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On June 06 2011 01:21 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 23:06 Palmar wrote:
The analysis isn't flawed. Policy lynching inactive people is stupid, and will never hit a scum. I may be wrong, but my reasons are certainly valid enough. Lynching people who you think are unfit for town is also stupid, cause that means you're not hitting scum.
I'm glad you actually stuck a vote on me this time though, even if the thought process behind it is flawed, at least you're aggressive enough this time to at least have a hope of creating discussion. Congratulations.
The reason you want to hit people is because they behave in a way that scum should behave. The thought process you should be going through is "If I were scum, would I be posting this". Only Mataza and Sinani206 fit my bill when I went through the thread. I would try to play somewhat like them if I was the scum.
Now, you may not agree with my methods to the point you're willing to vote me off for them, but can you honestly go through my posts and say "this is how I'd post if I was scum".
If you can, then keep doing your thing man. ... what is this really I'm gunning for you because your reasoning/play has been scummy so far, it doesn't have anything to do with whether I agree or disagree with your 'methods'. Also, less belittlement please. Basically your post had no real content. You reaffirm your belief that lynching inactives is stupid, yet you never disagreed with anyone about it earlier. There are plenty of people other than sinani advocating the inactive lynch, including myself, yet you don't even consider this in your crusade against sinani. Then you go on and post a bunch of bullshit for the sake of content. No, you are definitely the scummiest in this town.
killing the most inactive player is stupid. if you had actually bothered to read my analysis you'd see the main foundation is sinani's useless non-content posts and his active lurking.
feel free to provide an alternative, but at least man up and base your accusation on something other than "you're scummy".
i've stepped up my game. it's your turn
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At the Moment most of my opinions from yesterday still stand.
The only really new thing I have to bring to the table is i'm going to push stefftastiq harder as in anycase lynching lurkers now is better than having them at Lylo, and considering this is a mini game this is going to come much much sooner than we want. I highly suggest lynching him today unless he really steps up.
##Vote Stefftastiq
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On June 06 2011 02:46 OriginalName wrote:
At the Moment most of my opinions from yesterday still stand.
The only really new thing I have to bring to the table is i'm going to push stefftastiq harder as in anycase lynching lurkers now is better than having them at Lylo, and considering this is a mini game this is going to come much much sooner than we want. I highly suggest lynching him today unless he really steps up.
##Vote Stefftastiq
Thanks for the contribution. You know that you're doing exactly what scum would do, right? Hiding behind voting for a lurker instead of discussing who you actually think is scummy.
I'd like a real contribution, please. What do you think of Palmar, Youngminii, myself, or Mataza?
Who do you think is the scummiest player in this game? Even if you want to lynch a lurker, you need to be talking about scum, or else we accomplish nothing today.
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@OriginalName
... What opinions exactly? The only real opinion I can find is you saying 2.5 hours into day1 that day1 lynches are mostly dumb luck. And now you're trying to lynch a lurker who doesn't really appear to be scummy, just because he is inactive? Something that you are too. I agree with Varpulis here, this is really weak from you.
@Varpulis
Maybe your pressure of the lesser active people in this game would work better if you didn't clearly state that you are not going to press for a lynch and that you are going to vote sinani206 later.
@JeeJee
I don't think it's good for town to discuss a poor plan laid forward by a guy who also didn't really mean it. I think maybe town could have done something more useful with our time. But you are right, it really did get people talking and that's good I think I said that in my post too.
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Yep, I voted for Palmar to see how he would react to it - and I'd say he did pretty well. However his crazy Mataza crusade at the beginning is still sticking with me, and probably will for a while
youngminii -
Basically your post had no real content. You reaffirm your belief that lynching inactives is stupid, yet you never disagreed with anyone about it earlier. There are plenty of people other than sinani advocating the inactive lynch, including myself, yet you don't even consider this in your crusade against sinani.
Then you go on and post a bunch of bullshit for the sake of content.
No, you are definitely the scummiest in this town.
His posts weren't bullshit, they were him reacting to people questioning his claims, and pressure put on due to votes. Why are you still ripping on him, even though he wasn't going after you? Trying to keep this bandwagon alive?
sinani206 - All this guy has been posting are statistics, seems like he wants to look useful to get people off his back while not actually being helpful at all.
On June 05 2011 21:03 dementrio wrote:
unichan - in my first and only werewolf game i was randed wolf and I acted like he is doing now, hiding behind inexperience and expressing timid remarks about how something can be vaguely towny or scummy in dire fear of doing a wrong step. However i don't know how a newbie town would act and in my first game everyone actually thought my attitude was very villagery and I won by being the last wolf standing :\ I think we need to see what he has to say when he gains confidence.
I'm a shy poster generally, not just here - this is my first game and I really haven't found my comfort zone yet, as usual I'm scared of saying something retarded and people jumping on me 
Anyways, Palmar has proven himself to me enough, for the time being my suspicions have shifted to youngminii and sinani. My stance on lurkers/unhelpful posters atm is neutral, there's still enough time left in the day for them to come forward with something useful.
##unvote Palmar
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On June 06 2011 03:16 prplhz wrote:
@Varpulis
Maybe your pressure of the lesser active people in this game would work better if you didn't clearly state that you are not going to press for a lynch and that you are going to vote sinani206 later.
right. I'm not switching my vote until I see content. He's shown up, but he hasn't posted anything of value. My vote stays until he seems less scummy than sinani, which isn't yet the case.
Sinani gets my vote if it becomes clear that a vote on a lurker/somebody else won't accomplish much. Right now, I like my vote where it is.
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Does a lynch kill a veteran
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Yes, of course it does. Would you care to contribute?
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OK, now that that's settled, I am staying with my vote on stefftastiq for reasons that I have already stated. What else do you want me to say?
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If you would be so kind, please tell us - who you think is town, and why
- who you think is mafia, and why
- If you had to lynch somebody other than stefftastiq, who would it be and why
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Am I scummy to you, Sinani?
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On June 06 2011 04:43 sinani206 wrote:
Does a lynch kill a veteran
Yes, yes it does. Votecount coming right up btw
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ok - my heads a bit better now =D
what would benefit the town would probably be to try to separate who are voting based on good arguments, and who are taking "shortcuts"
it seems like quite a few players just are cycling their votes to target other people which are either "inactive" "lurking" which are pretty vague things to suspect scum of - atleast thats what i think.
i saw some posts about picking the player that seems most scummy - and post your thoughts on him - i feel its kinda hard, but i see if i can post a few thoughts on the ones i feel point out for now.
@youngminii
are you just trying to push everybody? i swapped your vote from unichan to me without any reason at all - maybe you need a little push yourself, make me think you are not scum - didnt you suggest a plan for the vet to claim his role? isnt that kinda ruining for town play?
@Varpulis
What im not suspicious about is why you voted for me (lurkyness, ok) - ive cleared that. But what is suspicious is that you and palmar both first pushed mataza - then me, without really discussing it together in the thread as far as i noticed?
@sinani
sinani is probably the guy im most suspicious about right now - probably because he has posted less content than me, but still "claim to be a bigger part of the game" or something like that - its hard to read scummyness out of his few posts, but it seems like he just tryes to push for someone else than himself.
@originalname
you actually just have some thoughts about mataza to easy on defending himself - and then after doing some lurking/inactivity of your own you actually change your vote to me and your reason being me beeing inactive while you were actually just as inactive yourself... it doesnt compute!
Have to read up a bit more on the rest of you guys! still some hours left 
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@palmar
Ill always be suspicious about you :o
as I've learned Palmar can play many roles - both being hardass with pointy fingers voting to pressure - but also playing strategicly by maybe not pointing the fingers at the people he "actually targets" - if he is town - this is ofcourse a good thing, if hes scum, its scary as hell!
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Why did I vote for Mataza? Pressure. my post
Why did Palmar vote for Mataza? really bad attempt at tunneling. some of his posts
I don't see how that affiliates me with Palmar, especially when I moved on while he was still posting "Mataza is scum" one-liners.
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@sinani
you should really reveal your true reasons for voting for me - you type "as stated earlier" - but what is it really? just by staying so hardcore on voting for me for asking questions about what other players write makes you a bit scummy too me - I think you are trying to form a bandwagon - but fail.
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@Varpulis
Yeah - i know - but your votes still followed the same pattern - its loose, I know! But i know Palmars style of play a bit - and in this game its possible to play on a team without it seeming so in public - have to be suspicious!
its still day 1 - these were just my thoughts - you replied, thumbs up!
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I can't recall going for you stefftastiq?
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+ Show Spoiler +Current Post Count:
Varpulis 12
youngminii 11
Palmar 9
Sinani206 8 (including this)
Hesmyrr 7
Mataza 7
prplhz 6
JeeJee 6
OrginalName 5
Kavdragon 5
unichan 2
stefftastiq 1
Current vote list
Varpulis: Mataza stefftastiq
youngminii: unichan stefftastiq
Palmar: Mataza stefftastiq
Hesmyrr: prplhz
prplhz: sinani206
JeeJee: youngminii
Kavdragon: JeeJee unichan
This is stefftastiq's one post:
On June 04 2011 21:49 stefftastiq wrote:
I'm awake! - imba Daypost!
Day1 always seem to be a bit random - Cant say I have any excellent ideas of finding the scum - but I noted down what I thought while reading up :D
@ace @kevdragon @palmar
some internal joke about caprio I didnt get? why the lynch ?
@Mataza
Interesting that you now this game change strategies for entering the game - both of your last beginnings has been quite 'active' :D
@sinani
I see you name me in your not posted anything yet thread - I posted just before the game started that I was going to sleep.
altho, is a list like this commonly made to lead attention away from 'yourself' ? since ofcourse you never would be named in the list
He only responds to people and does not contribute to the discussion at all. He talks about some joke that obviously does not have to do with the current game, and then asks me and Mataza some silly questions. There had not been too much wrong with Mataza's play at this point in time, so I don't see why he begins metagaming with his first post. His question toward me was particularly pointless, because I specifically stated that it was a list of players who had not posted since the Day 1 post. I obviously could not name myself in the list because by posting the list I myself would be posting. Silly filler questions to help his active lurking regimen.
##Vote stefftastiq
@Palmar - i honestly didnt see that vote myself, but sinani posted his votingcount... which included you so I thought it was legit, it obviously wasnt (maybe even that was done to make people vote in his direction...."
@sinani
why the bad count?
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