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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 22:43 GMT
#1281
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-


Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:43 GMT
#1282
I mean, everyone is acting as though I'm playing on an entirely selfish bases, you couldn't be more wrong. Hapa is attacking me despite my willingness to accept the possibility he may be innocent. I have yet to vote for hapa this round.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:44 GMT
#1283
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-


Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around.

You didn't read my post about cheeserake.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 22:45 GMT
#1284
The one case he's posted is against Mr. CC, with which he qualified with this statement:

On December 18 2012 06:08 Eywa- wrote:
...
Let's just lynch him because we can! Who gives a flying #$%@ if he's town or not...


The other time he posted a case (against me), he called me town. It's easy to post and fling shit around and call everyone scum without substance. It's exactly what he's doing right now, and he's going to die for it.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:45 GMT
#1285
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-

I wouldn't expect you to... As you can see, that is not the basis for my character.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 22:46 GMT
#1286
On December 18 2012 07:44 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-


Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around.

You didn't read my post about cheeserake.


When you end a case with this, I don't have to read it:

On December 18 2012 06:08 Eywa- wrote:
...
Let's just lynch him because we can! Who gives a flying #$%@ if he's town or not...
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:46 GMT
#1287
On December 18 2012 07:45 Hapahauli wrote:
The one case he's posted is against Mr. CC, with which he qualified with this statement:

Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 06:08 Eywa- wrote:
...
Let's just lynch him because we can! Who gives a flying #$%@ if he's town or not...


The other time he posted a case (against me), he called me town. It's easy to post and fling shit around and call everyone scum without substance. It's exactly what he's doing right now, and he's going to die for it.

Actually that statement was referencing the last quotation which was part of that post.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 17 2012 22:47 GMT
#1288
On December 18 2012 07:43 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:37 MrZentor wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:32 DoYouHas wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:26 MrZentor wrote:
DYH, your case is bad.

Scum would have tried to shoot Hapa before DP.

And your whole case is based on that not being true.


Wrong, your case is based on that assumption being true, mine is not. My case is based on you pushing a strategy that would reveal whether hapa is blue or not when he is still potentially in danger of being silver shot. My case is based on acknowledging that you don't know exactly how scum are operating, which you clearly don't, because you want to lynch hapa.


If Hapa was town, then Mafia wouldn't have any silver bullets left. It's pretty simple, and the reasoning behind it is solid. If he were truly a blue, then he would have nothing to fear from the witch hunter.

Anyways, originally, my plan was going to reveal if Hapa were scum or not; I had a null read on him.

And then Hapa started acting really scummy. Like REALLY scummy.

So no, my read on Hapa isn't all based on that assumption being true. In fact, it isn't based on that assumption at all, as my plan didn't succeed, and we didn't gain any information from it.


What? Again, the only way your plan works is if your assumptions hold true, yes, they aren't bad assumptions, I never said they weren't but they aren't the ONLY valid assumptions. What you just said boils down to, hapa was either vanilla or elected scum, I was trying to figure out which. This is exactly my point. What you did leaves no room for your assumption being wrong.


No, there are a lot of things Hapa could be. The reason I was focused on elected scum is that that was a really easy way to catch him and prove he was scum.

And he had a good chance of being elected, regardless of his alignment, so there would be a decent chance of him being elected scum.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:47 GMT
#1289
On December 18 2012 07:46 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:44 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-


Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around.

You didn't read my post about cheeserake.


When you end a case with this, I don't have to read it:

Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 06:08 Eywa- wrote:
...
Let's just lynch him because we can! Who gives a flying #$%@ if he's town or not...

If you had read it, you'd see that the format was

Reason he's scum

Evidence

Joke at his expense relating to the evidence
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 17 2012 22:48 GMT
#1290
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-


Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around.


I don't care whether somebody is pro town or not.

I care whether they're town or scum.

And Eywa is town.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 17 2012 22:50 GMT
#1291
Hello guys !
Sorry I couldn't wake up for the deadline, I have to catch up but here is the case I promised
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 22:50 GMT
#1292
Oh you're totes right on that. That's mah bad on the misreading.

Still, him wanting to get someone lynched does not make him scum. A no-lynch is worse than lynching a townie. That is not my opinion: that is fact. A no-lynch deprives town of valuable information. Lynching someone that has a chance to flip scum is always the better play.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:50 GMT
#1293
I'm just curious as to why hapahauli is vouching so hard for cheeseflake when no one else has ever vouched this hard for another person.

Furthermore, I fail to see why we would listen to him given that hapahauli is the only one to change his character profile 4 times (next highest being 0) and he has a scumslip to his name claiming that he is scum...

What more is needed?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 17 2012 22:50 GMT
#1294


Kush



What a scummer !



My case here boils down to the following main points. Let's have a look at Kush's behavior in this game.
  • Kush is shying away from discussion when it starts to look bad for him
  • Kush is defending Eywa
  • Kush is acting dumb on purpose



Part I --- Flying away !



On December 15 2012 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:27 kushm4sta wrote:
"in not retarded I'm town"
-djo

does that strike anyone else as an intensely scummy thing to say? not sure why but i read it and my scumsenses went off the charts.


Actually kush, talk to me about that a bit. What about it would you see as scummy?


Did Kush ever answered this question ? Not at all...

On December 16 2012 13:49 Djodref wrote:
@ Kush

If you are around, I want you to address my case.
I'm really interested in your stance on me right now


Did he address my case+ Show Spoiler [My case against Kush] +
On December 16 2012 13:32 Djodref wrote:


Kushm4sta



Kush <3




Kush is notoriously hard to read and an easy mislynch, but they are some things that concerns me in his posts so far.
The first thing, of course, is that he is going after me in a very nit-picky way. He is attacking me for one post that he takes totally out of context. That could totally be a scum kush scanning filters to look for something scummy.
Let's take a look.


Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:27 kushm4sta wrote:
"in not retarded I'm town"
-djo

does that strike anyone else as an intensely scummy thing to say? not sure why but i read it and my scumsenses went off the charts.


Totally taken out of the context here. At least he quotes the whole sentence in the next post, but still failed to note that I was answering to Hapa and DP at that time.

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
*snip*
My biggest scumread so far is djodref. I'm not going to make a big case because it's mostly a feel read at this point honestly.
On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't

what's really going on in this post is he is making it clear that the reason he brought up the witchcraft votes in the first place was because he thought it was something town would do, and he brought it up not because he cared but because he thought it would make him look town.

The other part of my suspicion is how he reacted under pressure. in the last game I played with him he was town. There was a similar early bandwagon and he seemed like he didn't really give a shit. This game he responded to the bandwagon very attentively. Making lists and responding to everyone.
His vote on hapa looked like a panic vote.
*snip*


I brought it up because it was clear for me at that time that Hapa and DP didn't read the part about the witchcraft votes in the OP. I've explained it already when he posted this. So he totally discards the context of this post one more time.
For the pressure thing, it's kind of true, but I have been mislynched in the NMM XIX game for not giving a shit about people going after me for bad reasons. So, yeah, I care more about my defense now.
I don't understand were he comes from when saying that my vote on Hapa is a panic vote. That's just bs.


The other thing is that Kush has shown an anti-town mentality.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 10:27 kushm4sta wrote:
town for the millionth time in a row.
my rules this game:

1. I will never vote thrawn no matter how scummy he looks. I've been certain and wrong too many times. and I have to live with th regret every day of my life.
*snip*
3. I am going to advocate the systematic extermination of lurkers. Yup I want to lynch unreadables over scmreads. And lurking makes you unreadable and immune to all efforts at scumhunting.
Fuck fake pressuring active people.by pretending we might vote them. IF there is a lurker I will push his lynch.


Never voting someone, no matter how scummy he looks...
Lynching lurkers over scumreads...
That's anti-town, but kush is also quite non-sensical, so I'm not sure what to do with that.

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 05:48 kushm4sta wrote:
Yup that's my rule for this game. kill lurkers before scumreads


At least he is consistent with his rule. Oh wait ! he is being called for it and then...

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 11:14 kushm4sta wrote:
*snip*

So when you look at it, the lurker issue really isn't that bad this game.
So thrawn, when you say lurkers are making this game "unplayable" that is kinda bs.


WTF ! This lurker issue is very concerning this game. I don't understand how he could not stick to his rule now !



So, all in all, I'm leaning scum on Kush, but it's a weak read because he is could have done these posts as town as well.

? I don't think so...

On December 17 2012 11:44 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 11:33 kushm4sta wrote:
so this is ewyas first forum gameright? and knowing that you actually still think he's scum? I looked at filter and he looks pretty obvtown to me.

djo is scum...more tomorrow.
hapa or thrawn one of those is prob scum.
one of the more quiet lurker people, one of those is probably scum.. I'm thinking dhs maybe jx.


@ Kush

Right now, I have you as either eywa's scum buddy hard defending him, either you going totally pants on head.
I'm leaning over the first solution right now.

Please make your case against me so I can see how full of shit you are.


Did he ever make a case against me while stating many times that I was his scumread ? No...

And Kush is now officially announcing that he is taking his holidays in the scumQT now that he is totally caught in the same bed with Eywa.

On December 17 2012 19:24 kushm4sta wrote:
who would use masonry that sounds like total shit compared to the others...
guess what. all activity I promised tomorrow is hereby postponed until Tuesday. Sorry.




Part II --- Defending Eywa



This part works regardless of Eywa alignment, but of course it is going to be even better if Eywa flips scum.
How could Kush hard defend Eywa so strongly ? What did Eywa do to convince him that he is town ?
I don't know, and kush didn't ever say why he thinks that Eywa is town (the newbie excuse doesn't count in my view).

Moreover, kush has already been caught scumslipping like Eywa did in the NMM XXIII game. That was almost exactly the same circumstances. How could have he forgotten it ?
He is being a total hypocrite in taking Eywa's defense. I think he is trying to defend a scumbuddy (scum kush is rather obvious) or trying to get town cred by defending a townie in the improbable case where Eywa flips town.

Please also notice how he is dismissing Hapa's case to concentrate on the scumslip only.

On another note, it's not like his scum read was attacking Eywa with a biased case. Hapa, the "strongest town", in his own words (scumslipping much ?), is pushing a good case against Eywa. How could he be so certain that Eywa is town ? The answer is simple: town kush wouldn't, it's just that we have here scum kush. Scum kush defending scum Eywa, most probably.

And I think Kush was also scumslipping here.

On December 17 2012 01:51 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.

That is a scumhunting strategy. He is pressuring people.
For that reason you want to lynch the strongest town in this game?


There was not a single mention of a possible town Hapa before this post. The previous mention of Hapa in kush's filter is here.

On December 16 2012 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
*snip*
Hapa... I am concerned with this guy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he has a really good feel for dps meta and has caught scum dp many times. But I found his case on dp really underwhelming and reaching.
And then he drops the tunnel because of something he read irc...really?
*snip*




Part III --- Dumb on purpose



I don't want to comment these posts in details. Just make yourself your own opinion about it.

On December 17 2012 14:32 kushm4sta wrote:
Exhibit A: Ewya's alleged scumslip
Show nested quote +
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.

Exhibit B: In which Ewya says im town
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 11:46 Eywa- wrote:
Any scum would have to be out of their mind to side with me right now given how hot of a target I am... I don't see how it can help them... Kush is a civilian (but of course, you can lynch him too given that civilians seem to want to lose around here).


This is just one of many examples of his use of the word citizen.
Ewya says CITIZEN when he means town and TOWNIE when he means player.

Remember this is his first forum mafia game. The only experience he has had is IRL mafia.


So untrue...

On December 16 2012 13:55 kushm4sta wrote:
@djodref have you ever made a mega case as town?
Why did you feel to make THREE mega cases at this stage in the game?


Because I'm town you dumbass...

On December 16 2012 11:14 kushm4sta wrote:
*snip*
2 of the lurkers look like they are just gonna get straight up replaced -
Eywa
Mr cheesecake
so we probably dont have to worry about them.

Morbidus looks like he's starting to participate more now.
JieXian has put pressure on Mr Zentor, who actually has virtually no content

Threesr might be replaced he is doing so little. If he's not replaced I'm gonna be worried.
Mr. Zentor is the scariest lurker for me right now.

So when you look at it, the lurker issue really isn't that bad this game.
So thrawn, when you say lurkers are making this game "unplayable" that is kinda bs.


Lurker issue really isn't that bad this game ? For real ?

On December 16 2012 05:48 kushm4sta wrote:
Yup that's my rule for this game. kill lurkers before scumreads


Ah, nevermind...


Conclusion



Kush is most certainly scum

I still do prefer a Eywa lynch for tomorrow. Because, yeah, kush being kush, there is still a small chance for him to be town. 1% town chance for Eywa right now, 5% town chance for Kush.

GG guys,

Y u no concede ?
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:51 GMT
#1295
On December 18 2012 07:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh you're totes right on that. That's mah bad on the misreading.

Still, him wanting to get someone lynched does not make him scum. A no-lynch is worse than lynching a townie. That is not my opinion: that is fact. A no-lynch deprives town of valuable information. Lynching someone that has a chance to flip scum is always the better play.

Your argument is silly, no-lynch means 1 dead, lynch means 2 dead... How is faster depleting the town in any way good? You claim to be good at this game, but are incapable of comprehending the most basic scenarios.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 22:52 GMT
#1296
On December 18 2012 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I'm just curious as to why hapahauli is vouching so hard for cheeseflake when no one else has ever vouched this hard for another person.

Furthermore, I fail to see why we would listen to him given that hapahauli is the only one to change his character profile 4 times (next highest being 0) and he has a scumslip to his name claiming that he is scum...

What more is needed?


I'm not vouching for him. I'm stating that I don't have enough evidence to think he's scum.

On December 18 2012 07:48 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-


Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around.


I don't care whether somebody is pro town or not.

I care whether they're town or scum.

And Eywa is town.


I need to calm down. I'll be back in a bit.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:52 GMT
#1297
On December 18 2012 07:50 Djodref wrote:


Kush



What a scummer !



My case here boils down to the following main points. Let's have a look at Kush's behavior in this game.
  • Kush is shying away from discussion when it starts to look bad for him
  • Kush is defending Eywa
  • Kush is acting dumb on purpose



Part I --- Flying away !



Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:27 kushm4sta wrote:
"in not retarded I'm town"
-djo

does that strike anyone else as an intensely scummy thing to say? not sure why but i read it and my scumsenses went off the charts.


Actually kush, talk to me about that a bit. What about it would you see as scummy?


Did Kush ever answered this question ? Not at all...

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 13:49 Djodref wrote:
@ Kush

If you are around, I want you to address my case.
I'm really interested in your stance on me right now


Did he address my case+ Show Spoiler [My case against Kush] +
On December 16 2012 13:32 Djodref wrote:


Kushm4sta



Kush <3




Kush is notoriously hard to read and an easy mislynch, but they are some things that concerns me in his posts so far.
The first thing, of course, is that he is going after me in a very nit-picky way. He is attacking me for one post that he takes totally out of context. That could totally be a scum kush scanning filters to look for something scummy.
Let's take a look.


Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:27 kushm4sta wrote:
"in not retarded I'm town"
-djo

does that strike anyone else as an intensely scummy thing to say? not sure why but i read it and my scumsenses went off the charts.


Totally taken out of the context here. At least he quotes the whole sentence in the next post, but still failed to note that I was answering to Hapa and DP at that time.

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
*snip*
My biggest scumread so far is djodref. I'm not going to make a big case because it's mostly a feel read at this point honestly.
On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't

what's really going on in this post is he is making it clear that the reason he brought up the witchcraft votes in the first place was because he thought it was something town would do, and he brought it up not because he cared but because he thought it would make him look town.

The other part of my suspicion is how he reacted under pressure. in the last game I played with him he was town. There was a similar early bandwagon and he seemed like he didn't really give a shit. This game he responded to the bandwagon very attentively. Making lists and responding to everyone.
His vote on hapa looked like a panic vote.
*snip*


I brought it up because it was clear for me at that time that Hapa and DP didn't read the part about the witchcraft votes in the OP. I've explained it already when he posted this. So he totally discards the context of this post one more time.
For the pressure thing, it's kind of true, but I have been mislynched in the NMM XIX game for not giving a shit about people going after me for bad reasons. So, yeah, I care more about my defense now.
I don't understand were he comes from when saying that my vote on Hapa is a panic vote. That's just bs.


The other thing is that Kush has shown an anti-town mentality.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 10:27 kushm4sta wrote:
town for the millionth time in a row.
my rules this game:

1. I will never vote thrawn no matter how scummy he looks. I've been certain and wrong too many times. and I have to live with th regret every day of my life.
*snip*
3. I am going to advocate the systematic extermination of lurkers. Yup I want to lynch unreadables over scmreads. And lurking makes you unreadable and immune to all efforts at scumhunting.
Fuck fake pressuring active people.by pretending we might vote them. IF there is a lurker I will push his lynch.


Never voting someone, no matter how scummy he looks...
Lynching lurkers over scumreads...
That's anti-town, but kush is also quite non-sensical, so I'm not sure what to do with that.

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On December 16 2012 05:48 kushm4sta wrote:
Yup that's my rule for this game. kill lurkers before scumreads


At least he is consistent with his rule. Oh wait ! he is being called for it and then...

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On December 16 2012 11:14 kushm4sta wrote:
*snip*

So when you look at it, the lurker issue really isn't that bad this game.
So thrawn, when you say lurkers are making this game "unplayable" that is kinda bs.


WTF ! This lurker issue is very concerning this game. I don't understand how he could not stick to his rule now !



So, all in all, I'm leaning scum on Kush, but it's a weak read because he is could have done these posts as town as well.

? I don't think so...

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On December 17 2012 11:44 Djodref wrote:
On December 17 2012 11:33 kushm4sta wrote:
so this is ewyas first forum gameright? and knowing that you actually still think he's scum? I looked at filter and he looks pretty obvtown to me.

djo is scum...more tomorrow.
hapa or thrawn one of those is prob scum.
one of the more quiet lurker people, one of those is probably scum.. I'm thinking dhs maybe jx.


@ Kush

Right now, I have you as either eywa's scum buddy hard defending him, either you going totally pants on head.
I'm leaning over the first solution right now.

Please make your case against me so I can see how full of shit you are.


Did he ever make a case against me while stating many times that I was his scumread ? No...

And Kush is now officially announcing that he is taking his holidays in the scumQT now that he is totally caught in the same bed with Eywa.

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On December 17 2012 19:24 kushm4sta wrote:
who would use masonry that sounds like total shit compared to the others...
guess what. all activity I promised tomorrow is hereby postponed until Tuesday. Sorry.




Part II --- Defending Eywa



This part works regardless of Eywa alignment, but of course it is going to be even better if Eywa flips scum.
How could Kush hard defend Eywa so strongly ? What did Eywa do to convince him that he is town ?
I don't know, and kush didn't ever say why he thinks that Eywa is town (the newbie excuse doesn't count in my view).

Moreover, kush has already been caught scumslipping like Eywa did in the NMM XXIII game. That was almost exactly the same circumstances. How could have he forgotten it ?
He is being a total hypocrite in taking Eywa's defense. I think he is trying to defend a scumbuddy (scum kush is rather obvious) or trying to get town cred by defending a townie in the improbable case where Eywa flips town.

Please also notice how he is dismissing Hapa's case to concentrate on the scumslip only.

On another note, it's not like his scum read was attacking Eywa with a biased case. Hapa, the "strongest town", in his own words (scumslipping much ?), is pushing a good case against Eywa. How could he be so certain that Eywa is town ? The answer is simple: town kush wouldn't, it's just that we have here scum kush. Scum kush defending scum Eywa, most probably.

And I think Kush was also scumslipping here.

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On December 17 2012 01:51 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.

That is a scumhunting strategy. He is pressuring people.
For that reason you want to lynch the strongest town in this game?


There was not a single mention of a possible town Hapa before this post. The previous mention of Hapa in kush's filter is here.

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On December 16 2012 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
*snip*
Hapa... I am concerned with this guy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he has a really good feel for dps meta and has caught scum dp many times. But I found his case on dp really underwhelming and reaching.
And then he drops the tunnel because of something he read irc...really?
*snip*




Part III --- Dumb on purpose



I don't want to comment these posts in details. Just make yourself your own opinion about it.

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On December 17 2012 14:32 kushm4sta wrote:
Exhibit A: Ewya's alleged scumslip
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.

Exhibit B: In which Ewya says im town
On December 17 2012 11:46 Eywa- wrote:
Any scum would have to be out of their mind to side with me right now given how hot of a target I am... I don't see how it can help them... Kush is a civilian (but of course, you can lynch him too given that civilians seem to want to lose around here).


This is just one of many examples of his use of the word citizen.
Ewya says CITIZEN when he means town and TOWNIE when he means player.

Remember this is his first forum mafia game. The only experience he has had is IRL mafia.


So untrue...

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On December 16 2012 13:55 kushm4sta wrote:
@djodref have you ever made a mega case as town?
Why did you feel to make THREE mega cases at this stage in the game?


Because I'm town you dumbass...

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On December 16 2012 11:14 kushm4sta wrote:
*snip*
2 of the lurkers look like they are just gonna get straight up replaced -
Eywa
Mr cheesecake
so we probably dont have to worry about them.

Morbidus looks like he's starting to participate more now.
JieXian has put pressure on Mr Zentor, who actually has virtually no content

Threesr might be replaced he is doing so little. If he's not replaced I'm gonna be worried.
Mr. Zentor is the scariest lurker for me right now.

So when you look at it, the lurker issue really isn't that bad this game.
So thrawn, when you say lurkers are making this game "unplayable" that is kinda bs.


Lurker issue really isn't that bad this game ? For real ?

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On December 16 2012 05:48 kushm4sta wrote:
Yup that's my rule for this game. kill lurkers before scumreads


Ah, nevermind...


Conclusion



Kush is most certainly scum

I still do prefer a Eywa lynch for tomorrow. Because, yeah, kush being kush, there is still a small chance for him to be town. 1% town chance for Eywa right now, 5% town chance for Kush.

GG guys,

Y u no concede ?

So, you don't like Kush and Kush doesn't like you... blah blah blah.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 17 2012 22:53 GMT
#1298
On December 18 2012 07:52 Hapahauli wrote:
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On December 18 2012 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I'm just curious as to why hapahauli is vouching so hard for cheeseflake when no one else has ever vouched this hard for another person.

Furthermore, I fail to see why we would listen to him given that hapahauli is the only one to change his character profile 4 times (next highest being 0) and he has a scumslip to his name claiming that he is scum...

What more is needed?


I'm not vouching for him. I'm stating that I don't have enough evidence to think he's scum.

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On December 18 2012 07:48 MrZentor wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-


Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around.


I don't care whether somebody is pro town or not.

I care whether they're town or scum.

And Eywa is town.


I need to calm down. I'll be back in a bit.

yet you have more evidence for Jie Xian? lol... you're obviously scum.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 22:53 GMT
#1299
On December 18 2012 07:51 Eywa- wrote:
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On December 18 2012 07:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh you're totes right on that. That's mah bad on the misreading.

Still, him wanting to get someone lynched does not make him scum. A no-lynch is worse than lynching a townie. That is not my opinion: that is fact. A no-lynch deprives town of valuable information. Lynching someone that has a chance to flip scum is always the better play.

Your argument is silly, no-lynch means 1 dead, lynch means 2 dead... How is faster depleting the town in any way good? You claim to be good at this game, but are incapable of comprehending the most basic scenarios.


It's not silly. It's the truth. A mislynch is better than a no-lynch. Think about this - you're drawing all your reads from today based on voting patterns based on Morbidius's town flip. You'd have none of that without the flip.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 22:54 GMT
#1300
On December 18 2012 07:53 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I'm just curious as to why hapahauli is vouching so hard for cheeseflake when no one else has ever vouched this hard for another person.

Furthermore, I fail to see why we would listen to him given that hapahauli is the only one to change his character profile 4 times (next highest being 0) and he has a scumslip to his name claiming that he is scum...

What more is needed?


I'm not vouching for him. I'm stating that I don't have enough evidence to think he's scum.

On December 18 2012 07:48 MrZentor wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.

-.-


Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around.


I don't care whether somebody is pro town or not.

I care whether they're town or scum.

And Eywa is town.


I need to calm down. I'll be back in a bit.

yet you have more evidence for Jie Xian? lol... you're obviously scum.


Yes you piece of shit. I have plenty of evidence for JieXian if you ever bothered to read you dumbfuck.
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