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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 05 2011 02:01 GMT
#121
Interesting you say that when steff has literally 1 post and is a much better candidate for inactive lynch. It's also interesting how your two sentence analysis ends with "this is scum".
lalala
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 05 2011 02:13 GMT
#122
On June 05 2011 10:21 prplhz wrote:
Okay I'm gonna see if I can do two things at the same time and get both a lurker and a scum.

sinani206
The guy has had 7 posts so far one "hi" post, two posts listing inactive people, two math posts, one posts where he says he's rather lynch lurkers over the scummiest player and then one single post that has any content at all; one where he asks Varpulis if he didn't change his mind rather fast.

7 posts, no content at all. This is a guy desperately trying to be active while desperately not trying to attract any attention at all. This is scum.

##Vote sinani206

Not damning evidence by any means. At least he's sharing his opinion and his reasons why. Does seem a bit sheepy though. Not sure how you came to the conclusion "this is scum" with that analysis.

Frankly, there's not enough information on the table to properly identify scum, i think. You could say that half the players in this game are trying to be active without content. It seems to me that you really wanted to find somebody scummy, so you picked a person and figured out how is posts could be interpreted as scummy.

Lynching an inactive is good and all, but it's better to lynch the one in that group that's the least active, rather than one that's just posting fluff. We can leave them for later.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 05 2011 03:17 GMT
#123
OKAY OKAY I am back. I see that some people have already tagged me as the lurker, but I just happened to luck into not having internet access for the first 24 hours of the game. Day one lynches seem to be out of the blue too, so any evidence we use is going to be a huge stretch. So far I don't see anything suspicious enough to warrant me identifying them as scum, but as time draws to a close I suppose I'll have to make a final decision. This is my first game though, and I'm not 100% sure what to look out for =(

I agree with the guy above, most first day posts might seem to look like fluff posts simply because there isn't that much to talk about
:)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 05 2011 03:59 GMT
#124
On June 05 2011 06:13 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:
The roleclaim shit was just some bullshit I made up to start discussion, feel free to ignore the idea now, it's terrible anyway.

Also, Mataza is scum.

You bring up a plan to create discussion while knowing it was completely bullshit, then you tell everyone to ignore the idea (making the discussion null and void anyway)?

That's completely retarded, big FoS, if all the inactives come back before the end of the day my vote goes to you.


Whoa whoa whoa.
The discussion is definitely not null and void. How did you come to that conclusion?

Yeah he made up a deliberately shitty plan to see who would argue for/against it. I think it's actually pretty smart move by Palmar, since people who jump on supporting this proposed plan would be either eager mafia or careless townies. Which I'm sorry to say, you fall into one of those categories.


@unichan, puppy-eyes-i'm-new-to-this and lack of commitment to a decision are actually commonly perceived as scumtells. How about you go through the thread, and pick one person that you think is most likely to be scum. Look for stuff that stands out, something that just doesn't seem right, any deliberate flaws in logic, and so on. Yeah it's day one so you're not going to be particularly sure (you almost never are), but how they react to your voting, perhaps explaining their actions in further detail is extremely helpful now and down the line as well.
(don't just say "I vote:X" as that's useless, but outline your reasoning as well i.e. "I vote:X because of ZY")
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 05 2011 04:35 GMT
#125
Okay, thanks for the advice.
Palmar seems kind of weird - he starts out by asking for a veteran claim, which doesn't seem like such a good idea to me. (reasons for this have been posted previously)
Also, Mataza posts something to refute him right after that and Palmar is immediately like LYNCH HIM and is all over him, which seems funny to me. Mataza doesn't seem too scummy to me from his posts so far, Palmar is a better bet in this situation IMO
:)
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 05 2011 04:35 GMT
#126
Actually, I'd appreciate everybody to do that. Pick somebody who you think has been acting scummy, or whose posts aren't town friendly. Give reasons, too. We need to start some actual discussion, and everybody needs to contribute. I'll start.

Currently i'm suspicious of Palmar.
-he made a bad plan early on, then tried to shrug it off as a discussion starter
-he's blindly tunneling Mataza.
-Random unexplained OMGUS vote on Youngminii
-absolutely zero contribution, barring the terrible plan "discussion starter"

He needs to prove to us that he's on our side by making posts that say more than
On June 04 2011 20:40 Palmar wrote:
you're scum.

On June 04 2011 23:43 Palmar wrote:
I'm in favor of lynching you.

On June 05 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:
Also, Mataza is scum.

On June 05 2011 07:07 Palmar wrote:
Not changing my vote though, cause Mataza is scum.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 05 2011 04:40 GMT
#127
EBWOP: ninja'd by unichan's response. My post was in response to
How about you go through the thread, and pick one person that you think is most likely to be scum. Look for stuff that stands out, something that just doesn't seem right, any deliberate flaws in logic, and so on.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 05 2011 04:40 GMT
#128
Current Post Count:
Varpulis 12
youngminii 11
Palmar 9
Sinani206 8 (including this)
Hesmyrr 7
Mataza 7
prplhz 6
JeeJee 6
OrginalName 5
Kavdragon 5
unichan 2
stefftastiq 1

Current vote list
Varpulis: Mataza stefftastiq
youngminii: unichan stefftastiq
Palmar: Mataza stefftastiq
Hesmyrr: prplhz
prplhz: sinani206
JeeJee: youngminii
Kavdragon: JeeJee unichan

This is stefftastiq's one post:

On June 04 2011 21:49 stefftastiq wrote:
I'm awake! - imba Daypost!
Day1 always seem to be a bit random - Cant say I have any excellent ideas of finding the scum - but I noted down what I thought while reading up :D

@ace @kevdragon @palmar

some internal joke about caprio I didnt get? why the lynch ?

@Mataza

Interesting that you now this game change strategies for entering the game - both of your last beginnings has been quite 'active' :D

@sinani
I see you name me in your not posted anything yet thread - I posted just before the game started that I was going to sleep.

altho, is a list like this commonly made to lead attention away from 'yourself' ? since ofcourse you never would be named in the list


He only responds to people and does not contribute to the discussion at all. He talks about some joke that obviously does not have to do with the current game, and then asks me and Mataza some silly questions. There had not been too much wrong with Mataza's play at this point in time, so I don't see why he begins metagaming with his first post. His question toward me was particularly pointless, because I specifically stated that it was a list of players who had not posted since the Day 1 post. I obviously could not name myself in the list because by posting the list I myself would be posting. Silly filler questions to help his active lurking regimen.

##Vote stefftastiq
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 05 2011 04:41 GMT
#129
EBWODP: The lists were as of June 05 2011 12:59 Forum time.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 05 2011 04:43 GMT
#130
EBWODP2: Varpulis now has 14 posts, unichan now has 3 posts, and I now have 10. I am now voting for stefftastiq.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 05 2011 04:51 GMT
#131
JeeJee isn't voting for youngminii, Palmar is, after voting for Mataza. JeeJee hasn't voted yet.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 05 2011 05:05 GMT
#132
oh shiiiiiet! - sorry, my post was when i first woke up - its been "day of music" in trondheim with concerts everywhere and drinking included :D

ok - i have not tried to defend anyone or either tried to mislead anything, i just asked questions to the posts which I read during breakfast.

right now im pretty drunk and have to read up a bit about how to clear your suspicion against me - but as i know im not scum i would point out that three people as far as i can count pretty fast changed vote to me - i guess scums can coordinate voteadressing like this?

i can promise a higher activity level later today as i will be hungover and watch mlg all day long

right now i dont have the name of who was suspicous of me - but i can ensure you im no harm !

funny situation, will be back later today
victory not vengeance
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 05 2011 05:09 GMT
#133
Wow that was a bad post. My vote stays on him till he posts some real content.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 05 2011 05:16 GMT
#134
I can sympathize with stefftastiq atm since I was gone too for most of the day and my first post was rife with misspellings and such, and my second wasn't all that helpful eitehr. I'll give him a chance, since he just seems to be getting acquainted and doesn't scream scum just yet. Sticking with Palmar who has several reasons against him other than "is unhelpful"
:)
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 05 2011 05:18 GMT
#135
On June 05 2011 13:51 Varpulis wrote:
JeeJee isn't voting for youngminii, Palmar is, after voting for Mataza. JeeJee hasn't voted yet.


They both are. Just press all and look for JeeJee.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 05 2011 05:26 GMT
#136
@Varpulis
yeah - im more suspicious of the three voting for me - im obviously an easy target for scum to try to start a bandwagon

and it might be easier to try to see a pattern between your posts/votes than it is to base your suspicious on just that one post :-p yes i have been a bit inactive - but my questions arent really scummy, they are just questions i noted while reading through the thread - and in this game, im suspicious about everybody - and asking questions are bringing back some answers

but as i mentioned earlier, ill be back after some sleep - if you still really feel im scummy - ill try to prove im town, if its really needed - and i can guarantee you that you are on the wrong track

victory not vengeance
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 05 2011 05:27 GMT
#137
oops, missed it, he put it in the middle of a post instead of the end. You have palmar voting for stefftastiq though.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 05 2011 05:28 GMT
#138
Yeah I mistyped, sorry. I have it correct in Excel.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 05 2011 05:28 GMT
#139
EBWOP: that was in response to
On June 05 2011 14:18 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 13:51 Varpulis wrote:
JeeJee isn't voting for youngminii, Palmar is, after voting for Mataza. JeeJee hasn't voted yet.


They both are. Just press all and look for JeeJee.

For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 05 2011 05:29 GMT
#140
just by looking by the votingrecordpattern you can tell that varpulis and palmar first voted for mataza, then both changed to me.. i might be an easier target for a first day lynch !

back after some sleep
victory not vengeance
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