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MrZ, can we talk about JX? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816¤tpage=66#1306
If there's any contradiction in the thread regarding the whole "blue plan", it's JX. He says I'm the only other logical person to vote other than DP, then says he didn't vote me. This is wierd, because at the minimum, he'd have to vote DP and one other person he thinks is town. In his mind, the idea that "hapa is the only person who could be voted" shouldn't exist since he had to have voted another person.
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Just got back from work.
Lol @ Eywa's case, etc. Please someone give me a good reason why I should be lynched over him. He's an arrogant SOB that keeps spelling my name oddly just to be an ass. He keeps twisting my words around, scum tactic trying to find shit that isn't there. Hell, it's what I did in my first scum game against Djo, pushed his lynch calling him scum scum scum scumslip flipflopper scum until his lynch. He called it nitpicking and what have you. I can't help but believe that it's the same thing happening here; but I highly doubt anyone is going to believe this arrogance.
If Eywa is really town, he's the most anti-town I've ever seen.
I openly admit that I sheeped the morb Lynch -- no lynch worse than a lynch that can reveal scum / information.
If you're wondering why I lashed out and revealed who I voted for -- sorry, frustration. Not much I can say about that.
##Vote: Eywa
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@ CC
On December 18 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I do think we should just say exactly who we voted for. All three go right ahead.
Kush Hapa DP
there you go guys.
I'm just saying --- we can't know 100% that the witchhunter shot him. If you can't understand that, I'm sorry. It's LIKELY, but not definite.
It doesn't read like you're frustrated. Also, why would you reveal information that you've been adamant against revealing if you were frustrated?
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On December 18 2012 09:57 MrZentor wrote:But if How do we know that a scum won't try t acot like an helpful, active townie?
Are you talking about Hapa here ?
Because I don't see him pushing a scum agenda. I mean, okay, he could be playing a hell of a scum game. But there are so many players here being sooo scummy. Like Eywa, JieXan, Kush or even you with your attempts to out the blues. Did you read my case again Kush ? Not to mention Drazak or DYH that you don't even know what they are doing in this game.
Hapa is alsmost townie by elimination here.
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Basically, Hapa, people were trying to tell me that there was 100% chance that the witchhunter shot you. I was blowing up at people, saying that we didn't know that for sure.
On December 18 2012 02:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: This whole talk about blues / witchhunter shots is all a bunch of WIFOM right now, hardcore.
We can't know anything for sure.
On December 18 2012 02:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Or Mafia decided to wait to kill hapa, or maybe he didnt get the blue role.
Witchhunter can shoot at ANY time. It didn't have to be right then.
Seriously, so much fucking wifom.
On December 18 2012 02:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 02:36 MrZentor wrote:On December 18 2012 02:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Or Mafia decided to wait to kill hapa, or maybe he didnt get the blue role.
Witchhunter can shoot at ANY time. It didn't have to be right then.
Seriously, so much fucking wifom. 1. Mafia would have tried to shoot Hapa before DP. DP is dead, therefore if Hapa is town, mafia already tried to shoot him. 2. If he didn't get a blue role, there is no harm in us revealing our votes for him. omg so much wifom... How do you know the witchhunter even shot him??? Especially they shot him BEFORE DP???I already said I did vote for Hapa.
On December 18 2012 02:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:The witchhunter can fucking save his shot for later, I don't see the reasons they wouldn't do it. It's sure as hell causing a ton of conflict right now. We cannot be sure Hapa was even shot. We know the witchhunter can have one shot left, or none. Then why the fuck do you want to lynch him?
I was pretty frustrated because people were saying it was 100% totes mafia witchhunter shot you. I didn't like it. I just gave up and said "HERE'S WHO I VOTED FOR OMG" and left for work shortly thereafter.
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Well you missed your first reveal:
On December 18 2012 02:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I'll be honest Hapa, I voted for both you and DP. Kinda feel bad about DP... *sigh*
Which was : a) before all your ranting on the subject (posted above) b) not very "frustrated"
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Well me revealing i voted DP didn't matter - he was already dead.
Revealing I voted you was because everyone was talking about it. Impulse, perhaps. I don't know, I just revealed.
The latter reveal was more of a symbol of giving up if anything. (Why did I vote Kush? Lol)
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Remember dat VT claim? kinda same thing here except less pants on head more frustration.
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Who are your scumreads other than Eywa at this point?
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On December 18 2012 10:02 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 09:57 MrZentor wrote:But if We have no fucking way of knowing what scum would do or not do. How do we know that a scum won't try t acot like an helpful, active townie? Are you talking about Hapa here ? Because I don't see him pushing a scum agenda. I mean, okay, he could be playing a hell of a scum game. But there are so many players here being sooo scummy. Like Eywa, JieXan, Kush or even you with your attempts to out the blues. Did you read my case again Kush ? Not to mention Drazak or DYH that you don't even know what they are doing in this game. Hapa is alsmost townie by elimination here. If you're knowledgeable by experience, I weep for the future of humanity.
#unvote
#vote Eywa-
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@Hapa
In a way Eywa reminds me of Axle, except Axle was much, much more intelligent.
Hard to say my scumreads atm. I've got some townreads but I'd rather not go pants-on-head and reveal them. Gimme some time to catch up, I just had some finals + work
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Vote Count!
MrZentor (1) - DoYouHas Hapahauli (1) - MrZentor Eywa- (4) - Hapahauli, Djodref, Eywa-, Mr. Cheesecake
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Currently No-one is set to be lynched!
It is now Day 2. The Day ends in 44.5 hours at Wednesday, Dec 19 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Make sure to get your two witchcraft votes into Blazinghand and Keirathi by that time.
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Oh hm I never moved my vote from Eywa.
##unvote ##Vote JieXian
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On December 18 2012 10:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: @Hapa
In a way Eywa reminds me of Axle, except Axle was much, much more intelligent.
Hard to say my scumreads atm. I've got some townreads but I'd rather not go pants-on-head and reveal them. Gimme some time to catch up, I just had some finals + work
Eywa reminds you of a townie from a newbie game and you're voting him?
I mean I'm having lotsa reservations about Eywa. Like he's an asshole, he doesn't think, he doesn't read, and he doesn't analyze anything, but he is fearless, and does seem to think he's being pro-town in his own little world. I guess I"m having some trouble determining how easy it would be for him (as hypothetical mafia) to do what he's doing in the thread. Not much substance, but he fires off the responses almost instantly.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Vote Count!
MrZentor (1) - DoYouHas Hapahauli (1) - MrZentor Eywa- (3) - Djodref, Eywa-, Mr. Cheesecake JieXian (1) - Hapahauli
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Currently No-one is set to be lynched!
It is now Day 2. The Day ends in 44.5 hours at Wednesday, Dec 19 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Make sure to get your two witchcraft votes into Blazinghand and Keirathi by that time.
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@ DoYouHas
Get in here. Posting a case on MrZ and afk'ing is not acceptable play at this stage in the game. We need lotsa more posting from you.
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On December 18 2012 07:39 DoYouHas wrote: If MrZ was town he would have to at least acknowledge that his assumptions might be wrong. And if that possibility exists, then his actions only have a scum mindset. Any town making his assumptions could just as easily test them when hapa was out of danger. They would be no less convincing, even if we will be missing 2 more votes now.
MrZ was rolefishing, plain and simple.
Like this for example. I've played a bunch of games, coached a bunch of newbie games, and I have yet to see a mafia player "rolefishing." This is something that mafia are largely scared of doing as it draws attention to themselves. I can't see MrZ rolefishing this blatantly.
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Except Axle wasn't scummy at all, Hapa.
Maybe I'm OMGUSing here, but I really don't see a situation in which he's town. I'll try to rethink the situation, but if he's actually town, lolwut.
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