EPTWhat Gus of the PPSL has done - Page 3
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rbkl
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:27 MichaelJLowell wrote: I'm just going to repeat what I posted in the other thread. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374722123 Blizzard Entertainment has gone on the record stating that their licensing of their tournament scene was "[t]o protect our players" and "may require that organizers adhere to additional rules and regulations if the organizer charges entry fees and/or intends to pay out large cash prizes". Blizzard Entertainment put this onus on themselves and it's up to Blizzard Entertainment to prevent it from happening. The way they've designed their game, no other company or organization will ever have the control or influence necessary to prevent this from happening. Blizzard is never going to step in as long as their revenue isn't affected. If Gus paid Blizzard, then Blizzard doesn't give an eff how he screws everyone else. Money is all that matters. Well, that and they want to keep these clauses around for when they actually decide they need them. They're an insurance policy, not a mission statement. | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:17 Doodsmack wrote: Redundant thread. People care way too much about Starcraft lol. Or maybe you guys just have too much time on your hands. User was warned for this post You do realise you are on a site that promotes Starcraft and tournaments >.> When thousands of dollars goes missing it doesn't really matter whether if it's related to starcraft or not, it's theft and fraud anyway. (Talking about HoN money). The whole thing seems like a bit of a nightmare for people involved. | ||
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Paaaz
Philippines33 Posts
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pbjsandwich
United States443 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:29 Doodsmack wrote: Or maybe just *simple statement of fact* will do. Creating another thread to rehash something that has already been discussed? Acting this outraged about some esports topic that isn't really important? It's becoming as common on TL as "ruining esports." how is this not important? This guy (and probably most of the higher ups of Team AZK) has screwed IPL out of money and screwed over a TON of players along the way the IGN thread lacks details and most people in the thread are discussing IGN's involvement I made this thread because he puts a face to who caused this huge mess | ||
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gregnog
United States289 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:29 Doodsmack wrote: Or maybe just *simple statement of fact* will do. Creating another thread to rehash something that has already been discussed? Acting this outraged about some esports topic that isn't really important? It's becoming as common on TL as "ruining esports." Rigging entire qualifiers, stealing sponsorship money, cheating people out of hard earned qualifier spots, advertising tournaments that never happen, lying to anyone and everyone, damaging an entire scenes reputation.... What would be important to you? | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:17 Doodsmack wrote: If you watched the stream for more than 20 minutes, or even spent 10 minutes reading all the relevant information, then I think you'd care a just-a-little bit. Or you don't care anyway, which is fine.Redundant thread. People care way too much about Starcraft lol. Or maybe you guys just have too much time on your hands. User was warned for this post | ||
Remb
United States190 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:33 Paaaz wrote: You can't imagine how we, the SEA scene, are disappointed at what happened. People were doing there best to build bridges from SEA to the rest of the world and this basically means we're back at square 1. I think we should wait for Team AZK's official response though before we start suggesting who's going to be responsible. Although it's looking a bleak for them, I'll hold my judgement until they've officially released a statement. Hasn't the fact that they have yet to say anything at all, speak volumes? | ||
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Champi
1422 Posts
He's done for. | ||
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Shewklad
Sweden482 Posts
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SonarCannon
Malaysia25 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:36 Remb wrote: Hasn't the fact that they have yet to say anything at all, speak volumes? It does indeed...god forbid he sends out a statement later saying he's totally innocent and he was scammed over by something. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:34 gregnog wrote: Rigging entire qualifiers, stealing sponsorship money, cheating people out of hard earned qualifier spots, advertising tournaments that never happen, lying to anyone and everyone, damaging an entire scenes reputation.... What would be important to you? The only possible point of this thread is to serve as a verbal lynch mob of the organizer. There's no reason this topic can't simply be brought up in a post in the other thread. Are you guys going to start a fund to help IPL hire a lawyer in the Phillipines? Also "damaging an entire scenes reputation" is the type of exaggeration that is typical of threads like this and only creates problems when it gets repeated enough. Not to mention the fact that we haven't even heard both sides of the story. Can you think of any other threads in recent memory where people were lambasting one party as guilty before hearing the other side, and then after hearing the other side switching opinions entirely? EG/TSL, Major/Sixjax perhaps? | ||
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Paaaz
Philippines33 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:36 Remb wrote: Hasn't the fact that they have yet to say anything at all, speak volumes? Perhaps, but the tournament is still on-going. I'd give them a day or two after the tourney to explain themselves. I don't think what their going to say would have an impact after this debacle though, but it's only fair to hear both sides of the story. | ||
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pbjsandwich
United States443 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:43 Doodsmack wrote: The only possible point of this thread is to serve as a verbal lynch lob of the organizer. Are you guys going to start a fund to help IPL hire a lawyer in the Phillipines? Also "damaging an entire scenes reputation" is the type of exaggeration that is typical of threads like this and only creates problems when it gets repeated enough. Not to mention the fact that we haven't even heard both sides of the story. Can you think of any other threads in recent memory where people were lambasting one party as guilty before hearing the other side, and then after hearing the other side switching opinions entirely? EG/TSL, Major/Sixjax perhaps? Do the screenshots of the facebook chat not say anything to you? How are those comparable at all This is legit people pocketing money and screwing over players | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/ignproleague/b/299396020 Sen is AZKfarmboy and Naniwa is Col.Naniwa  Enjoy people. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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gregnog
United States289 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:43 Doodsmack wrote: The only possible point of this thread is to serve as a verbal lynch mob of the organizer. There's no reason this topic can't simply be brought up in a post in the other thread. Are you guys going to start a fund to help IPL hire a lawyer in the Phillipines? Also "damaging an entire scenes reputation" is the type of exaggeration that is typical of threads like this and only creates problems when it gets repeated enough. Not to mention the fact that we haven't even heard both sides of the story. Can you think of any other threads in recent memory where people were lambasting one party as guilty before hearing the other side, and then after hearing the other side switching opinions entirely? EG/TSL, Major/Sixjax perhaps? You ever heard of bad publicity? There is a reason IPL answered so fast and pulled support from the tournament. That is part of the reason for threads like this. Also to let everyone know to never support Gus or Team AZK ever again. There was no exaggeration, if you read any of the SEA community members posting you might have known. | ||
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vertical101
Hong Kong311 Posts
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
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