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Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 17 2012 22:56 GMT

#1301

On December 18 2012 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:

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Yes you piece of shit. I have plenty of evidence for JieXian if you ever bothered to read you dumbfuck.

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hapascama

MrZentor

United States1648 Posts

December 17 2012 22:56 GMT

#1302

This is getting intense.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

December 17 2012 23:00 GMT

#1303

Let's keep it relatively civil, ladies and gentlemen.

Djodref

France3332 Posts

December 17 2012 23:01 GMT

#1304

##Vote Eywa

Doesn't even take time to read a case.
Town atmosphere = shit
constructive discussion = 0

Djodref

France3332 Posts

December 17 2012 23:02 GMT

#1305

That's so unsportsmanlike to shit up the thread like this

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

December 17 2012 23:05 GMT

#1306

*deep breath*

So Regarding JieXian:
He's simply not voting for people that he thinks is mafia. This post proves it:

On December 17 2012 05:53 JieXian wrote:

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On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

On December 17 2012 05:42 JieXian wrote:
shit

it was about the acoltye = townie not a scumslip thing

morbid is a bad idea I'm down for a mrcc lynch

On December 17 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

On December 17 2012 03:49 JieXian wrote:

On December 17 2012 01:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hey guys, shenanigans here being sorted out. I'm down for a Thrawn lynch, he's a sheeping scummy dude right meow.

Thrawn is an Opportunist
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On December 15 2012 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok

##Vote Djodref

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what kind of information are you looking for?

Sheep on Djodref vote, hardcore. No explanation, just does it. Also, the question he asks is self-explanatory.

On December 15 2012 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't th9nk hapa's case was super good but dp's reaction to it seems insane

Slightly discredits Hapa's case, and takes the opportunity to acknowledge that DP looks scummy after an OMGUS vote (duh). He then unvotes to keep his options open. When Hapa makes his more fortified case, he suddenly believes it's some god-given scumhunting then votes for DP.

Wait, What's this?

On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons

1. start of the game and everyone is lurking
2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics

Didn't Thrawn VOTE for Djo based on this exact thing? He was being obsessed with blue roles / witchhunter and Thrawn sheeped the vote, supposedly because of this. Now he thinks it's not fair to accuse him?

On December 16 2012 10:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh sniped on the random lurker vote lol, sounds fun

##unvote
##Vote: Mr Cheesecake

pie is better and all you mo-fos need to start posting

Sheeps onto lurker vote opportunity. Underlined = scummiest shit ever townies like cheesecake over pie.

On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok here's what I probably mean about kush...

you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.

he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town.

PROBABLY mean? What? How do you probably mean something...? Town mean things genuinely, scum try to emulate they are meaning something. The rest of this post is garbage--he comes to no read on Kush at all, just flip-flops between the possibility of town kush not wanting to lynch him and the alternative scum motivation.

Above all, Thrawn doesn't seem to care who is lynched:

On December 15 2012 11:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
this conversation between the few of us is getting very tiresome

i'll lynch lurkers

LURKERS

i will happily lynch you

Okay so he wants to lynch a lurker. By all means, a viable strategy considering the circumstance. But he also wants to lynch Djo, JX, DP... I'm confused. I don't see strong scum reads from him other than on JX due to obvious scumslips. He is sheeping a ton and doesn't seem too caring of who he wants to get lynched.

Just look at this flip-floppiness between lurker lynching and lynching his top scumread.

On December 16 2012 20:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
I suggest all town people be around during the lynch if (when?) we decide to lynch a rando lurker

Maybe we could lynch a lurker! That sounds like a good idea!

On December 16 2012 20:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
i still really really like it

But I still really really like a JX lynch!

On December 16 2012 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
but who knows, perhaps some lurker will die instead

But maybe we could lynch a lurker! I'm all for that!

Why is Thrawn so indecisive?

On December 16 2012 14:04 thrawn2112 wrote:

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no this is a lie

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the red parts are what I just now added to the 2nd post that would make the 1st post true. I bolded "but above all" because that implies you still hold your suspicions about hapa/dp.

J scum-slipped hard, he lied about the scumslip, he's a lurker... and he's scum

He states JX is scum. THEN WHY IS HE KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN LIKE THIS? Town Thrawn would want to push this JX lynch into the ground, not be ready to jump off the wagon at the last minute to lynch a lurker.

Thrawn's general posting in context of the thread seems very opportunistic. The way he jumps on JX's vote post of Mr.Z is just that, scum trying to find easy things to tackle people on. I have no clue, if town, why he's willing to lynch a lurker right now if he's set on JX being scum.

##Vote: Thrawn

On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote:
we really need a vote count...
We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch.
Who are teh viable lynches at this point?
Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker?

Yes we need a vote count.

I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers?

On December 17 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:

read my filter please, I'm still waiting for his reply

On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you.

So you posted your long wall of text case against thrawn for shits and giggles?

I get it

Jx, you're really paranoid.

If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why.

WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING THRAWN NOW THEN?

BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRO, WHAT U WANT FROM ME.

If anyone else wants to vote thrawn, please do so.

Ok join me

#Vote thrawn2122

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if MrZ was town he was playing noob enough for me to go nuts for him

He doesn't have a scumread on thrawn. By his own admission, he voted thrawn to "dare" Mr. CC to vote thrawn.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=42#834
He NEVER has a scumread on thrawn in his filter. He straight up voted a guy who his top scumread was pushing. Where's the town motivation in that? There is none.

Then we get to the "hapa's scum 'cause he's not dead" stuff.

On December 18 2012 02:37 JieXian wrote:

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beacuse it would have been for the next top witchcraft candidate

ie you?

On December 18 2012 02:40 JieXian wrote:
who's townier than you?

no one

He harps many times about how I'm the only other possible witchcraft candidate in the game. But...

On December 18 2012 03:03 JieXian wrote:

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eywa and I certainly didn't

He didn't vote me. This makes no sense. Apparently there were other viable candidates (the ones he voted), yet he believes I was the only other possible one.

JieXian is scum. His actions make no sense.

MrZentor

United States1648 Posts

December 17 2012 23:06 GMT

#1307

Yet again, people are voting based on whether somebody is pro town or not.

Whether somebody is actually scum seems totally irrelevant when deciding who to kill.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

December 17 2012 23:06 GMT

#1308

This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

December 17 2012 23:11 GMT

#1309

On December 18 2012 08:06 MrZentor wrote:
Yet again, people are voting based on whether somebody is pro town or not.

Whether somebody is actually scum seems totally irrelevant when deciding who to kill.

Yeah, but I think he has a chance at flipping scum. Hell it's tempting to lynch him on the basis that the town would be better off without him.

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 17 2012 23:12 GMT

#1310

On December 18 2012 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok.

actually that's false as proven by my post about him, he clearly voted for someone he didn't think was scum last time since no one would vote for his suspect.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

December 17 2012 23:13 GMT

#1311

And I'm not sure why you think he's town. He's just being confrontational. He's not providing analysis, he's not doing much of anything. He's just mudslinging. It's very easy for mafia to sit and spam "OMG HE"S SCUM SCUM SCUM." That's exactly what Eywa is doing. How many people has he called scum in the past 10 minutes? 5... 6...?

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 17 2012 23:13 GMT

#1312

It's the nature of the game, people will lynch those who actually guess right because they don't conform (scum do it because they'd be dead otherwise).

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

December 17 2012 23:13 GMT

#1313

On December 18 2012 08:12 Eywa- wrote:

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actually that's false as proven by my post about him, he clearly voted for someone he didn't think was scum last time since no one would vote for his suspect.

Last post on JieXian or on CC?

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 17 2012 23:15 GMT

#1314

On December 18 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:
And I'm not sure why you think he's town. He's just being confrontational. He's not providing analysis, he's not doing much of anything. He's just mudslinging. It's very easy for mafia to sit and spam "OMG HE"S SCUM SCUM SCUM." That's exactly what Eywa is doing. How many people has he called scum in the past 10 minutes? 5... 6...?

1, only mister cheesecake.

Your constant trying to defend him without being able to counter any argument I brought about him simply means you're not thinking analytically or are scum, which is a problem. Either option is still open... I've stuck on two people all game because I sincerely think they're scum... Now stop lying about me to make a case.

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 17 2012 23:16 GMT

#1315

On December 18 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:

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Last post on JieXian or on CC?

On CC, I don't think Jie Xian is scum... He's saved too many townspeople or attempted to.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

December 17 2012 23:18 GMT

#1316

I'm going to assume your post on JieXian. The problem is that you're holding some non-sensical and arbitrary double-standard, where JieXian is allowed to vote for whoever he wants because his top scumread is "never getting lynched", but CC on the other hand is scum for voting Morbidius when his own top scumread (thrawn) has no chance of getting lynched.

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 17 2012 23:18 GMT

#1317

On December 18 2012 08:01 Djodref wrote:
##Vote Eywa

Doesn't even take time to read a case.
Town atmosphere = shit
constructive discussion = 0

On the contrary, all evidence I've presented has been ignored with false claims being made that I had presented none... Given that you should be voting for yourself (since you ignored both cases I made).

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

December 17 2012 23:19 GMT

#1318

On December 18 2012 08:16 Eywa- wrote:

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On CC, I don't think Jie Xian is scum... He's saved too many townspeople or attempted to.

A half-assed attempt to save a townie is not grounds to believe someone is town. It's really easy (and common) for mafia to defend townies they know will hang. They know townies allignment - it's a riskless play for mafia since they know they'll be right.

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 17 2012 23:20 GMT

#1319

On December 18 2012 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm going to assume your post on JieXian. The problem is that you're holding some non-sensical and arbitrary double-standard, where JieXian is allowed to vote for whoever he wants because his top scumread is "never getting lynched", but CC on the other hand is scum for voting Morbidius when his own top scumread (thrawn) has no chance of getting lynched.

Wrong, You think that CC actually thought Morb was guilty, on the contrary, he publicly stated otherwise.

Also wrong thinking I have a double standard, I don't mind killing jie xian given that there is a potential of him being scum, but I won't do so until I check my hypothesis about cheesegrater.

All of your claims about me are proven false, yet you still make them... I don't understand where your logic spurs from.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

December 17 2012 23:21 GMT

#1320

You believe in some magical mafia world where townies are always right about things, and mafia are always pushing the wrong things. This is completely false. Perhaps amongst your friends this has some merit, but on TL this is simply not true.

Townies are often wrong. Townies don't know allignments. They push emotional mislynches, are easily maniuplated... etc. Scum on the other hand know exactly who's town and who's not. It's really fucking easy for them to defend a townie and claim town cred for it when the townie flips. It happens all the time.

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