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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:56 GMT
#1301
On December 18 2012 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:53 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I'm just curious as to why hapahauli is vouching so hard for cheeseflake when no one else has ever vouched this hard for another person.

Furthermore, I fail to see why we would listen to him given that hapahauli is the only one to change his character profile 4 times (next highest being 0) and he has a scumslip to his name claiming that he is scum...

What more is needed?


I'm not vouching for him. I'm stating that I don't have enough evidence to think he's scum.

On December 18 2012 07:48 MrZentor wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-


Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around.


I don't care whether somebody is pro town or not.

I care whether they're town or scum.

And Eywa is town.


I need to calm down. I'll be back in a bit.

yet you have more evidence for Jie Xian? lol... you're obviously scum.


Yes you piece of shit. I have plenty of evidence for JieXian if you ever bothered to read you dumbfuck.

+ Show Spoiler [hapa] +
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hapascama
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 17 2012 22:56 GMT
#1302
This is getting intense.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
December 17 2012 23:00 GMT
#1303
Let's keep it relatively civil, ladies and gentlemen.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 17 2012 23:01 GMT
#1304
##Vote Eywa

Doesn't even take time to read a case.
Town atmosphere = shit
constructive discussion = 0
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 17 2012 23:02 GMT
#1305
That's so unsportsmanlike to shit up the thread like this
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 23:05 GMT
#1306
*deep breath*

So Regarding JieXian:
He's simply not voting for people that he thinks is mafia. This post proves it:
On December 17 2012 05:53 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:42 JieXian wrote:
shit

it was about the acoltye = townie not a scumslip thing

morbid is a bad idea I'm down for a mrcc lynch

On December 17 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 03:49 JieXian wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hey guys, shenanigans here being sorted out. I'm down for a Thrawn lynch, he's a sheeping scummy dude right meow.

Thrawn is an Opportunist
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 15 2012 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok

##Vote Djodref

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote:
Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.



what kind of information are you looking for?


Sheep on Djodref vote, hardcore. No explanation, just does it. Also, the question he asks is self-explanatory.

On December 15 2012 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't th9nk hapa's case was super good but dp's reaction to it seems insane


Slightly discredits Hapa's case, and takes the opportunity to acknowledge that DP looks scummy after an OMGUS vote (duh). He then unvotes to keep his options open. When Hapa makes his more fortified case, he suddenly believes it's some god-given scumhunting then votes for DP.

Wait, What's this?


On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons

1. start of the game and everyone is lurking
2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics



Didn't Thrawn VOTE for Djo based on this exact thing? He was being obsessed with blue roles / witchhunter and Thrawn sheeped the vote, supposedly because of this. Now he thinks it's not fair to accuse him?

On December 16 2012 10:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh sniped on the random lurker vote lol, sounds fun

##unvote
##Vote: Mr Cheesecake


pie is better
and all you mo-fos need to start posting


Sheeps onto lurker vote opportunity. Underlined = scummiest shit ever townies like cheesecake over pie.

On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok here's what I probably mean about kush...

you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.

he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town.


PROBABLY mean? What? How do you probably mean something...? Town mean things genuinely, scum try to emulate they are meaning something. The rest of this post is garbage--he comes to no read on Kush at all, just flip-flops between the possibility of town kush not wanting to lynch him and the alternative scum motivation.


Above all, Thrawn doesn't seem to care who is lynched:

On December 15 2012 11:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
this conversation between the few of us is getting very tiresome

i'll lynch lurkers

LURKERS

i will happily lynch you


Okay so he wants to lynch a lurker. By all means, a viable strategy considering the circumstance. But he also wants to lynch Djo, JX, DP... I'm confused. I don't see strong scum reads from him other than on JX due to obvious scumslips. He is sheeping a ton and doesn't seem too caring of who he wants to get lynched.

Just look at this flip-floppiness between lurker lynching and lynching his top scumread.

On December 16 2012 20:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
I suggest all town people be around during the lynch if (when?) we decide to lynch a rando lurker

Maybe we could lynch a lurker! That sounds like a good idea!

On December 16 2012 20:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
i still really really like it

But I still really really like a JX lynch!

On December 16 2012 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
but who knows, perhaps some lurker will die instead

But maybe we could lynch a lurker! I'm all for that!

Why is Thrawn so indecisive?

On December 16 2012 14:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote:
I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post.

I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on)


no this is a lie

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:
Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk

At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. but i think he's town because x

Later I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot. but now i think he's town because x

Djo why did you vote for Mr Zentor


But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another

##Vote MrZentor


the red parts are what I just now added to the 2nd post that would make the 1st post true. I bolded "but above all" because that implies you still hold your suspicions about hapa/dp.

J scum-slipped hard, he lied about the scumslip, he's a lurker... and he's scum


He states JX is scum. THEN WHY IS HE KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN LIKE THIS? Town Thrawn would want to push this JX lynch into the ground, not be ready to jump off the wagon at the last minute to lynch a lurker.

Thrawn's general posting in context of the thread seems very opportunistic. The way he jumps on JX's vote post of Mr.Z is just that, scum trying to find easy things to tackle people on. I have no clue, if town, why he's willing to lynch a lurker right now if he's set on JX being scum.



##Vote: Thrawn


On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote:
we really need a vote count...
We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch.
Who are teh viable lynches at this point?
Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker?


Yes we need a vote count.

I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers?


On December 17 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:


read my filter please, I'm still waiting for his reply



On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you.


So you posted your long wall of text case against thrawn for shits and giggles?

I get it


Jx, you're really paranoid.

If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why.


WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING THRAWN NOW THEN?


BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRO, WHAT U WANT FROM ME.

If anyone else wants to vote thrawn, please do so.


Ok join me

#Vote thrawn2122

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
REPOST:

Just scanned Morbidius's filter. I wouldn't mind lynching him. There was the pre-emptive defensiveness that MrZ brought up earlier, as well as this:

On December 17 2012 04:29 Morbidius wrote:
On December 17 2012 04:16 MrZentor wrote:
Kush, I'd rather lynch scum than a lurker.

We should kill Morbidius.

Hmm i made some light accusations against you and now you're full on calling me scum? That's quite the overeaction,which certainly doesn't help your case. I already had in mind the fact that you're either very noob town or noobish mafia. Either way a flip is worth more than you.
##unvote
##vote MrZentor


Justifying lynching a "noob town." I don't think these things are 100% allignment indicative, but it's certainly scummy and the best chance we have for a red flip IMO.


if MrZ was town he was playing noob enough for me to go nuts for him


He doesn't have a scumread on thrawn. By his own admission, he voted thrawn to "dare" Mr. CC to vote thrawn.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=42#834
He NEVER has a scumread on thrawn in his filter. He straight up voted a guy who his top scumread was pushing. Where's the town motivation in that? There is none.

Then we get to the "hapa's scum 'cause he's not dead" stuff.
On December 18 2012 02:37 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 02:31 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 02:27 JieXian wrote:
On December 18 2012 02:22 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 02:17 JieXian wrote:
On December 18 2012 01:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 18 2012 01:52 Eywa- wrote:
I'd like to talk about witchcraft votes... Shall we?

Let's pile some votes onto any of this trio and see if they die... Should be a pretty clear indicator right?


How do you know the witchhunter didn't shoot twice already?


because hapa's alive


So I'm town. Lol.


because scum can't get shot by scum vigis...............

???????????????????


No see that doesn't make much sense. Why would me being alive explain how you know scum didn't take a second shot?


beacuse it would have been for the next top witchcraft candidate

ie you?

On December 18 2012 02:40 JieXian wrote:
who's townier than you?

no one


He harps many times about how I'm the only other possible witchcraft candidate in the game. But...
On December 18 2012 03:03 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 03:01 MrZentor wrote:
Kush, Eywa,and JieXian, did you guys vote for Hapa?


eywa and I certainly didn't


He didn't vote me. This makes no sense. Apparently there were other viable candidates (the ones he voted), yet he believes I was the only other possible one.

JieXian is scum. His actions make no sense.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 17 2012 23:06 GMT
#1307
Yet again, people are voting based on whether somebody is pro town or not.

Whether somebody is actually scum seems totally irrelevant when deciding who to kill.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 23:06 GMT
#1308
This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 23:11 GMT
#1309
On December 18 2012 08:06 MrZentor wrote:
Yet again, people are voting based on whether somebody is pro town or not.

Whether somebody is actually scum seems totally irrelevant when deciding who to kill.


Yeah, but I think he has a chance at flipping scum. Hell it's tempting to lynch him on the basis that the town would be better off without him.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 23:12 GMT
#1310
On December 18 2012 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok.

actually that's false as proven by my post about him, he clearly voted for someone he didn't think was scum last time since no one would vote for his suspect.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 23:13 GMT
#1311
And I'm not sure why you think he's town. He's just being confrontational. He's not providing analysis, he's not doing much of anything. He's just mudslinging. It's very easy for mafia to sit and spam "OMG HE"S SCUM SCUM SCUM." That's exactly what Eywa is doing. How many people has he called scum in the past 10 minutes? 5... 6...?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 23:13 GMT
#1312
On December 18 2012 08:06 MrZentor wrote:
Yet again, people are voting based on whether somebody is pro town or not.

Whether somebody is actually scum seems totally irrelevant when deciding who to kill.

It's the nature of the game, people will lynch those who actually guess right because they don't conform (scum do it because they'd be dead otherwise).
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 23:13 GMT
#1313
On December 18 2012 08:12 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok.

actually that's false as proven by my post about him, he clearly voted for someone he didn't think was scum last time since no one would vote for his suspect.


Last post on JieXian or on CC?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 23:15 GMT
#1314
On December 18 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:
And I'm not sure why you think he's town. He's just being confrontational. He's not providing analysis, he's not doing much of anything. He's just mudslinging. It's very easy for mafia to sit and spam "OMG HE"S SCUM SCUM SCUM." That's exactly what Eywa is doing. How many people has he called scum in the past 10 minutes? 5... 6...?

1, only mister cheesecake.

Your constant trying to defend him without being able to counter any argument I brought about him simply means you're not thinking analytically or are scum, which is a problem. Either option is still open... I've stuck on two people all game because I sincerely think they're scum... Now stop lying about me to make a case.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 23:16 GMT
#1315
On December 18 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:12 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok.

actually that's false as proven by my post about him, he clearly voted for someone he didn't think was scum last time since no one would vote for his suspect.


Last post on JieXian or on CC?

On CC, I don't think Jie Xian is scum... He's saved too many townspeople or attempted to.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 23:18 GMT
#1316
I'm going to assume your post on JieXian. The problem is that you're holding some non-sensical and arbitrary double-standard, where JieXian is allowed to vote for whoever he wants because his top scumread is "never getting lynched", but CC on the other hand is scum for voting Morbidius when his own top scumread (thrawn) has no chance of getting lynched.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 23:18 GMT
#1317
On December 18 2012 08:01 Djodref wrote:
##Vote Eywa

Doesn't even take time to read a case.
Town atmosphere = shit
constructive discussion = 0

On the contrary, all evidence I've presented has been ignored with false claims being made that I had presented none... Given that you should be voting for yourself (since you ignored both cases I made).
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 23:19 GMT
#1318
On December 18 2012 08:16 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:12 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok.

actually that's false as proven by my post about him, he clearly voted for someone he didn't think was scum last time since no one would vote for his suspect.


Last post on JieXian or on CC?

On CC, I don't think Jie Xian is scum... He's saved too many townspeople or attempted to.


A half-assed attempt to save a townie is not grounds to believe someone is town. It's really easy (and common) for mafia to defend townies they know will hang. They know townies allignment - it's a riskless play for mafia since they know they'll be right.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 23:20 GMT
#1319
On December 18 2012 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm going to assume your post on JieXian. The problem is that you're holding some non-sensical and arbitrary double-standard, where JieXian is allowed to vote for whoever he wants because his top scumread is "never getting lynched", but CC on the other hand is scum for voting Morbidius when his own top scumread (thrawn) has no chance of getting lynched.

Wrong, You think that CC actually thought Morb was guilty, on the contrary, he publicly stated otherwise.

Also wrong thinking I have a double standard, I don't mind killing jie xian given that there is a potential of him being scum, but I won't do so until I check my hypothesis about cheesegrater.

All of your claims about me are proven false, yet you still make them... I don't understand where your logic spurs from.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 23:21 GMT
#1320
You believe in some magical mafia world where townies are always right about things, and mafia are always pushing the wrong things. This is completely false. Perhaps amongst your friends this has some merit, but on TL this is simply not true.

Townies are often wrong. Townies don't know allignments. They push emotional mislynches, are easily maniuplated... etc. Scum on the other hand know exactly who's town and who's not. It's really fucking easy for them to defend a townie and claim town cred for it when the townie flips. It happens all the time.
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