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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
November 08 2011 04:53 GMT
#61
Ok, my torch and pitchfork is out. What do I burn?
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
November 08 2011 04:56 GMT
#62
so much drama in sc2. So sad
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
Remb
Profile Joined August 2011
United States190 Posts
November 08 2011 04:58 GMT
#63
On November 08 2011 13:56 SoKHo wrote:
so much drama in sc2. So sad

Actually, you know the sport is respectable when there is considerable drama! (see athletic sports)
A virtuous act is performed habitually, and not once from incentive alone.
pbjsandwich
Profile Joined August 2010
United States443 Posts
November 08 2011 05:01 GMT
#64
On November 08 2011 13:53 InvalidID wrote:
No reason to speculate on the prize pool not being what it was stated. This guy may have done some shady thing involving player flights, but the prize pool is stated on liquipedia to be 3500, with 2000 for first. Unless IGN paid them for a 9000$ prize pool, then there is no reason to lay this accusation and tarnish the guys image where it is not due.

well then why would AZK guys argue with Dox about it then?

I know that part is probably has the least credible source but that's why i directly quoted dox as he is unsure too
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
November 08 2011 05:01 GMT
#65
we might not be able to sue him but we can definitely spread publicity so everyone knows the wrong they have done =/
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
EricCartman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada306 Posts
November 08 2011 05:03 GMT
#66
I hope whoever is paying this prick fires him. We don't need such assholes in this community. Really fucked up. Be a man and resign Gus.
AutomatonOmega
Profile Joined February 2011
United States706 Posts
November 08 2011 05:03 GMT
#67
The two female casters from last night, as cute and entertaining as they were, well, that's all they were because their skill in casting was atrocious. The play by play sucked and everything was literally 'right about now'.

It was funny for a while but it was pretty bad when viewed from a professional perspective.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
November 08 2011 05:07 GMT
#68
I hope YoonYJ gets some reimbursement from this disgusting state of affairs. Gus Ledesma you are killing ESPORTS.
habbey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States405 Posts
November 08 2011 05:12 GMT
#69
On November 08 2011 13:33 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 13:27 MichaelJLowell wrote:
I'm just going to repeat what I posted in the other thread.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374722123
Q: Why does Blizzard Entertainment require a license to run a tournament?
A: There are several reasons why we require a license. The licensing system allows us to help monitor and promote ongoing events, and to encourage more players to participate in community tournaments. Additionally, the licensing system allows Blizzard to verify that our games are used properly and protects our intellectual property.

Q: Are there any fees associated with acquiring a StarCraft II tournament license?
A: Tournament licenses are generally free. To protect our players, we may require that organizers adhere to additional rules and regulations if the organizer charges entry fees and/or intends to pay out large cash prizes.

Q: How do I get a StarCraft II tournament license?
A: Fill out the tournament form located here. ( http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/community/esports/ ) Most general tournament requests will be approved instantly. Additional review time may be required before the approval of a license request, depending on the scope of the tournament and the number of incoming requests. We appreciate your patience!

Blizzard Entertainment has gone on the record stating that their licensing of their tournament scene was "[t]o protect our players" and "may require that organizers adhere to additional rules and regulations if the organizer charges entry fees and/or intends to pay out large cash prizes". Blizzard Entertainment put this onus on themselves and it's up to Blizzard Entertainment to prevent it from happening. The way they've designed their game, no other company or organization will ever have the control or influence necessary to prevent this from happening.


Blizzard is never going to step in as long as their revenue isn't affected. If Gus paid Blizzard, then Blizzard doesn't give an eff how he screws everyone else. Money is all that matters. Well, that and they want to keep these clauses around for when they actually decide they need them. They're an insurance policy, not a mission statement.


maybe you believe all that matters is money, but you aren't very intellignet if you believe they value the minimal amount (if any) of money gus paid over the public exposure and future patronage of sc2 tourneys.
BthreeN
Profile Joined December 2010
United States48 Posts
November 08 2011 05:13 GMT
#70
Them mighty fine folks on the state of the game would likely have no problem spreading the love of this Gus Ledesma character.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I prefer creep.
Dazer
Profile Joined September 2010
239 Posts
November 08 2011 05:14 GMT
#71
So this is Gus next to tasteless
[image loading]

And this is his twitter

https://twitter.com/#!/gusledesma

Dude has the balls to post this on reddit lol.
Lunaro
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada77 Posts
November 08 2011 05:19 GMT
#72
On November 08 2011 13:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Redundant thread. People care way too much about Starcraft lol. Or maybe you guys just have too much time on your hands.

User was warned for this post


Nice try Gus Ledezma
habbey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States405 Posts
November 08 2011 05:19 GMT
#73
On November 08 2011 13:43 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 13:34 gregnog wrote:
On November 08 2011 13:29 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 08 2011 13:20 Oreo7 wrote:
On November 08 2011 13:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Redundant thread. People care way too much about Starcraft lol. Or maybe you guys just have too much time on your hands.


*Apathetic statement to assert authority*, *condescending laughter as a reminder of just how trivial this all is to me*. *Closing jab and generalization to remind everyone how much bigger my dick is than yours*



Or maybe just *simple statement of fact* will do. Creating another thread to rehash something that has already been discussed? Acting this outraged about some esports topic that isn't really important? It's becoming as common on TL as "ruining esports."


Rigging entire qualifiers, stealing sponsorship money, cheating people out of hard earned qualifier spots, advertising tournaments that never happen, lying to anyone and everyone, damaging an entire scenes reputation.... What would be important to you?




The only possible point of this thread is to serve as a verbal lynch mob of the organizer. There's no reason this topic can't simply be brought up in a post in the other thread. Are you guys going to start a fund to help IPL hire a lawyer in the Phillipines? Also "damaging an entire scenes reputation" is the type of exaggeration that is typical of threads like this and only creates problems when it gets repeated enough. Not to mention the fact that we haven't even heard both sides of the story. Can you think of any other threads in recent memory where people were lambasting one party as guilty before hearing the other side, and then after hearing the other side switching opinions entirely? EG/TSL, Major/Sixjax perhaps?


this certainly has hurt SEA's reputation for holding major tournaments. IPL will think twice about another tourney there (as its expesnive and difficult to double check reliability) and viewers now have a sour taste in their mouth.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
November 08 2011 05:23 GMT
#74
On November 08 2011 13:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
I agree Mr. Gus was pretty silly... but I think this guy on reddit, VirtualFlu said it best:

Show nested quote +
Finally, someone new to hate on. That milkis thing was getting way too old, anyway.

what milkis thing? What has he ever done to make people hate on him? :/
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
November 08 2011 05:23 GMT
#75
This thread is creating more unnecessary drama and should be posted in the other threads about the stuff in my opinion. Too many crap threads on this drama.
vertical101
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong311 Posts
November 08 2011 05:26 GMT
#76
IPL or any other tournaments, next time you choose partnership with any PH organization u need to be more involve running the tournament. because mostly we do things unprofessionally here and late(PH time- thats what we call it). my country is full of corrupt people and scammer.

i rather not see the growth of esports here in PH than someone ruin it.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
November 08 2011 05:30 GMT
#77
IPL will probably take the appropriate legal action against them. At least, I hope so. I don't think it'd be good for any of us to do anything apart from boycott any event he's associated with.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
November 08 2011 05:31 GMT
#78
AZK and Gus Ledezma make me fucking sick. These are people actually RUINING eSports
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 08 2011 05:33 GMT
#79
Not to be a white knight or anything, but Seltzer mentioned on the CSN stream chat that the HoN tourney will go on today. It was delayed yesterday due to the computer problems.

While I don't agree with some of his methods, I think I'm willing to give him a bit of a benefit of a doubt. And he needs to give a very good explanation of his actions.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
November 08 2011 05:33 GMT
#80
On November 08 2011 14:14 Dazer wrote:
So this is Gus next to tasteless
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And this is his twitter

https://twitter.com/#!/gusledesma

Dude has the balls to post this on reddit lol.

Now he's trying to be cute about this situation. So pathetic.
[image loading]
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