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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 19 2012 20:04 GMT
#1401
deconduo who did you PM check night 1?
wat
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 19 2012 20:15 GMT
#1402
@deconduo Can you give us all of your PMs with Mr. Wiggles?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 19 2012 20:30 GMT
#1403
That power seems infinitely more useful for scum then town. I don't really see the point of town having a role like that.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 19 2012 20:39 GMT
#1404
actually i find it very useful for town. It can help track down the traitor, and unless scum knew that role existed they have no reason to PM each other... so it can help clear some people
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 19 2012 20:41 GMT
#1405
On March 20 2012 03:56 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 03:43 sandroba wrote:
So did decon claim anything useful about his powers so far? There was supposed to be 2 kills ytd right? I don't think scum would trade 1 kill for a .5 power so something is off.

It's not far fetched to think that medic/jailer protected and scum hit Palmar now is it? And then when he didn't die they just had Caller shoot him in the face.

deconduo claimed to have checked Palmar night2 for this result. I don't think he claimed anything for night1.

Overall, deconduo is looking really bad and he was also on Palmar's shortlist.

@Mr. Wiggles What did you talk to Palmar about?

I didn't talk to him about anything, as he never tried to establish any contact besides asking for my role. I sent a few pokes at him, but he never showed interest in talking back. It's one of the reason I thought he could be scum. Pandain originally PMed me to send me love notes and claim scum.
From: Pandain [ 4313 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: ♥ u
Date: 3/13/12 07:03
yeah i just don't have the time to adequetelyi devote to this the time it deserves
Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
<3

I read you're being replaced, though.

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Pandain:
this is why i pm you lol
so i can share with you my love

To: Pandain [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: hi i pm you
Date: 3/12/12 09:25
Yeah, and I bet you thought you were going to get away with it too. At first, I was puzzled, maybe even a little lost. I wasn't sure what to make of you, but as soon as you claimed scum to me, things started to become clearer. It all made sense! You said you were scum, so in no time at all, I was able to deduce once and for all... that you were scum. CASE CLOSED. No scum escape, when Mr. Wiggles is on the case!

Original Message From Pandain:
fuck

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
=O Well I guess I'll have to lynch you!

Original Message From Pandain:
yes

Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
Ok, cool. You scum?

Original Message From Pandain:
I want to pm people who I like/have fun conversations with.

Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
Well, I hope you feel better soon, then. Why'd you decide to PM me, if you haven't really read through the thread?

Original Message From Pandain:
havne't read everything yet(feel sick).


Original Message From Mr. Wiggles:
Hi! What do you think of the game, so far?

Original Message From Pandain:
hihi


Decon claimed that he checked me night 1, and claimed his results to me in PM. He knew all the people who had PMed me, and who I had PMed. Unless all those people were scum, or spread the word around, there's no way he would have known that, so his role is confirmed.
you gotta dance
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1406
On March 20 2012 05:15 prplhz wrote:
@deconduo Can you give us all of your PMs with Mr. Wiggles?


Nope. I don't consider him scum right now, so it would serve no purpose.

My first check was on Wiggles, gave this result:

Mr. Wiggles chose to PM nobody.
EchelonTee , Palmar, deconduo, and layabout have chosen to PM Mr. Wiggles.


This is already in the spreadsheet.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 19 2012 21:12 GMT
#1407
Jaybundrage I've been pushing Caller SINCE HIS FIRST POST.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
March 19 2012 21:17 GMT
#1408
I think the PM Detective could be a benefit to both mafia and town factions. As a town player, it could give insight in to who is PMing who (IE: if a strong player is PMing a weaker player) and try to snag the traitor (maybe, could be harder). As for mafia, it could be easy to just see who is connecting with who and killing town circles. There doesn't seem to be a major positive over negative in either regard.

I believe Deconduo is town. It would make sense why he was laying slightly low in the beginning (to gain information) and then has since picked up his posting cap after he claimed and revealed what he knew.

I think Bill Murray should be shot by a Vig. I don't think wasting a lynch on him would be beneficial, as the only major case against him is that he has been lurking hardcore, contributed shite to town...I mean, you could summerize the entire case against him by saying "go look at his filter."

However, my gut still tells me we should lynch Katina. My gut also said to lynch RoL near the end of Storm, and that turned out to be right, so i'm not second guessing on this one.

I'll be voting Katina in the AM.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
March 19 2012 21:21 GMT
#1409
On March 20 2012 06:12 Bill Murray wrote:
Jaybundrage I've been pushing Caller SINCE HIS FIRST POST.


So sure of you're read on caller, you decided to vote for me to be lynched on the first day, eh?

Bill's filter from the voting thread.

On March 11 2012 19:07 Bill Murray wrote:
##vote gumshoe



On March 12 2012 14:59 Bill Murray wrote:
##unvote gumshoe
##vote caller



On March 12 2012 15:36 Bill Murray wrote:
##unvote caller
##Vote Jitsu


Sounds more like you are trying to gain Town Cred by saying you were suspicious then actually pushing the fact that he was scum, since you ended up voting for me.

I think BM would be a decent enough kill as well.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 19 2012 22:14 GMT
#1410
Bill Murray is an aggressive player who likes to fuck around in PMs or what not. His silence this whole game suggests he's blue, not scum imo. He was like this in AC.

Let's go after the scum with substance, first. If BM is scum he will expose himself in due time. Lynch jaybrundage/deconduo/katina in no particular order. PM detective is a role that benefits scum more than town imo. Scum use the power after someone says "a DT claimed to me" or something like that for blue snipes.
RIP Aaliyah
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#1411
On March 20 2012 07:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Bill Murray is an aggressive player who likes to fuck around in PMs or what not. His silence this whole game suggests he's blue, not scum imo. He was like this in AC.

Let's go after the scum with substance, first. If BM is scum he will expose himself in due time. Lynch jaybrundage/deconduo/katina in no particular order. PM detective is a role that benefits scum more than town imo. Scum use the power after someone says "a DT claimed to me" or something like that for blue snipes.

Why do you think Decon is scum, besides his role?
you gotta dance
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 19 2012 23:18 GMT
#1412
We could also lynch Mr. Wiggles?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 20 2012 02:05 GMT
#1413
I would be down with that. He still hasn't claimed to me either.
wat
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5248 Posts
March 20 2012 03:00 GMT
#1414
My 2 main mafia suspects have been posting in quite a different manner, but the common thread between them is their apathy. There have been a number of lurkers in the game, but these two in particular have tried in different ways to remain under the radar and not stick their necks out, while town shouts at itself into chaos.

Abenson

On March 11 2012 13:42 Abenson wrote:
Alright, checking in to the game.
Goal #1: Make all my post contain 3+ lines.

For the day 1 lynch I think we should just lynch the lurkers to force them to talk.


Abenson opened the game saying that he would try and post longer/with more content (3+ lines). quite obviously, he has not done so this game, but unlike other lurkers that come in and state strong opinions on things from time to time, Abenson has literally said nothing all game long.

For every lynch, he has simply agreed with whatever following had the most votes, completely and utterly taking away any responsibility he could have in these lynches. Not only that, but in this post he puts his suspicion on both of the leading candidates, so that no matter what happens or who flips what, he was there, by not being there.

His words on caller have been equally strange. He earlier simply says caller is "trolling" and we should ignore him, then N2 (when caller openly says he will shoot palmar), Abenson states "im worried mafia will shoot caller". This encourages people to see caller as not being serious about claiming a future shot on palmar, so that caller can make it to the day and pow pow palmar. then in the day, he leaves one post: "caller looks the best. voting him. toodles~"

This level of active lurking should not be ignored anymore.

Mr. Wiggles

I've been pming wiggles for a while and I thought he was town for a while, but the more I think about it the more I do not like him. His initial post was pretty strong and logical, but for the rest of the game he does nothing to match this. Wiggles has been in a position of knowledge (able to talk to palmar, myself, a bunch of others through pm network) and has had several days to form opinions and stuff. I hate it when people on D1 say stuff like "oh foolishness ur scum because you haven't exposed the entire scum team yet, GO TO WORK", but by D3/4, known players like Wiggles should have taken a strong stance somewhere.

wiggles has not provided any direction, only asking questions of others to appear like he is being pro-town. The only time that wiggles ever takes a stance of any type is when he posts this list, where he also randomly calls deconduo town based off of pms. I wouldn't mind this kind of post D1. On D3/N3, wiggles is essentially saying "lynch into this list and we will strike scum. but uh don't lynch me", while not giving any reasoning whatsoever.

The kicker, for me, comes from my conversation in PMs and Wiggles' stance on Palmar: Wiggles and I talked about a number of thread topics, and he always replied with a fairly consistent post length, in terms of content and depth (standard paragraph)
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5248 Posts
March 20 2012 03:02 GMT
#1415
1 min before deadline have to post now, will elaborate if im still around. but both of these ppl vote without taking any responsibility, letting other people take the falls for them. they be scummin
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 20 2012 03:02 GMT
#1416
i like wiggles as a lynch too
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5248 Posts
March 20 2012 03:08 GMT
#1417
EBWOP: Guess post isn't going up yet, last paragraph from my big one should be this:

The kicker, for me, comes from my conversation in PMs and Wiggles' stance on Palmar: Wiggles and I talked about a number of thread topics, and he always replied with a fairly consistent post length, in terms of content and depth (standard paragraph). but on the topic of palmar (and mattchew), wiggles posted wayy more analysis and reasoning about why he felt palmar was suspicious, especially considering jackal's town flip.

The fact that he put a lot more on this (pm was 2.5x length), while ignoring the fact that palmar took out kurumi, and other aspects of the game in general, makes me feel that he was tryign to get me to push palmar (i had earlier said I would push palmar if jackal flipped green). It's weird that he would put a lot of effort into that push, a push made out of thread and towards a newbie, and if I had gone for it and palmar flipped green, I would take the fall for him completely.

overall wiggles don't take responsibility. yah.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5248 Posts
March 20 2012 03:16 GMT
#1418
I didn't get the time wrong right? deadline is around now?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 20 2012 03:17 GMT
#1419
i thought so
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
March 20 2012 03:24 GMT
#1420
[image loading]
Day 4


Jitsu has been thrown under a bus.
prplhz has inhaled too much purple haze.




It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to cast your votes. Day 2 ends at 8PM PDT on Wednesday. (03:00 GMT (+00:00) your time).
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