21 Coagulation wrote:
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##vote: lemonwalrus
##vote: BumatLarge
should be self explanatory. Why don't you spell it out for us? In other news: Someone asked me and a bunch of others about prplhz, I've been slowly finding him more and more scummy as the game has progressed. Almost all of my early scum reads are either dead townies or more or less confirmed townies in my eyes though, so I guess take that for what it is worth. Right now I see him as probably one of the best lynch targets. I could also see decent cases for nisani and for bum, although I would not be comfortable lynching bum right now. I am inclined to believe it, and am not trying to heap suspicions on either of them, but just want to know if I'm looking at it correctly: the hyshes-Drazerk mason claim MUST be one of the following: 1. They are both town and telling the truth. 2. They are both scum and this is the riskiest thing ever. If those two options are the only ones, I believe them for obvious reasons. I'm not saying I suspect him now, but I am now going over chaoser's posts from the beginning of the game. I feel that I sheeped to him on day 1 because I had strong town feelings about him, but now with new information that has come to light I feel that may have been a mistake.
It's certain paragraphs like the prplhz one that makes me cringe. I don't see you do it that often, but whenever you get on to another topic, you kinda slouch your way into it, and things like that set off warning bells for me. "Seeing decent cases" is inconsequential here. It's either there is a case or there isn't.
I've decided LW isn't scum, but if palmar is town and chaoser is scum, he'll be there first person I come back to.
##Vote: prplhz
I think I typo'd in my first post. Honestly, I wouldn't mind drazerk flipping, because I have no read on hyshes one way or another. I'm not going to give them the credit of being that clever as scum, but if my scum-buddy was going down in flames and was feeling especially clever that day, I could see the mason claim. But hyshes, a more unnotcable poster who no one has voted (I think) doing it? I don't see it.
##Unvote: Drazerk
Back to le drawing board.
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The phrase "guys I don't think sinani is scum, here is why..." sounds a lot more rational and thought out than STOP VOTING. All caps implies that you have to add emphasis to your wrods because they lack depth/meaning. I wouldn't be surprised if more people feel the same. Also, you didn't say "stop voting", you said "less on sinani" which forumite pointed out earlier does not adequately get you point across.
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On November 20 2011 05:01 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 04:03 Drazerk wrote:
##unvote: Lanaia
Main scum targets for today are Nisani and prplhz So I take it you think they are both town?
Main targets I think are scum today*
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On November 20 2011 05:16 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 05:01 GreYMisT wrote:On November 20 2011 04:03 Drazerk wrote:
##unvote: Lanaia
Main scum targets for today are Nisani and prplhz So I take it you think they are both town? Main targets I think are scum today*
Ah ok, that makes a lot more sense.
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As for why I even decided to go with caps in the first place, I thought townies would still read it while scum would just conveniently ignore it or maybe even use it against me. Townies read shit, scum just jump on anything that looks somewhat odd.
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... apparently that little plan didn't work out when no one decided to listen to me and everybody decided to jump on me even though I actually made sense all the way through.
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On November 19 2011 22:02 prplhz wrote:
What do people think about Tyrran? I notice that the guy actually voted for both lurkers yesterday even though he said he'd only advocate the lynch of one lurker, but then again he apparently thought sinani206 was scum in spite of people's warnings. Cyber_Cheese, I usually have a good read on you, I thought you were scum in both LotR and PYP:I, but in this game it's been harder. What do you think about Tyrran?
I looked into his filter last night, and I feel quite inclined not to lynch him at this point in the game, nor the foreseeable future. I would need a much bigger reason to pursue him as a lynch candidate for today than 'he was on both lynches'.
On November 20 2011 05:06 prplhz wrote:
I never said that I defended sinani206, I honestly don't care that you killed him 'cause he would have been useless anyway, I just had a slight townie feeling about him because I thought he was trying harder than he was in PYP:I where he was scum. And there is no reason to lynch a townie, though with sinani206 there's not much reason to not lynch him either. If you would rather listen to "stop voting i think he's town" than "STOP VOTING" then what the hell. I see your logic, but I don't think that's what I did. I wrote my opinion, if you don't care about it because it's in caps then that's your fault. My statements were not hard to read at all and I made my opinion pretty clear.
You had a town read on Sinani, yet your more focused on making that publicly known than actually saving Sinani?
On November 20 2011 05:39 prplhz wrote:
As for why I even decided to go with caps in the first place, I thought townies would still read it while scum would just conveniently ignore it or maybe even use it against me. Townies read shit, scum just jump on anything that looks somewhat odd.
So your argument boils down to 'Scum don't read the thread. Townies always read the thread. They should have listened because I posted without any reasoning.' correct?
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On November 20 2011 05:39 prplhz wrote:
As for why I even decided to go with caps in the first place, I thought townies would still read it while scum would just conveniently ignore it or maybe even use it against me. Townies read shit, scum just jump on anything that looks somewhat odd.
that's moronic, when you act like an idiot everyone ignores you.
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This is fun.
##Unvote: Drazerk
At least now I can focus on more important people, like WBG and Palmar. However I think I focus on Palmar today.
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Writing in caps isn't acting like an idiot by default. Am I the only one who actually reads the thread? I've seen a ton of people saying "okay I'm ignoring you because you're a moron" to one another but I always thought it was a joke. You read the fucking thread and don't discard people's opinion before reading just because you think they are moronic. Where is that Incognito post where he says this pretty clearly? It's been quoted like 10 times since I joined these forums.
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On November 20 2011 06:46 Nisani201 wrote:
This is fun.
##Unvote: Drazerk
At least now I can focus on more important people, like WBG and Palmar. However I think I focus on Palmar today.
Palmar is probably town
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Oh I nearly forgot. I don't necessarily believe it, but it's a long shot the mason claim isn't true.
##Unvote: Drazerk
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