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On November 08 2011 15:15 Zidane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 14:37 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 08 2011 14:19 Lunaro wrote:On November 08 2011 13:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Redundant thread. People care way too much about Starcraft lol. Or maybe you guys just have too much time on your hands.
User was warned for this post Nice try Gus Ledezma LOL. Same thoughts- knew someone would point it out soon. Well played sir, well played hahahhahahhahaahhahhaha
fucking hivemind. this guy is pretty revolting. hopefully he won't have his hand in esports for some time
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I'm all in for off with his head.
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On November 08 2011 15:28 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 15:15 Zidane wrote:On November 08 2011 14:37 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 08 2011 14:19 Lunaro wrote:On November 08 2011 13:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Redundant thread. People care way too much about Starcraft lol. Or maybe you guys just have too much time on your hands.
User was warned for this post Nice try Gus Ledezma LOL. Same thoughts- knew someone would point it out soon. Well played sir, well played hahahhahahhahaahhahhaha fucking hivemind. this guy is pretty revolting. hopefully he won't have his hand in esports for some time
Is that really him?
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just from reading his facebook chat that guy seems like a fucking asshole
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On November 08 2011 15:32 Antisocialmunky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 15:28 Mortal wrote:On November 08 2011 15:15 Zidane wrote:On November 08 2011 14:37 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 08 2011 14:19 Lunaro wrote:On November 08 2011 13:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Redundant thread. People care way too much about Starcraft lol. Or maybe you guys just have too much time on your hands.
User was warned for this post Nice try Gus Ledezma LOL. Same thoughts- knew someone would point it out soon. Well played sir, well played hahahhahahhahaahhahhaha fucking hivemind. this guy is pretty revolting. hopefully he won't have his hand in esports for some time Is that really him?
well i personally don't have a way to prove whether it is or isn't, and i actually doubt it, but it may be one of his team members or something
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It would have been nice if you included a short paragraph summing everything up instead of just a bunch of links plus a mysterious conclusion.
Well, it's unfortunate that as young as e-sports is there are already crooks out there looking to make a quick buck. Hopefully this Gus guy gets what's coming to him.
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On November 08 2011 14:42 Toppp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 14:41 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:33 pdd wrote:
Not to be a white knight or anything, but Seltzer mentioned on the CSN stream chat that the HoN tourney will go on today. It was delayed yesterday due to the computer problems.
While I don't agree with some of his methods, I think I'm willing to give him a bit of a benefit of a doubt. And he needs to give a very good explanation of his actions. What reasons could he even possibly give to get out of this situation? Someone put a gun to his head and forced him to cancel sending YoonYJ and instead sending someone from AZK? His list of crimes are long and he has a history. There is absolutely no excuse and he's a hideous dirtbag. Anyone who defends him or befriends him risks being lumped together with him as a complete scumbag. I would reserve those words for someone like Hitler... but you know, using them on a crappy tournament organizer is fine too, I guess!
He's been accused of being a racist with his blatantly biased picks. He's a dirtbag and he's killing esports. Hitler is a terrible analogy i have no idea why you would even bring that up. What he's done is criminal with breaking contracts and anyone associated with him doesnt look good either. They say you judge a man by the friends he keeps. So you know maybe try and troll a little less.
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On November 08 2011 15:49 jyLee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 14:42 Toppp wrote:On November 08 2011 14:41 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:33 pdd wrote:
Not to be a white knight or anything, but Seltzer mentioned on the CSN stream chat that the HoN tourney will go on today. It was delayed yesterday due to the computer problems.
While I don't agree with some of his methods, I think I'm willing to give him a bit of a benefit of a doubt. And he needs to give a very good explanation of his actions. What reasons could he even possibly give to get out of this situation? Someone put a gun to his head and forced him to cancel sending YoonYJ and instead sending someone from AZK? His list of crimes are long and he has a history. There is absolutely no excuse and he's a hideous dirtbag. Anyone who defends him or befriends him risks being lumped together with him as a complete scumbag. I would reserve those words for someone like Hitler... but you know, using them on a crappy tournament organizer is fine too, I guess! He's been accused of being a racist with his blatantly biased picks. He's a dirtbag and he's killing esports. Hitler is a terrible analogy i have no idea why you would even bring that up. What he's done is criminal with breaking contracts and anyone associated with him doesnt look good either. They say you judge a man by the friends he keeps. So you know maybe try and troll a little less.
how is HE trolling? Racist? I havn't seen that before you posted it. He took a strong korean player over the rightful person. Doesn't make him racist.. makes him a liar and a cheat. But yah you could chill out on someone who thinks the descriptions used are overboard for the situation.
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On November 08 2011 15:54 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 15:49 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:42 Toppp wrote:On November 08 2011 14:41 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:33 pdd wrote:
Not to be a white knight or anything, but Seltzer mentioned on the CSN stream chat that the HoN tourney will go on today. It was delayed yesterday due to the computer problems.
While I don't agree with some of his methods, I think I'm willing to give him a bit of a benefit of a doubt. And he needs to give a very good explanation of his actions. What reasons could he even possibly give to get out of this situation? Someone put a gun to his head and forced him to cancel sending YoonYJ and instead sending someone from AZK? His list of crimes are long and he has a history. There is absolutely no excuse and he's a hideous dirtbag. Anyone who defends him or befriends him risks being lumped together with him as a complete scumbag. I would reserve those words for someone like Hitler... but you know, using them on a crappy tournament organizer is fine too, I guess! He's been accused of being a racist with his blatantly biased picks. He's a dirtbag and he's killing esports. Hitler is a terrible analogy i have no idea why you would even bring that up. What he's done is criminal with breaking contracts and anyone associated with him doesnt look good either. They say you judge a man by the friends he keeps. So you know maybe try and troll a little less. how is HE trolling? Racist? I havn't seen that before you posted it. He took a strong korean player over the rightful person. Doesn't make him racist.. makes him a liar and a cheat. But yah you could chill out on someone who thinks the descriptions used are overboard for the situation.
Look at his tournament and who he brought over. There is basically one white dude and everyone else is asian. I'm a korean and I think hes racist. He's accused of being racist on the SEA forum. Everything he's done looks bad. Why are you even arguing this?
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On November 08 2011 15:54 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 15:49 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:42 Toppp wrote:On November 08 2011 14:41 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:33 pdd wrote:
Not to be a white knight or anything, but Seltzer mentioned on the CSN stream chat that the HoN tourney will go on today. It was delayed yesterday due to the computer problems.
While I don't agree with some of his methods, I think I'm willing to give him a bit of a benefit of a doubt. And he needs to give a very good explanation of his actions. What reasons could he even possibly give to get out of this situation? Someone put a gun to his head and forced him to cancel sending YoonYJ and instead sending someone from AZK? His list of crimes are long and he has a history. There is absolutely no excuse and he's a hideous dirtbag. Anyone who defends him or befriends him risks being lumped together with him as a complete scumbag. I would reserve those words for someone like Hitler... but you know, using them on a crappy tournament organizer is fine too, I guess! He's been accused of being a racist with his blatantly biased picks. He's a dirtbag and he's killing esports. Hitler is a terrible analogy i have no idea why you would even bring that up. What he's done is criminal with breaking contracts and anyone associated with him doesnt look good either. They say you judge a man by the friends he keeps. So you know maybe try and troll a little less. how is HE trolling? Racist? I havn't seen that before you posted it. He took a strong korean player over the rightful person. Doesn't make him racist.. makes him a liar and a cheat. But yah you could chill out on someone who thinks the descriptions used are overboard for the situation.
apparently the guy is racist to several people who have met him on the forum, so I think you should relax a little
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On November 08 2011 15:57 jyLee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 15:54 mrtomjones wrote:On November 08 2011 15:49 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:42 Toppp wrote:On November 08 2011 14:41 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:33 pdd wrote:
Not to be a white knight or anything, but Seltzer mentioned on the CSN stream chat that the HoN tourney will go on today. It was delayed yesterday due to the computer problems.
While I don't agree with some of his methods, I think I'm willing to give him a bit of a benefit of a doubt. And he needs to give a very good explanation of his actions. What reasons could he even possibly give to get out of this situation? Someone put a gun to his head and forced him to cancel sending YoonYJ and instead sending someone from AZK? His list of crimes are long and he has a history. There is absolutely no excuse and he's a hideous dirtbag. Anyone who defends him or befriends him risks being lumped together with him as a complete scumbag. I would reserve those words for someone like Hitler... but you know, using them on a crappy tournament organizer is fine too, I guess! He's been accused of being a racist with his blatantly biased picks. He's a dirtbag and he's killing esports. Hitler is a terrible analogy i have no idea why you would even bring that up. What he's done is criminal with breaking contracts and anyone associated with him doesnt look good either. They say you judge a man by the friends he keeps. So you know maybe try and troll a little less. how is HE trolling? Racist? I havn't seen that before you posted it. He took a strong korean player over the rightful person. Doesn't make him racist.. makes him a liar and a cheat. But yah you could chill out on someone who thinks the descriptions used are overboard for the situation. Look at his tournament and who he brought over. There is basically one white dude and everyone else is asian. I'm a korean and I think hes racist. He's accused of being racist on the SEA forum. Everything he's done looks bad. Why are you even arguing this?
How is that racist, when this event is held in Asia? The only reason Naniwa and SaSe was there was because they are already in Asia.
And he invited a white AZK player over an Asian Australia. Chill the fuck out man. Yeah the guy's a douche, but to throw other accusations at him and picking up pitchforks to hunt him is just incredibly ridiculous. There was no reason to start another thread other than the one that Dox and AlexIGN have already started.
This fucking herd mentality in the community is just stupid.
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Fuck this guy, what a douché. As soon as I read this thread I stopped watching, nothing substantial but this is the least I can do. He's turned what could've been a fairly prestigious event into a complete mockery.
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See now I am torn, I love tastosis casts and generally I try to watch as many as I can, on the other hand this guy is a little greasy for my taste and I would rather not support his event. A delema indeed
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This guy is an irresponsible egotist.
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On November 08 2011 16:05 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 15:57 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 15:54 mrtomjones wrote:On November 08 2011 15:49 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:42 Toppp wrote:On November 08 2011 14:41 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:33 pdd wrote:
Not to be a white knight or anything, but Seltzer mentioned on the CSN stream chat that the HoN tourney will go on today. It was delayed yesterday due to the computer problems.
While I don't agree with some of his methods, I think I'm willing to give him a bit of a benefit of a doubt. And he needs to give a very good explanation of his actions. What reasons could he even possibly give to get out of this situation? Someone put a gun to his head and forced him to cancel sending YoonYJ and instead sending someone from AZK? His list of crimes are long and he has a history. There is absolutely no excuse and he's a hideous dirtbag. Anyone who defends him or befriends him risks being lumped together with him as a complete scumbag. I would reserve those words for someone like Hitler... but you know, using them on a crappy tournament organizer is fine too, I guess! He's been accused of being a racist with his blatantly biased picks. He's a dirtbag and he's killing esports. Hitler is a terrible analogy i have no idea why you would even bring that up. What he's done is criminal with breaking contracts and anyone associated with him doesnt look good either. They say you judge a man by the friends he keeps. So you know maybe try and troll a little less. how is HE trolling? Racist? I havn't seen that before you posted it. He took a strong korean player over the rightful person. Doesn't make him racist.. makes him a liar and a cheat. But yah you could chill out on someone who thinks the descriptions used are overboard for the situation. Look at his tournament and who he brought over. There is basically one white dude and everyone else is asian. I'm a korean and I think hes racist. He's accused of being racist on the SEA forum. Everything he's done looks bad. Why are you even arguing this? How is that racist, when this event is held in Asia? The only reason Naniwa and SaSe was there was because they are already in Asia. And he invited a white AZK player over an Asian Australia. Chill the fuck out man. Yeah the guy's a douche, but to throw other accusations at him and picking up pitchforks to hunt him is just incredibly ridiculous. There was no reason to start another thread other than the one that Dox and AlexIGN have already started. This fucking herd mentality in the community is just stupid.
Ok Gus you are not just a douchebag. You are a criminal who does not honor contracts. You are an accused racist by other asians. You have a history of screwing over others and people close to you hate you. If you were only a douchebag nobody would care. There are plenty of douchebags out there to get worked up over one. Myself included. Nice try Gus.
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On November 08 2011 16:06 MuATaran wrote:
See now I am torn, I love tastosis casts and generally I try to watch as many as I can, on the other hand this guy is a little greasy for my taste and I would rather not support his event. A delema indeed
This tournament is more than just an AZK tournament, and it's more than likely their name will be tarnished heavily by this controversy. But this tournament is a huge deal for SEA eSports in general, and it is still an IPL qualifier. So support it for that.
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On November 08 2011 15:00 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
TLDR
ppsl qualifiers
- yoonyj was promised a flight and spot as replacement for targa.
- did not materialise. reason was awaiting funds.
- ipl states that payments were on schedule.
- moonglade was asked to represent azk and join azk for 3 months in return for spot and flight but he declined.
- azksickness joins azk recently and gets a free spot and flight without having to go through the qualifiers.
- players from filipino team 'Cube' was denied flights.
- both azk players was given walkovers in group e over rixilius and salt who coincidentally are from 'Cube'
ppsl
- audience did not get the vip privileges (interaction with players, autographs, etc) they paid for on day 1 (usd10). ticketing has no clue.
- stream testing only start 1 hour before event. no sound proofing. not enough ram.
- players have no idea what is going on and the brackets.
- hon players that registered for hon tournament arrive and realise there is no hon tournament. s2 funds unaccounted for.
azk
- some azk members are known for their notoriety online. zanooku/ziek banned from bnet forums and sc2sea after numerous counts of trolling and racism.
- negative comments removed from facebook page
This is the 100% accurate TLDR for those who don't know. Should be added to the OP.
Thanks.
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On November 08 2011 16:11 jyLee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 16:05 pdd wrote:On November 08 2011 15:57 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 15:54 mrtomjones wrote:On November 08 2011 15:49 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:42 Toppp wrote:On November 08 2011 14:41 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:33 pdd wrote:
Not to be a white knight or anything, but Seltzer mentioned on the CSN stream chat that the HoN tourney will go on today. It was delayed yesterday due to the computer problems.
While I don't agree with some of his methods, I think I'm willing to give him a bit of a benefit of a doubt. And he needs to give a very good explanation of his actions. What reasons could he even possibly give to get out of this situation? Someone put a gun to his head and forced him to cancel sending YoonYJ and instead sending someone from AZK? His list of crimes are long and he has a history. There is absolutely no excuse and he's a hideous dirtbag. Anyone who defends him or befriends him risks being lumped together with him as a complete scumbag. I would reserve those words for someone like Hitler... but you know, using them on a crappy tournament organizer is fine too, I guess! He's been accused of being a racist with his blatantly biased picks. He's a dirtbag and he's killing esports. Hitler is a terrible analogy i have no idea why you would even bring that up. What he's done is criminal with breaking contracts and anyone associated with him doesnt look good either. They say you judge a man by the friends he keeps. So you know maybe try and troll a little less. how is HE trolling? Racist? I havn't seen that before you posted it. He took a strong korean player over the rightful person. Doesn't make him racist.. makes him a liar and a cheat. But yah you could chill out on someone who thinks the descriptions used are overboard for the situation. Look at his tournament and who he brought over. There is basically one white dude and everyone else is asian. I'm a korean and I think hes racist. He's accused of being racist on the SEA forum. Everything he's done looks bad. Why are you even arguing this? How is that racist, when this event is held in Asia? The only reason Naniwa and SaSe was there was because they are already in Asia. And he invited a white AZK player over an Asian Australia. Chill the fuck out man. Yeah the guy's a douche, but to throw other accusations at him and picking up pitchforks to hunt him is just incredibly ridiculous. There was no reason to start another thread other than the one that Dox and AlexIGN have already started. This fucking herd mentality in the community is just stupid. Ok Gus you are not just a douchebag. You are a criminal who does not honor contracts. You are an accused racist by other asians. You have a history of screwing over others and people close to you hate you. If you were only a douchebag nobody would care. There are plenty of douchebags out there to get worked up over one. Myself included. Nice try Gus.
I'm not defending him. I think it's just stupid to start another thread and blow this out of proportion. There was enough discussion going on in Dox's thread and IPL's thread. Ok fine, starting a new thread to bring this item to more light is ok. But if you're going to hate him. Hate him for who he screwed YoonYJ and Cube. Don't throw random shit at him like calling him a racist (even if he has the history of being one). It's irrelevant to the discussion.
(also I didn't make a 4k+ post account just to pretend I'm someone else).
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On November 08 2011 16:15 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 16:11 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 16:05 pdd wrote:On November 08 2011 15:57 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 15:54 mrtomjones wrote:On November 08 2011 15:49 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:42 Toppp wrote:On November 08 2011 14:41 jyLee wrote:On November 08 2011 14:33 pdd wrote:
Not to be a white knight or anything, but Seltzer mentioned on the CSN stream chat that the HoN tourney will go on today. It was delayed yesterday due to the computer problems.
While I don't agree with some of his methods, I think I'm willing to give him a bit of a benefit of a doubt. And he needs to give a very good explanation of his actions. What reasons could he even possibly give to get out of this situation? Someone put a gun to his head and forced him to cancel sending YoonYJ and instead sending someone from AZK? His list of crimes are long and he has a history. There is absolutely no excuse and he's a hideous dirtbag. Anyone who defends him or befriends him risks being lumped together with him as a complete scumbag. I would reserve those words for someone like Hitler... but you know, using them on a crappy tournament organizer is fine too, I guess! He's been accused of being a racist with his blatantly biased picks. He's a dirtbag and he's killing esports. Hitler is a terrible analogy i have no idea why you would even bring that up. What he's done is criminal with breaking contracts and anyone associated with him doesnt look good either. They say you judge a man by the friends he keeps. So you know maybe try and troll a little less. how is HE trolling? Racist? I havn't seen that before you posted it. He took a strong korean player over the rightful person. Doesn't make him racist.. makes him a liar and a cheat. But yah you could chill out on someone who thinks the descriptions used are overboard for the situation. Look at his tournament and who he brought over. There is basically one white dude and everyone else is asian. I'm a korean and I think hes racist. He's accused of being racist on the SEA forum. Everything he's done looks bad. Why are you even arguing this? How is that racist, when this event is held in Asia? The only reason Naniwa and SaSe was there was because they are already in Asia. And he invited a white AZK player over an Asian Australia. Chill the fuck out man. Yeah the guy's a douche, but to throw other accusations at him and picking up pitchforks to hunt him is just incredibly ridiculous. There was no reason to start another thread other than the one that Dox and AlexIGN have already started. This fucking herd mentality in the community is just stupid. Ok Gus you are not just a douchebag. You are a criminal who does not honor contracts. You are an accused racist by other asians. You have a history of screwing over others and people close to you hate you. If you were only a douchebag nobody would care. There are plenty of douchebags out there to get worked up over one. Myself included. Nice try Gus. (also I didn't make a 4k+ post account just to pretend I'm someone else).
I lol'd. Hivemind mentality says anyone who disagrees with the increasingly acidic posts is secretly Gus or a Gus fanboy!
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