• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:00
CEST 13:00
KST 20:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League17Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1195.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker Terran AddOns placement SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos [Recap] Hive ZvZ in MonstarZ vs Dreams [ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory! Bot on ladder
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8885 users

My statement and apologies - Page 67

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 65 66 67 68 69 73 Next
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
March 11 2012 23:45 GMT
#1321
While I don't condone anyone calling other people a "negro" (or "faggot" for that matter), I do believe that Reddit blew these year-old events out of proportion and I'm sorry it all ended up this way for you, -orb-. That said... given the outcome that already happened, I hope you take away the right lessons from this, so that next time you'll be even better.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Felony
Profile Joined May 2010
United States131 Posts
March 12 2012 00:05 GMT
#1322
In my opinion the term faggot is much worse than nigger...I mean when you hear rappers and black people themselves calling each other nigger or nigga it can be hard to determine what is actually offensive. I don't condone either word being used, especially while being angry since it makes you seem more like you're actually trying to offend someone, I do hope your apology is sincere and hope you get back to normalcy as soon as possible. I think this was a wake up call for lots of people in the SC2 community and I hope to see less of this type of language used in BMing people on the ladder.
Spieltor
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
327 Posts
March 12 2012 00:17 GMT
#1323
On March 12 2012 05:43 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 05:33 darkscream wrote:
On March 12 2012 05:26 Hemula wrote:
Hey guys, since I have a big interest in the n-word (when I found out that it is a forbidden word, I was shocked, for, in Russia we still use this word or negro(negr) for black persons, it's just a word for us, no historical meaning behind it. And after all, it's just a derriviation from the same "black" word, just in french or spanish, so it was really, really hard to coeprehend why it's offensive) so, I have a question.
Is it okay to call a white person by the n-word? If you're joking around. While speaking in english, of course.


depends on your company and location


Typically countries that did not treat black people as badly do not feel as badly about the word nigger.

In the USA however, it seems that context is irrelevant and intent is irrelevant, if you say nigger you are to be nailed to a cross and have your career ruined.

thats compeltely incorrect, when you use nigger out of anger as an insult in order to try and make the other person feel bad then you get in trouble


LOL. Fork rider you dont live in the U.S. do you? I do, and what he stated is correct. there is no way to use the word "nigger" and not be in trouble. You always lose your job or anything else. Additionally, black people can use "nigga" at free reign, while if a white guy does it, again, you're likely to lose everything, because you're either seen as racist or mocking black people.

There is no way to say "nigger" and not lose your job, unless you use it while describing it as a word someone else used, and even then most people who are reporting on it say "the n-word", because of the fear.

Social outrage will cause people to lose jobs over it, even if a person uses it in an explanatory case of what another person said, like the news. it's just not worth it.

On the other hand, people don't seem to understand that that much social pressure can get people fired and change the course of companies in the consumer world, so thats why they don't use it in sc2 to fix the game before hots, (like getting lan).
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 12 2012 00:21 GMT
#1324
On March 12 2012 09:17 Spieltor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 05:43 Forikorder wrote:
On March 12 2012 05:33 darkscream wrote:
On March 12 2012 05:26 Hemula wrote:
Hey guys, since I have a big interest in the n-word (when I found out that it is a forbidden word, I was shocked, for, in Russia we still use this word or negro(negr) for black persons, it's just a word for us, no historical meaning behind it. And after all, it's just a derriviation from the same "black" word, just in french or spanish, so it was really, really hard to coeprehend why it's offensive) so, I have a question.
Is it okay to call a white person by the n-word? If you're joking around. While speaking in english, of course.


depends on your company and location


Typically countries that did not treat black people as badly do not feel as badly about the word nigger.

In the USA however, it seems that context is irrelevant and intent is irrelevant, if you say nigger you are to be nailed to a cross and have your career ruined.

thats compeltely incorrect, when you use nigger out of anger as an insult in order to try and make the other person feel bad then you get in trouble


LOL. Fork rider you dont live in the U.S. do you? I do, and what he stated is correct. there is no way to use the word "nigger" and not be in trouble. You always lose your job or anything else. Additionally, black people can use "nigga" at free reign, while if a white guy does it, again, you're likely to lose everything, because you're either seen as racist or mocking black people.

There is no way to say "nigger" and not lose your job, unless you use it while describing it as a word someone else used, and even then most people who are reporting on it say "the n-word", because of the fear.

Social outrage will cause people to lose jobs over it, even if a person uses it in an explanatory case of what another person said, like the news. it's just not worth it.

On the other hand, people don't seem to understand that that much social pressure can get people fired and change the course of companies in the consumer world, so thats why they don't use it in sc2 to fix the game before hots, (like getting lan).

fork rider? first time i heard that one

as i said earlier its is generally frowned upon to say it in public but depending on where you are and who your with it can be pretty safe to say it jokingly (like among friends in a fairly private area) but using it out of anger is pretty much 100% of the time not a good idea
socommaster123
Profile Joined May 2010
United States578 Posts
March 12 2012 02:11 GMT
#1325
Goodluck people make much bigger mistakes. You will learn from this and be more careful. Youre a good commentator so you will be fine my friend.
Idra White Ra Sheth DRG SaSe Thorzain GOGO!
Outrageouss
Profile Joined March 2012
United States15 Posts
March 12 2012 04:24 GMT
#1326
I really believe this apology was honest and sincere, and I feel very sorry about everything that has happened. Although I don't personally know you, I know you are likely going through some amount of pain over this whole ordeal, and this has taken a bit of a tole on the whole starcraft community. It is unfortunate that you will no longer be able to continue in Starcraft 2 as a part of EG, but it may have still been necessary for it to happen. I forgive you for your words that were spoken in anger, and I hope the rest of the community is able to do so as well.
This is difficult for me to say but I feel I must..the sixth sheik's sixth sheep's sick.
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
March 12 2012 04:43 GMT
#1327
I kind of understand why orb acted this way.
Before he realized there is a potential career option for pro gaming, he just didn't care about other people and showed his "true" self through ladder and streams. But after you realize that there are many opportunities that lie in this esports scene, you realize these behaviors are unacceptable.

However, only through harsh consequences like this you truly regret and apologize for what you have done. I can feel the sincerity of this post, he honestly didn't see this kind of uproar incoming. Unfortunately, it was after too late. And that's what happened, I think.
InvXXVII
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada242 Posts
March 12 2012 04:56 GMT
#1328
EG probably did the right thing firing you (after all, very often it only takes one mistake to get into trouble at the workplace). However, you shouldn't be too hard on yourself. This was one incident, and it shouldn't wipe away all the amazing games you've casted in the past. So you have not failed as an entertainer. You made a mistake, got punished for it, and that should be that. You're still an amazing caster, and as long as you learn from your mistake, you'll do great in the future.
A good loser is still a loser.
Xenocryst
Profile Joined December 2010
United States521 Posts
March 12 2012 05:01 GMT
#1329
Its not the BM thats important. but the N-word has so much tension and pain affiliated with it that in no way is it EVER acceptable
ChrysaliS_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States261 Posts
March 12 2012 06:09 GMT
#1330
orb was a pretty good caster, EG made a dumb nigger mistake if you ask me

User was temp banned for this post.
Chrysalis.145
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
March 12 2012 06:14 GMT
#1331
On March 12 2012 15:09 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
orb was a pretty good caster, EG made a dumb nigger mistake if you ask me

wtf?

Anyway, I always thought that they give -Orb- another chance, I like him and these should be regarded as making a silly mistake and letting him have one more chance. Also its a lesson that is learnt through mistakes.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
March 12 2012 06:23 GMT
#1332
On March 12 2012 14:01 Xenocryst wrote:
Its not the BM thats important. but the N-word has so much tension and pain affiliated with it that in no way is it EVER acceptable


Unless you're black.

We live in a society of double standards, its how America runs. Unfortunately, orb is not black, so he does not have free reign to say nigger whenever he wants to.
In Mushi we trust
Daehlie
Profile Joined September 2010
United States43 Posts
March 12 2012 06:24 GMT
#1333
A genuine apology and it is appreciated. I think it will take some time before the community is really ready to forgive and forget, but this is a step in the right direction.
SK.MC ftw
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 12 2012 06:40 GMT
#1334
On March 12 2012 15:23 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 14:01 Xenocryst wrote:
Its not the BM thats important. but the N-word has so much tension and pain affiliated with it that in no way is it EVER acceptable


Unless you're black.

We live in a society of double standards, its how America runs. Unfortunately, orb is not black, so he does not have free reign to say nigger whenever he wants to.

That's not a double standard. White people can say cracker and black people can say nigger and not be racist. It would be a double standard if white people could say both words and blacks could not, that would be a double standard.
"let your freak flag fly"
Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
March 12 2012 06:46 GMT
#1335
Granted orb and other potential casters will probably never read this post, I'll say it anyway. Myself, and probably most of the community, are okay if people get angry and rage/BM their opponent but never resort to personal or racist remarks. If you insult someones playing, it can always be forgiven. We just don't need to degrade our community into prejudice.
GET SM4SHED
xiyb
Profile Joined December 2011
Croatia3 Posts
March 12 2012 08:45 GMT
#1336
I was thinking at first this guy is a solid caster but than once i saw him streaming on kr ladder and raging like a madman i lost all respect of him.
whateva
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 12 2012 10:59 GMT
#1337
On March 12 2012 15:40 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 15:23 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:
On March 12 2012 14:01 Xenocryst wrote:
Its not the BM thats important. but the N-word has so much tension and pain affiliated with it that in no way is it EVER acceptable


Unless you're black.

We live in a society of double standards, its how America runs. Unfortunately, orb is not black, so he does not have free reign to say nigger whenever he wants to.

That's not a double standard. White people can say cracker and black people can say nigger and not be racist. It would be a double standard if white people could say both words and blacks could not, that would be a double standard.


Never seen a black person saying "the C word". They all call me cracker, whity, vanilla, and nigga in disguise(because Im 6ft4). And Im ok with it.

tbh we are 2012. It amuses me that the n-word problem still exists at this point in time.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
March 12 2012 12:59 GMT
#1338
You were never at fault, the community just went too far and took this too seriously. This is why the existence of /r/starcraft is pretty bad for sc2 as a whole, the lack of moderation on there has caused something like this to happen. Raging on the ladder isn't news, neither is using derogatory language. Reddit took this way too far in my opinion.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
March 12 2012 13:08 GMT
#1339
On March 12 2012 19:59 Zephirdd wrote:
tbh we are 2012. It amuses me that the n-word problem still exists at this point in time.


if nobody would use that word no problem would exist. The reason why nobody should use that word won't change
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
March 12 2012 13:13 GMT
#1340
On March 12 2012 22:08 Tofugrinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 19:59 Zephirdd wrote:
tbh we are 2012. It amuses me that the n-word problem still exists at this point in time.


if nobody would use that word no problem would exist. The reason why nobody should use that word won't change


The problem wouldn't exist if people would stop giving the word power, too. The only way you're going to get people to stop saying it is by forcing them to do it, and I personally was under the impression that Fascism ended in 1945.
Prev 1 65 66 67 68 69 73 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
ByuN vs Percival
Percival vs SHIN
Percival vs herO
ByuN vs SHIN
ByuN vs herO
SHIN vs herO
Liquipedia
CranKy Ducklings
19:00
Master Swan Open #108 (SHIN Mod Edition)
CranKy Ducklings34
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko219
EmSc Tv 14
ByuN 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 9716
Soulkey 1541
FanTaSy 895
Shuttle 839
Horang2 561
Larva 533
EffOrt 475
BeSt 300
Hyuk 254
actioN 214
[ Show more ]
firebathero 211
Hyun 168
ZerO 149
Mini 146
Zeus 144
Last 97
ggaemo 93
Barracks 82
Dewaltoss 77
Mind 71
910 64
sorry 48
Shinee 44
ToSsGirL 38
hero 32
Sharp 32
Aegong 28
soO 22
HiyA 18
yabsab 15
Bishop 14
scan(afreeca) 14
Free 13
Sacsri 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Noble 8
Dota 2
Gorgc4093
ODPixel153
League of Legends
Reynor89
Other Games
gofns45645
singsing2038
Pyrionflax208
B2W.Neo198
DeMusliM191
MindelVK11
ZerO(Twitch)11
BEARDiaguz10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick547
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 83
WardiTV80
TaKeTV 63
EmSc Tv 14
EmSc2Tv 14
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• Dystopia_ 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
AI Arena Tournament
5h
BSL Open Qualifier
8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h
OSC
1d 2h
IPSL
1d 5h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 8h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
FEL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.