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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote: I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town. -.- Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote: Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around. You didn't read my post about cheeserake. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 18 2012 06:08 Eywa- wrote: ... Let's just lynch him because we can! Who gives a flying #$%@ if he's town or not... The other time he posted a case (against me), he called me town. It's easy to post and fling shit around and call everyone scum without substance. It's exactly what he's doing right now, and he's going to die for it. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote: I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town. -.- I wouldn't expect you to... As you can see, that is not the basis for my character. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
When you end a case with this, I don't have to read it: On December 18 2012 06:08 Eywa- wrote: ... Let's just lynch him because we can! Who gives a flying #$%@ if he's town or not... | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:45 Hapahauli wrote: The one case he's posted is against Mr. CC, with which he qualified with this statement: The other time he posted a case (against me), he called me town. It's easy to post and fling shit around and call everyone scum without substance. It's exactly what he's doing right now, and he's going to die for it. Actually that statement was referencing the last quotation which was part of that post. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:43 DoYouHas wrote: What? Again, the only way your plan works is if your assumptions hold true, yes, they aren't bad assumptions, I never said they weren't but they aren't the ONLY valid assumptions. What you just said boils down to, hapa was either vanilla or elected scum, I was trying to figure out which. This is exactly my point. What you did leaves no room for your assumption being wrong. No, there are a lot of things Hapa could be. The reason I was focused on elected scum is that that was a really easy way to catch him and prove he was scum. And he had a good chance of being elected, regardless of his alignment, so there would be a decent chance of him being elected scum. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:46 Hapahauli wrote: When you end a case with this, I don't have to read it: If you had read it, you'd see that the format was Reason he's scum Evidence Joke at his expense relating to the evidence | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote: Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around. I don't care whether somebody is pro town or not. I care whether they're town or scum. And Eywa is town. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Sorry I couldn't wake up for the deadline, I have to catch up but here is the case I promised  | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Still, him wanting to get someone lynched does not make him scum. A no-lynch is worse than lynching a townie. That is not my opinion: that is fact. A no-lynch deprives town of valuable information. Lynching someone that has a chance to flip scum is always the better play. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
Furthermore, I fail to see why we would listen to him given that hapahauli is the only one to change his character profile 4 times (next highest being 0) and he has a scumslip to his name claiming that he is scum... What more is needed? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Kush What a scummer ! My case here boils down to the following main points. Let's have a look at Kush's behavior in this game.
Part I --- Flying away ! On December 15 2012 11:34 Hapahauli wrote: Actually kush, talk to me about that a bit. What about it would you see as scummy? Did Kush ever answered this question ? Not at all... On December 16 2012 13:49 Djodref wrote: @ Kush If you are around, I want you to address my case. I'm really interested in your stance on me right now  Did he address my case+ Show Spoiler [My case against Kush] + On December 16 2012 13:32 Djodref wrote: Kushm4sta Kush <3 Kush is notoriously hard to read and an easy mislynch, but they are some things that concerns me in his posts so far. The first thing, of course, is that he is going after me in a very nit-picky way. He is attacking me for one post that he takes totally out of context. That could totally be a scum kush scanning filters to look for something scummy. Let's take a look. Totally taken out of the context here. At least he quotes the whole sentence in the next post, but still failed to note that I was answering to Hapa and DP at that time. I brought it up because it was clear for me at that time that Hapa and DP didn't read the part about the witchcraft votes in the OP. I've explained it already when he posted this. So he totally discards the context of this post one more time. For the pressure thing, it's kind of true, but I have been mislynched in the NMM XIX game for not giving a shit about people going after me for bad reasons. So, yeah, I care more about my defense now. I don't understand were he comes from when saying that my vote on Hapa is a panic vote. That's just bs. The other thing is that Kush has shown an anti-town mentality. Never voting someone, no matter how scummy he looks... Lynching lurkers over scumreads... That's anti-town, but kush is also quite non-sensical, so I'm not sure what to do with that. At least he is consistent with his rule. Oh wait ! he is being called for it and then... WTF ! This lurker issue is very concerning this game. I don't understand how he could not stick to his rule now ! So, all in all, I'm leaning scum on Kush, but it's a weak read because he is could have done these posts as town as well. On December 17 2012 11:44 Djodref wrote: @ Kush Right now, I have you as either eywa's scum buddy hard defending him, either you going totally pants on head. I'm leaning over the first solution right now. Please make your case against me so I can see how full of shit you are. Did he ever make a case against me while stating many times that I was his scumread ? No... And Kush is now officially announcing that he is taking his holidays in the scumQT now that he is totally caught in the same bed with Eywa. On December 17 2012 19:24 kushm4sta wrote: who would use masonry that sounds like total shit compared to the others... guess what. all activity I promised tomorrow is hereby postponed until Tuesday. Sorry. Part II --- Defending Eywa This part works regardless of Eywa alignment, but of course it is going to be even better if Eywa flips scum. How could Kush hard defend Eywa so strongly ? What did Eywa do to convince him that he is town ? I don't know, and kush didn't ever say why he thinks that Eywa is town (the newbie excuse doesn't count in my view). Moreover, kush has already been caught scumslipping like Eywa did in the NMM XXIII game. That was almost exactly the same circumstances. How could have he forgotten it ? He is being a total hypocrite in taking Eywa's defense. I think he is trying to defend a scumbuddy (scum kush is rather obvious) or trying to get town cred by defending a townie in the improbable case where Eywa flips town. Please also notice how he is dismissing Hapa's case to concentrate on the scumslip only. On another note, it's not like his scum read was attacking Eywa with a biased case. Hapa, the "strongest town", in his own words (scumslipping much ?), is pushing a good case against Eywa. How could he be so certain that Eywa is town ? The answer is simple: town kush wouldn't, it's just that we have here scum kush. Scum kush defending scum Eywa, most probably. And I think Kush was also scumslipping here. On December 17 2012 01:51 kushm4sta wrote: That is a scumhunting strategy. He is pressuring people. For that reason you want to lynch the strongest town in this game? There was not a single mention of a possible town Hapa before this post. The previous mention of Hapa in kush's filter is here. On December 16 2012 01:23 kushm4sta wrote: *snip* Hapa... I am concerned with this guy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he has a really good feel for dps meta and has caught scum dp many times. But I found his case on dp really underwhelming and reaching. And then he drops the tunnel because of something he read irc...really? *snip* Part III --- Dumb on purpose I don't want to comment these posts in details. Just make yourself your own opinion about it. On December 17 2012 14:32 kushm4sta wrote: Exhibit A: Ewya's alleged scumslip Exhibit B: In which Ewya says im town This is just one of many examples of his use of the word citizen. Ewya says CITIZEN when he means town and TOWNIE when he means player. Remember this is his first forum mafia game. The only experience he has had is IRL mafia. So untrue... On December 16 2012 13:55 kushm4sta wrote: @djodref have you ever made a mega case as town? Why did you feel to make THREE mega cases at this stage in the game? Because I'm town you dumbass... On December 16 2012 11:14 kushm4sta wrote: *snip* 2 of the lurkers look like they are just gonna get straight up replaced - Eywa Mr cheesecake so we probably dont have to worry about them. Morbidus looks like he's starting to participate more now. JieXian has put pressure on Mr Zentor, who actually has virtually no content Threesr might be replaced he is doing so little. If he's not replaced I'm gonna be worried. Mr. Zentor is the scariest lurker for me right now. So when you look at it, the lurker issue really isn't that bad this game. So thrawn, when you say lurkers are making this game "unplayable" that is kinda bs. Lurker issue really isn't that bad this game ? For real ? On December 16 2012 05:48 kushm4sta wrote: Yup that's my rule for this game. kill lurkers before scumreads Ah, nevermind... Conclusion Kush is most certainly scum I still do prefer a Eywa lynch for tomorrow. Because, yeah, kush being kush, there is still a small chance for him to be town. 1% town chance for Eywa right now, 5% town chance for Kush. GG guys, Y u no concede ? | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:50 Hapahauli wrote: Oh you're totes right on that. That's mah bad on the misreading. Still, him wanting to get someone lynched does not make him scum. A no-lynch is worse than lynching a townie. That is not my opinion: that is fact. A no-lynch deprives town of valuable information. Lynching someone that has a chance to flip scum is always the better play. Your argument is silly, no-lynch means 1 dead, lynch means 2 dead... How is faster depleting the town in any way good? You claim to be good at this game, but are incapable of comprehending the most basic scenarios. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:50 Eywa- wrote: I'm just curious as to why hapahauli is vouching so hard for cheeseflake when no one else has ever vouched this hard for another person. Furthermore, I fail to see why we would listen to him given that hapahauli is the only one to change his character profile 4 times (next highest being 0) and he has a scumslip to his name claiming that he is scum... What more is needed? I'm not vouching for him. I'm stating that I don't have enough evidence to think he's scum. On December 18 2012 07:48 MrZentor wrote: I don't care whether somebody is pro town or not. I care whether they're town or scum. And Eywa is town. I need to calm down. I'll be back in a bit. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:50 Djodref wrote: Kush What a scummer ! My case here boils down to the following main points. Let's have a look at Kush's behavior in this game.
Part I --- Flying away ! Did Kush ever answered this question ? Not at all... Did he address my case+ Show Spoiler [My case against Kush] + On December 16 2012 13:32 Djodref wrote: Kushm4sta Kush <3 Kush is notoriously hard to read and an easy mislynch, but they are some things that concerns me in his posts so far. The first thing, of course, is that he is going after me in a very nit-picky way. He is attacking me for one post that he takes totally out of context. That could totally be a scum kush scanning filters to look for something scummy. Let's take a look. Totally taken out of the context here. At least he quotes the whole sentence in the next post, but still failed to note that I was answering to Hapa and DP at that time. I brought it up because it was clear for me at that time that Hapa and DP didn't read the part about the witchcraft votes in the OP. I've explained it already when he posted this. So he totally discards the context of this post one more time. For the pressure thing, it's kind of true, but I have been mislynched in the NMM XIX game for not giving a shit about people going after me for bad reasons. So, yeah, I care more about my defense now. I don't understand were he comes from when saying that my vote on Hapa is a panic vote. That's just bs. The other thing is that Kush has shown an anti-town mentality. Never voting someone, no matter how scummy he looks... Lynching lurkers over scumreads... That's anti-town, but kush is also quite non-sensical, so I'm not sure what to do with that. At least he is consistent with his rule. Oh wait ! he is being called for it and then... WTF ! This lurker issue is very concerning this game. I don't understand how he could not stick to his rule now ! So, all in all, I'm leaning scum on Kush, but it's a weak read because he is could have done these posts as town as well. Did he ever make a case against me while stating many times that I was his scumread ? No... And Kush is now officially announcing that he is taking his holidays in the scumQT now that he is totally caught in the same bed with Eywa. Part II --- Defending Eywa This part works regardless of Eywa alignment, but of course it is going to be even better if Eywa flips scum. How could Kush hard defend Eywa so strongly ? What did Eywa do to convince him that he is town ? I don't know, and kush didn't ever say why he thinks that Eywa is town (the newbie excuse doesn't count in my view). Moreover, kush has already been caught scumslipping like Eywa did in the NMM XXIII game. That was almost exactly the same circumstances. How could have he forgotten it ? He is being a total hypocrite in taking Eywa's defense. I think he is trying to defend a scumbuddy (scum kush is rather obvious) or trying to get town cred by defending a townie in the improbable case where Eywa flips town. Please also notice how he is dismissing Hapa's case to concentrate on the scumslip only. On another note, it's not like his scum read was attacking Eywa with a biased case. Hapa, the "strongest town", in his own words (scumslipping much ?), is pushing a good case against Eywa. How could he be so certain that Eywa is town ? The answer is simple: town kush wouldn't, it's just that we have here scum kush. Scum kush defending scum Eywa, most probably. And I think Kush was also scumslipping here. There was not a single mention of a possible town Hapa before this post. The previous mention of Hapa in kush's filter is here. Part III --- Dumb on purpose I don't want to comment these posts in details. Just make yourself your own opinion about it. So untrue... Because I'm town you dumbass... Lurker issue really isn't that bad this game ? For real ? Ah, nevermind... Conclusion Kush is most certainly scum I still do prefer a Eywa lynch for tomorrow. Because, yeah, kush being kush, there is still a small chance for him to be town. 1% town chance for Eywa right now, 5% town chance for Kush. GG guys, Y u no concede ? So, you don't like Kush and Kush doesn't like you... blah blah blah. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:52 Hapahauli wrote: I'm not vouching for him. I'm stating that I don't have enough evidence to think he's scum. I need to calm down. I'll be back in a bit. yet you have more evidence for Jie Xian? lol... you're obviously scum. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:51 Eywa- wrote: Your argument is silly, no-lynch means 1 dead, lynch means 2 dead... How is faster depleting the town in any way good? You claim to be good at this game, but are incapable of comprehending the most basic scenarios. It's not silly. It's the truth. A mislynch is better than a no-lynch. Think about this - you're drawing all your reads from today based on voting patterns based on Morbidius's town flip. You'd have none of that without the flip. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:53 Eywa- wrote: yet you have more evidence for Jie Xian? lol... you're obviously scum. Yes you piece of shit. I have plenty of evidence for JieXian if you ever bothered to read you dumbfuck. | ||
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