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FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 15:00:20
December 01 2011 14:59 GMT
#101
Without starting a fire. I dont understand why the FXO hate. Our players have choices and they make them. QXC is better off at coL because it suits his lifestyle and life. I told him to take the opportunity because it helps him as a person.

This was not a matter of "waa getting rid of foreign players".. Or "QXC doesnt have the drive".. He most certainly has the drive and want to be the best. But at the moment he needs the financial backing and relaxed environment which we cannot provide. So its best for him to go to coL.

I am still a huge qxc fan. And will always take the time to meet him at any events I am at and shake his hand. Because he is a great person.

I understand die hard fans and their attitudes, but no one deserves any shit for this transaction as your favourite player benefits 100% from it. Be happy he can continue to provide the entertainment that you crave. Rather than go around bashing people.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
December 01 2011 15:04 GMT
#102
qck still playing sc2?
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
December 01 2011 15:05 GMT
#103
Not too surprised by this move. QxC is fairly innactive due to his college and FXO want players who can be in Korea (correct me if i*m wrong).

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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 15:08:21
December 01 2011 15:07 GMT
#104
On December 01 2011 23:46 Anncoulpable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 23:30 HitMonkie wrote:
Good luck to QXC.

But Honestly, so many of the western players do not have the drive and ambition to become the best.

Everyone at FXO was given the opportunity to go train and live in korea but almost all declined and have since then left.

I know there are some cases when they just couldnt but most just didnt want too.

And I know that there are also players out there that if FXO had offered them the opportunity to go live and train fulltime in a Korean Training House. That they would be on the next flight there.

It is just disappointing that they do not want to take a great opportunity to become better players.



Not wanting to drop out of school or not wanting to pick up and move across the globe, leaving behind every person you know, your culture, and your language doesn't mean players don't have drive and ambition. It seems a little unfair to expect every person to be able to do what HuK or Jinro did. Moving to Korea has its perks, but it also has drawbacks that foreign players have to consider.

On topic, good luck to qxc at his new home!

Quoted for the fucking truth.

Sorry to say, but not being willing to leave behind your life and put your education on hold in order to move halfway across the world and train your ass off for the possibility that you might become a success in a scene where careers are short and only the top players make any decent amount of money is not lack of ambition or drive. It's being sensible and taking the long view.

So good luck to qxc, and I do hope to see him become active in the scene once again at some point.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 01 2011 15:09 GMT
#105
Well, so much for an international team now, there are hardly any foreigners left on FXO. It's kind of sad, actually, with FXO first going to Korea as the great foreign hope, and generally getting stomped in the GSTL and GSL, before buying out foU and slowly replacing its foreign players with Koreans.

Good luck QXC
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
December 01 2011 15:12 GMT
#106
Keep up the hard work QXC!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
December 01 2011 15:13 GMT
#107
On December 01 2011 23:59 FXOpen wrote:
Without starting a fire. I dont understand why the FXO hate. Our players have choices and they make them. QXC is better off at coL because it suits his lifestyle and life. I told him to take the opportunity because it helps him as a person.

This was not a matter of "waa getting rid of foreign players".. Or "QXC doesnt have the drive".. He most certainly has the drive and want to be the best. But at the moment he needs the financial backing and relaxed environment which we cannot provide. So its best for him to go to coL.

I am still a huge qxc fan. And will always take the time to meet him at any events I am at and shake his hand. Because he is a great person.

I understand die hard fans and their attitudes, but no one deserves any shit for this transaction as your favourite player benefits 100% from it. Be happy he can continue to provide the entertainment that you crave. Rather than go around bashing people.


This should be added to the OP.

So much negativity lately guys whats up?
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
December 01 2011 15:19 GMT
#108
Grats to Complexity and QXC! Should be a nice fit for them!

Good luck to FXO!!!
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
December 01 2011 15:24 GMT
#109
Damn, FXO. Making big moves.

Hope qxc is happy. FXO looks solid enough as it is.
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Ashes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States362 Posts
December 01 2011 15:28 GMT
#110
Good Luck yo. If not for his schooling thing, he would have been one of the famous foreigners in SC2. True potential right there. But hey once schooling is done, our man would be back. Go Go Bandana Terran ^^ . Nice pickup by Complexity, and hey its sort of a ROOT reunion. QXC, Catz, Drewbie, Minigun nice nice.. And they have Naniwa.....and not to forgot the entire MVP barrage.
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
December 01 2011 15:30 GMT
#111
On December 01 2011 19:56 Vuistgevecht wrote:
complexitys approach is quantity not quality apparently



Did you happen to watch this little thing called MLG Providence Winners Finals? How about Top 16 at Dreamhack (we had 3). I could go on.. I just don't understand some people. :/
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TheLaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States172 Posts
December 01 2011 15:35 GMT
#112
QXC best of luck to you man :D
Cowards die in shame.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
December 01 2011 15:39 GMT
#113
On December 02 2011 00:30 jlake02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 19:56 Vuistgevecht wrote:
complexitys approach is quantity not quality apparently



Did you happen to watch this little thing called MLG Providence Winners Finals? How about Top 16 at Dreamhack (we had 3). I could go on.. I just don't understand some people. :/


Dont feed the trolls Lake.
High Risk Low Reward
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 15:44:24
December 01 2011 15:44 GMT
#114
Gratz qxc! It does feel like Col would be a better home for you atm. Congratulations on Col getting a more solid team and good luck to both parties.
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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9162 Posts
December 01 2011 15:51 GMT
#115
good luck qxc!
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whereismymind
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom717 Posts
December 01 2011 15:53 GMT
#116
Nice I am happy for him! Kevin Riley if you read this, when you come to Nebraska again we will make you apple pie again! If you remember like last time Keep it up bro. Cya soon.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 16:01:44
December 01 2011 15:57 GMT
#117
Too bad for FXO. They used to have so much personality andamong the best in foreigner talent but now they're basically just a Korean team. At least with Complexity qxc can go back to Korea in the future when he's done studying.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
December 01 2011 16:09 GMT
#118
Go find CauthonLuck and Sheth next :D. Gogo root
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TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
December 01 2011 16:19 GMT
#119
Awesome news! Good luck to both QXC and Complexity in the future!!!
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Senros
Profile Joined May 2011
54 Posts
December 01 2011 16:20 GMT
#120
All we need now is Sheth, kiwi and slush and we've got the old gang back together!!
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