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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
That thought keeps creeping back into my mind. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 28 2012 02:42 Jitsu wrote: @VE, the other thing yelling at me in the back of my mind is that BC is still alive. No one claimed a Jackal Vig shot, so I assume both Jackal and Syllo were mafia hits. Two shots on two town players - understandable. But they didn't even attempt to kill one of the better, more renowned town players? That thought keeps creeping back into my mind. who would be those better, more renowned town players? Kita? Wbg? prplhz? BC? I'd say Jackal looked better than all of the people I just mentioned and syllo was straight up confirmed given how he played and actually DID something (and got pissed after he realized noone is playing). | ||
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
All WIFOM though. It's just a question mark in mah heads. I'm waiting to read VE's cases. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On February 28 2012 02:40 Jitsu wrote: Lol, it's funny how he has me third from the top when I have the same amount of filter as he does. Not only are you not trying to move discussion forward but you are wrong. If you look at and compare both of our fliters, it is quite clear that i have more in my filter than you have in yours, despite my need to put everything in spoilers. + Show Spoiler [here is a picture to illustrate this] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FQOat.png) this is both of our filters viewed in "all", note that the sidebar is bigger in Jitsu's because there is less to scroll through Why don't you tell us who you want to lynch today Jitsu? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 28 2012 02:50 Jitsu wrote: I could understand Syllo. I am curious to why Jackal was shot instead of them at least trying to shoot BC. All WIFOM though. It's just a question mark in mah heads. I'm waiting to read VE's cases. 1. Mabe this no-flip thingy d1 didn't use both mafia KP and only used one KP making it a noflip + 1KP d1 (I really doubt we got 2 protections/ vets shot). If that's the case they shot someone d1 who got protected. That someone can't be syllo because no medic is stupid enough to switch targets after a no-kill night when he actually protected a vet who is referred to as one of the, if not the most intelligent town player on TL.net. Again, no medic is stupid enough to do that. So maybe they shot BC n1 and he got protected resulting in shooting Jackal instead last night. Maybe they shot someone else and that guy got protected, idk. Yes it's a lot of wifom but it could be an explanation. 2. BC's town hasn't been impressive this game at all. Yes he is (according to everyone else here) a semi-god who plays a sick mafia but his townplay so far has not impressed me at all. Neither did it in L. Not saying it's bad, just not what I expected after everyone yelling "omfg BC top 3 players on TL" (or whatever). That said, Jackal is hard to judge but nevertheless he still looked better than players I mentioned earlier on. There's people thinking wbg might be mafia, there's people thinking prplhz might be mafia, the only thing that makes kita look good is the fact that he's very dedicated in killing me when he's mafia (sup Mr. we need to shoot Toad 6 times? ❤ ). So while you might argue if Jackal really is playing a bad town (he is not) or if he's palying worse than those people I quoted (I doubt that) you can't ignore the fact that the alternatives that are considered "good" all had some issues which made them look scummy to at least some degree. Why would mafia want to shoot people we're talking about because they're looking scummy? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
BC's town hasn't been impressive this game at all. Yes he is (according to everyone else here) a semi-god who plays a sick mafia but his townplay so far has not impressed me at all. Neither did it in L. Not saying it's bad, just not what I expected after everyone yelling "omfg BC top 3 players on TL" (or whatever). Assumption that BC is town. This either means that he knows BC's alignment is town (meaning scum or DT) or that they are both scum and Toades is afraid to say anything suspicious of BC. Dunno. I've actually seen RoL play this badly as town before. I think he ragequit Salem after someone accused him of being scum. It made him so angry that he flamed the shit out of the guy (idr who it was) then roleclaimed and left the game. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I think Dirkzor/Toadesstern are mafia Assumption that BC is town. This either means that he knows BC's alignment is town (meaning scum or DT) or that they are both scum and Toades is afraid to say anything suspicious of BC. Dunno. I've actually seen RoL play this badly as town before. I think he ragequit Salem after someone accused him of being scum. It made him so angry that he flamed the shit out of the guy (idr who it was) then roleclaimed and left the game. RoL was a mod of salem with me >.> | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On February 28 2012 02:42 Jitsu wrote: @VE, the other thing yelling at me in the back of my mind is that BC is still alive. No one claimed a Jackal Vig shot, so I assume both Jackal and Syllo were mafia hits. Two shots on two town players - understandable. But they didn't even attempt to kill one of the better, more renowned town players? That thought keeps creeping back into my mind. This is wifom beyond belief -_- There are numerous reasons as to why someone of my standing would or wouldn't get shot. I could obviously start naming some of them but it would serve no actual point to list them. The few most likely logical reasons mafia would not shoot me is they believe I will get lynched, they believe a town will shoot me, or they have tried and it was stopped in some way(obviously no way to confirm this last one). There are many more reasons obviously but these are the ones that stand out in my mind. Its also hard to actually figure out the logical reasons as to why all people get shot at night as they could be shot from anything ranging from they were saying intelligent things to attempting to dodge medics to attempting to blue snipe. Without knowing who the mafia is, attempting to guess why someone was shot or not shot is merely guesses/assumptions and cannot be proven until reds start to flip. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I think Dirkzor/Toadesstern are mafia Assumption that BC is town. This either means that he knows BC's alignment is town (meaning scum or DT) or that they are both scum and Toades is afraid to say anything suspicious of BC. Dunno. I've actually seen RoL play this badly as town before. I think he ragequit Salem after someone accused him of being scum. It made him so angry that he flamed the shit out of the guy (idr who it was) then roleclaimed and left the game. As a note DrH to help prove your point, i believe mafia 42 (i believe this is flamewheels weird mason mechanic game) would fit the bill for RoL playing badly as town. He lurked until heavily called out, then proceeded to push lynches on townies and get into pointless arguments with his accusers. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I think Dirkzor/Toadesstern are mafia Assumption that BC is town. This either means that he knows BC's alignment is town (meaning scum or DT) or that they are both scum and Toades is afraid to say anything suspicious of BC. Dunno. I've actually seen RoL play this badly as town before. I think he ragequit Salem after someone accused him of being scum. It made him so angry that he flamed the shit out of the guy (idr who it was) then roleclaimed and left the game. "BC's town" = what he shows this game. That doesn't mean he is town it's actualyl the exact opposite. I'm NOT assuming he's town, I am telling people that what there might be more to BC than what he's telling us in this thread, e.g. a mafiafQT or mafiaIRC. If at all you should be worried that I'm talking about those 2 sides of this medal because mafias obviously are well aware of the fact that Thread-Guy =/= Real-Guy because everyone of them is trying to impersonate something else withing the thread. So he's either a mafia who's (obviously) trying to look like a townie and that townie he tries to impersonate is not as good of a townie than most people praise him to be. Or he's a townie who's getting hyped a lot and hasn't met those expectations. But yeah, I so far the "he's a townie" explanation looks more reasonable to me although there's some things I don't like about him. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I think Dirkzor/Toadesstern are mafia Assumption that BC is town. This either means that he knows BC's alignment is town (meaning scum or DT) or that they are both scum and Toades is afraid to say anything suspicious of BC. Dunno. I've actually seen RoL play this badly as town before. I think he ragequit Salem after someone accused him of being scum. It made him so angry that he flamed the shit out of the guy (idr who it was) then roleclaimed and left the game. 100% agree with you, on Toad, that is a massive scumslip. Toad already "knows" BC is town wtf. He'd be a great alternative to a RoL lynch. Dirkzor, however, I have no read on. I don't really know what his meta is and I don't see anything particularly of note in his filter. Can't say much there. @Kita: you've been awful quiet all game. Care to explain what you think right now? @RoL: you're fucking lucky Toad scumslipped so hard, or I'd be pushing you like there's no tomorrow. All you do is lurk lurk lurk and then make excuses for your inactivity. That's exactly what you did when we were teammates in Couples Therapy and it's what you did (IIRC) in Purgatory as well. @VE: You're going on a posting spree because you were inactive for 48 hours, not because you actually want to find scum. The fact that you consider me scum after having played on the same team as me in BC's game is indicative of you having malicious goals. You're not town this game and you need to die as well. TL;DR: kill Toad, RoL, VE. If we ensure that the votes stay between these 3 players I'm confident we will hit only scum today. ##vote Toadesstern | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
I pointed this out specifically earlier in the game to see who is actually reading the thread; BC's town play, in comparison to his scum play, is awful. Just look at XLVII where he tunneled Palmar for 2 goddamn days. Toad either deliberately ignored this, or he's not reading the thread: neither of these things tell me we have a town Toad. He should know all of this without me even saying anything, but yet he still asserts the opposite, which suggests he is scum. Why would any townie try to assert something they should know is completely untrue? Right now he's riding the line between BC being scum and town, which is suspiciously indicative of him trying to make an accusation that will stick with some player in the game. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:48 wherebugsgo wrote: Most damning about Toad is that he's trying to twist BC's well-known SCUM META into well-known all-around (which just isn't true.) I pointed this out specifically earlier in the game to see who is actually reading the thread; BC's town play, in comparison to his scum play, is awful. Just look at XLVII where he tunneled Palmar for 2 goddamn days. Toad either deliberately ignored this, or he's not reading the thread: neither of these things tell me we have a town Toad. He should know all of this without me even saying anything, but yet he still asserts the opposite, which suggests he is scum. Why would any townie try to assert something they should know is completely untrue? Right now he's riding the line between BC being scum and town, which is suspiciously indicative of him trying to make an accusation that will stick with some player in the game. wat? I was responding to this one: On February 28 2012 02:42 Jitsu wrote: @VE, the other thing yelling at me in the back of my mind is that BC is still alive. No one claimed a Jackal Vig shot, so I assume both Jackal and Syllo were mafia hits. Two shots on two town players - understandable. But they didn't even attempt to kill one of the better, more renowned town players? That thought keeps creeping back into my mind. The guy said shooting Jackal makes no sense because BC is way better as Town and I said I doubt that. What are you even talking about? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:41 wherebugsgo wrote: @Jitsu stop spouting nonsense, syllo was 100% the only person who was playing with any sense. By talking about other hits you're just begging to speculate about scum goals. Which, unless you are scum this game, you have zero ideas about. 100% agree with you, on Toad, that is a massive scumslip. Toad already "knows" BC is town wtf. He'd be a great alternative to a RoL lynch. Dirkzor, however, I have no read on. I don't really know what his meta is and I don't see anything particularly of note in his filter. Can't say much there. @Kita: you've been awful quiet all game. Care to explain what you think right now? @RoL: you're fucking lucky Toad scumslipped so hard, or I'd be pushing you like there's no tomorrow. All you do is lurk lurk lurk and then make excuses for your inactivity. That's exactly what you did when we were teammates in Couples Therapy and it's what you did (IIRC) in Purgatory as well. @VE: You're going on a posting spree because you were inactive for 48 hours, not because you actually want to find scum. The fact that you consider me scum after having played on the same team as me in BC's game is indicative of you having malicious goals. You're not town this game and you need to die as well. TL;DR: kill Toad, RoL, VE. If we ensure that the votes stay between these 3 players I'm confident we will hit only scum today. ##vote Toadesstern watwatwat?!?!? Okay I get that you got a fucking big ego but that IS bullshit and is actually a REAL scumslip. You're basicly saying you figured 3 mafias out whereas we got 0 mafias hanging until now. That's complete and utter bullshit, yet you go on and promise that town will hang a mafia as long as people lynch into that list no matter who dies. So you're basicly ruling out the possiblity that not even 1 of those guys might flip town. Nice one wbg | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:58 Toadesstern wrote: watwatwat?!?!? Okay I get that you got a fucking big ego but that IS bullshit and is actually a REAL scumslip. You're basicly saying you figured 3 mafias out whereas we got 0 mafias hanging until now. That's complete and utter bullshit, yet you go on and promise that town will hang a mafia as long as people lynch into that list no matter who dies. So you're basicly ruling out the possiblity that not even 1 of those guys might flip town. Nice one wbg just for clarification because this is important. He says "votes stay between these 3 players". He is saying "those 3 are mafia and we need to focus on one guy". Votes staying between those 3 players = mafia can manipulate if there's a least a single player in there who's not mafia. No way bugs would say such a thing, not even with his ego. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
oh shit wait who was it who ragequit that game | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: As a note DrH to help prove your point, i believe mafia 42 (i believe this is flamewheels weird mason mechanic game) would fit the bill for RoL playing badly as town. He lurked until heavily called out, then proceeded to push lynches on townies and get into pointless arguments with his accusers. RoL is the kind of guy who will call anyone who calls him out a retard and get super mad if hes town and it's the only thing that makes me doubt he might be scum I always tried to get youngminii lynched for the same reasons and we ended up both being town or he'd shoot me | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
@Toades It isn't a scumslip to say he's pretty sure these 3 guys are scum. You're grasping at straws defensively, it's really obvious to me now. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
And no, I'm not ruling out the possibility that any of you are town. I just consider it too implausible considering the things you and VE have said and the things RoL hasn't. I'm not surprised you would try to shed doubt on my position like that. It's what I'd expect scared scum to do, anyway. I'll be back after class (~5 hours from now) | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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