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On March 28 2012 01:21 Jitsu wrote:
Also, real-life LOL at people who think I can sit down and read 50+ pages of a thread in one sitting after joining the game 12 hours ago when I worked last night.
Shit is jokes.
You're lucky you aren't replacing chaoser. Everybody thought he was scum, so the day I replaced him, they lynched me.
Fun...
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On March 27 2012 16:28 Zealos wrote:
What the, how does this even :X
Well, I guess we've gotta be very suspicious of Acro at this point.
@Mattchew Considering the town's activeness, it's better you post it sooner rather than later. Posting reads right before deadline means some people won't see it on time + Limits discussion.
Missed this piece of shit post.
i am posting it before a night deadline... giving people 48 hours to read and discuss.
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On March 28 2012 01:52 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 01:21 Jitsu wrote:
Also, real-life LOL at people who think I can sit down and read 50+ pages of a thread in one sitting after joining the game 12 hours ago when I worked last night.
Shit is jokes. You're lucky you aren't replacing chaoser. Everybody thought he was scum, so the day I replaced him, they lynched me. Fun...
Haha yea, I pushed that lynch.
Fun scum times
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The way I see it we have to play the probabilities here, and the highest probability is that Acrofales is scum. I'd love for him to get hit tonight so we can focus on others all day tomorrow, but that's out of my hands.
Acrofales, the only thing you have offered that we do is to lynch lurkers.....
Would you honestly do that if you were in our position?
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On March 28 2012 02:04 Alderan wrote:
The way I see it we have to play the probabilities here, and the highest probability is that Acrofales is scum. I'd love for him to get hit tonight so we can focus on others all day tomorrow, but that's out of my hands.
Acrofales, the only thing you have offered that we do is to lynch lurkers.....
Would you honestly do that if you were in our position?
What do you think of lyter, xatalos, zealos and evantrees
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On March 28 2012 01:11 Zealos wrote:
I'm split between Acro and Matt for lynching tomorrow, but at the moment Risen flipping DT is just too great an evidence to ignore, so I'll be voting Acro for now.
Evidence that I was FRAMED! I hope to be able to give more evidence tomorrow.
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On March 28 2012 01:59 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 16:28 Zealos wrote:
What the, how does this even :X
Well, I guess we've gotta be very suspicious of Acro at this point.
@Mattchew Considering the town's activeness, it's better you post it sooner rather than later. Posting reads right before deadline means some people won't see it on time + Limits discussion. Missed this piece of shit post. i am posting it before a night deadline... giving people 48 hours to read and discuss.
Calling it a shit post is just another poor attempt of yours to cause problems within the town? But fair enough, I thought you meant right before the post deadline :3
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On March 28 2012 02:04 Alderan wrote:
The way I see it we have to play the probabilities here, and the highest probability is that Acrofales is scum. I'd love for him to get hit tonight so we can focus on others all day tomorrow, but that's out of my hands.
Acrofales, the only thing you have offered that we do is to lynch lurkers.....
Would you honestly do that if you were in our position?
No, I haven't said anything about lynching, really. I have said who the vigilante should shoot. Plenty of time to talk about the lynch tomorrow, assuming I'm still alive.
As long as Gumshoe is alive, he is my favourite for lynching. After that it's a toss-up between Mattchew and risk.nuke atm. I am also getting unsure about Greymist, although I thought he was town at the start.
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On March 28 2012 02:13 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 01:59 Mattchew wrote:On March 27 2012 16:28 Zealos wrote:
What the, how does this even :X
Well, I guess we've gotta be very suspicious of Acro at this point.
@Mattchew Considering the town's activeness, it's better you post it sooner rather than later. Posting reads right before deadline means some people won't see it on time + Limits discussion. Missed this piece of shit post. i am posting it before a night deadline... giving people 48 hours to read and discuss. Calling it a shit post is just another poor attempt of yours to cause problems within the town? But fair enough, I thought you meant right before the post deadline :3
I could not care less about causing "problems within the town" I want to find scum and thats it.
Who do you think outside of Acro is scum?
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But a disrupted town atmosphere aids mafia, not town.
I have suspicions toward you, though I am more inclined to say you're just an annoying townie.
I'll post a better answer to that question when the day starts, I wanna have a good read over the thread/filters to decide.
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I would also say that I'm not 100% sure acro is scum, though he is by far the best lynch for tomorrow.
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On March 28 2012 02:08 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 02:04 Alderan wrote:
The way I see it we have to play the probabilities here, and the highest probability is that Acrofales is scum. I'd love for him to get hit tonight so we can focus on others all day tomorrow, but that's out of my hands.
Acrofales, the only thing you have offered that we do is to lynch lurkers.....
Would you honestly do that if you were in our position? What do you think of lyter, xatalos, zealos and evantrees
Lyter and Evantrees are lurking hard.
Lyter is providing some good commentary when he actually posts, but it's never original ideas, all just regurgitated from earlier in the thread.
Evantrees is just lurking. No really commentary. Kind of just strikes me as someone that doesn't really want to play.
If I had to pick a scum out of the two I'd pick Lyter. I think when he posts he's trying to mess up. I don't get that feeling from Evantrees.
As for Xatalos:
I'm glad you pointed me to his filter, I had not focused on it as much as I should. Let me pull out some gems.
If Risen actually is a Detective, he hasn't done a very good job at playing his role... He has created a ton of spam and confusion, undermined the birth of useful discussion, and made us talk about only himself and Acrofales for countless pages. All this seems like Mafia play, although I don't understand why he wants to get himself killed, regardless of his alignment (and him being Detective doesn't even prove that Acrofales is Mafia, so what's the point?). All I can think of is that he is A) a really anti-town Detective or B) a really reckless Mafia player.
I'm not a fan of posts like this. It's kind of like covering your tracks. Scum knows the alignment of everyone, so they'll make posts like this so they can say "hmm I suspected that might be the case" and gain some credibility.
MrZentor already had a good take on DoYouHas earlier: most likely he was killed because of his focus on Alderan or risk.nuke (probably not both, but you never know). He was also quite calm and analytic, which is bad news for Mafia, so it's not 100% certain that Alderan or risk.nuke is Mafia. Still, I would keep a close eye on these two.
Posts like this are exceedingly scummy as well, and not because I'm mentioned. He is attempting to create some kind of connection between me DYH and risk.nuke based on WIFOM. These types of bases-less connections can very easily mislead town. We've all seen it. He also makes a not that he's not 100% sure about it. You never want to make a really solid claim on someone as scum if they flip town, so he leaves it up for some ambivalence, like he did above.
If I had been the first voter, I would have probably voted for gumshoe... But then I saw that Risen had already gathered 5(?) votes with his anti-town behaviour, and since there was no chance to lynch gumshoe anymore (everyone seems to have written him off as a dumb townie or something) I thought that this was an okay lynch too - at least better than the previous lynch of layabout Risen has been creating chaos in the thread and prevented a lot of potentially useful discussion, so I find it a bit hard to believe he would actually be a Detective... But considering his overall lackluster reasoning, he might just be a REALLY bad Detective. Still, this isn't a bad lynch, although not initially my favorite lynch either (I still can't let gumshoe off my suspicions, at least until he has posted more and better). I'll have to go through every player's filter to make a rank order of their suspiciousness to make my life easier...
That's weird? On Day 1 he had no problem voting for a throw away who wasn't getting lynched. But Day 2 he's all of a sudden against sheeping? He has a theory as to why the layabout lynch was bad but doesn't really go into why he doesn't find Greymist scummy, only has really softball interactions like:
Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 06:17 Xatalos wrote:On March 25 2012 06:00 GreYMisT wrote:
I switched to gumshoe because I began to agree with the majority of people that his mistakes were not particularly malicious. in the end I agree that he posted things that were in fact too dumb to be mafia. While I dont normally agree with statements like that, I will be keeping a very close eye on him, and I expect his posting to improve. You mean *from* gumshoe..? I don't think his first posts were all that suspicious either (bad town/Mafia, hard to say), but don't you think his attitude towards the layabout lynch was suspicious? And if you actually think gumshoe is merely a dumb townie, who would you prefer to lynch? Oberyn? I don't still see how he's so suspicious (especially over people like gumshoe, Mattchew, etc.).
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Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 06:28 Xatalos wrote:On March 25 2012 06:24 GreYMisT wrote:
yes i meant from gumshoe. I felt oberyn was suspicious yes, and was also suspicious of how all threats towards him simply dropped. It was not the same way with gumshoe. I think that was just because of his massive analysis post... Don't you think it was pretty townie? Who would you want to lynch, if not Oberyn?
I've gotta run to class, will finish this in a couple hours, but tell me what you think. I'd like some feedback.
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On March 28 2012 02:48 Alderan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 02:08 Mattchew wrote:On March 28 2012 02:04 Alderan wrote:
The way I see it we have to play the probabilities here, and the highest probability is that Acrofales is scum. I'd love for him to get hit tonight so we can focus on others all day tomorrow, but that's out of my hands.
Acrofales, the only thing you have offered that we do is to lynch lurkers.....
Would you honestly do that if you were in our position? What do you think of lyter, xatalos, zealos and evantrees Lyter and Evantrees are lurking hard. Lyter is providing some good commentary when he actually posts, but it's never original ideas, all just regurgitated from earlier in the thread. Evantrees is just lurking. No really commentary. Kind of just strikes me as someone that doesn't really want to play. If I had to pick a scum out of the two I'd pick Lyter. I think when he posts he's trying to mess up. I don't get that feeling from Evantrees. As for Xatalos: I'm glad you pointed me to his filter, I had not focused on it as much as I should. Let me pull out some gems. Show nested quote +If Risen actually is a Detective, he hasn't done a very good job at playing his role... He has created a ton of spam and confusion, undermined the birth of useful discussion, and made us talk about only himself and Acrofales for countless pages. All this seems like Mafia play, although I don't understand why he wants to get himself killed, regardless of his alignment (and him being Detective doesn't even prove that Acrofales is Mafia, so what's the point?). All I can think of is that he is A) a really anti-town Detective or B) a really reckless Mafia player. I'm not a fan of posts like this. It's kind of like covering your tracks. Scum knows the alignment of everyone, so they'll make posts like this so they can say "hmm I suspected that might be the case" and gain some credibility. Show nested quote +MrZentor already had a good take on DoYouHas earlier: most likely he was killed because of his focus on Alderan or risk.nuke (probably not both, but you never know). He was also quite calm and analytic, which is bad news for Mafia, so it's not 100% certain that Alderan or risk.nuke is Mafia. Still, I would keep a close eye on these two. Posts like this are exceedingly scummy as well, and not because I'm mentioned. He is attempting to create some kind of connection between me DYH and risk.nuke based on WIFOM. These types of bases-less connections can very easily mislead town. We've all seen it. He also makes a not that he's not 100% sure about it. You never want to make a really solid claim on someone as scum if they flip town, so he leaves it up for some ambivalence, like he did above. Show nested quote +If I had been the first voter, I would have probably voted for gumshoe... But then I saw that Risen had already gathered 5(?) votes with his anti-town behaviour, and since there was no chance to lynch gumshoe anymore (everyone seems to have written him off as a dumb townie or something) I thought that this was an okay lynch too - at least better than the previous lynch of layabout Risen has been creating chaos in the thread and prevented a lot of potentially useful discussion, so I find it a bit hard to believe he would actually be a Detective... But considering his overall lackluster reasoning, he might just be a REALLY bad Detective. Still, this isn't a bad lynch, although not initially my favorite lynch either (I still can't let gumshoe off my suspicions, at least until he has posted more and better). I'll have to go through every player's filter to make a rank order of their suspiciousness to make my life easier... That's weird? On Day 1 he had no problem voting for a throw away who wasn't getting lynched. But Day 2 he's all of a sudden against sheeping? He has a theory as to why the layabout lynch was bad but doesn't really go into why he doesn't find Greymist scummy, only has really softball interactions like: Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 06:17 Xatalos wrote:On March 25 2012 06:00 GreYMisT wrote:
I switched to gumshoe because I began to agree with the majority of people that his mistakes were not particularly malicious. in the end I agree that he posted things that were in fact too dumb to be mafia. While I dont normally agree with statements like that, I will be keeping a very close eye on him, and I expect his posting to improve. You mean *from* gumshoe..? I don't think his first posts were all that suspicious either (bad town/Mafia, hard to say), but don't you think his attitude towards the layabout lynch was suspicious? And if you actually think gumshoe is merely a dumb townie, who would you prefer to lynch? Oberyn? I don't still see how he's so suspicious (especially over people like gumshoe, Mattchew, etc.). and Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 06:28 Xatalos wrote:On March 25 2012 06:24 GreYMisT wrote:
yes i meant from gumshoe. I felt oberyn was suspicious yes, and was also suspicious of how all threats towards him simply dropped. It was not the same way with gumshoe. I think that was just because of his massive analysis post... Don't you think it was pretty townie? Who would you want to lynch, if not Oberyn? I've gotta run to class, will finish this in a couple hours, but tell me what you think. I'd like some feedback.
Theres my town alderan I know and love
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gumshoe has been warned for inactivity. Next time it happens he will be forcefully replaced or modkilled.
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On March 28 2012 03:48 Curu wrote:
gumshoe has been warned for inactivity. Next time it happens he will be forcefully replaced or modkilled.
Has he responded to you outside of thread?
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I hate nit picking, but could we update the OP.
Night 1
layabout, the Stark Bannerman has been lynched.
Day 2
SamuelLJackson as Syrio Forel, Town Vigilante was hacked to pieces.
DoYouHas as a Stark Bannerman was hacked to pieces.
Night 2
Risen, aka Jory Cassel the Detective has been beheaded on the Authority of the King's Hand.
And just a little clarification, is "beheaded on the Authority of the King's Hand" is the same thing as "lynched" in Day 1, right?
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@Mattchew
To finish up that question about Zealos, I'm assuming what has you suspicious are his posts like this
On March 27 2012 02:35 Zealos wrote:
My argument against risen is not that he isn't playing well, but that he is lying. Lying is either mafia, or a town that is detrimental to the town atmosphere. Either way - Lynch.
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On March 26 2012 06:35 Zealos wrote:
*Facepalm* I really hope for your sake that you are mafia, because if you flip DT then you are the scummiest town I've ever seen. And the reason I made the argument is to be sure of the lynch today.
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On March 28 2012 01:11 Zealos wrote:
I'm split between Acro and Matt for lynching tomorrow, but at the moment Risen flipping DT is just too great an evidence to ignore, so I'll be voting Acro for now.
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On March 28 2012 02:37 Zealos wrote:
I would also say that I'm not 100% sure acro is scum, though he is by far the best lynch for tomorrow.
The closer he get's to the vote, the farther away he moves away from his own lynch target, and in the case of Risen farther away from someone who is "OMG OBVS SCUM" (that was a paraphrase).
I feel less confident about this read than my others, but he's definitely on my scum radar. I'm also not sold on you being town. Running around and asking fairly inactive people for their opinions is not the towniest of town plays.
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Lynch flavors may vary, results are the same. That's my bad. There's no hidden role that can control the lynch.
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The 2nd comment was a responce to something Risen said. I was never 100% that I wanted to vote for him, and should the same situation occur, I'd vote for the same person. As for my 2 last posts, neither of them claim I am 100%, they're pretty similar. 1st - I'll be voting acro for now
2nd - Not 100% sure, but best lynch for tomorrow.
I however, am waiting with baited breath for Mattchew's current reads, because I feel that he is contributing little to nothing so far.
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Oh, and Alderan, can I ask who you think is town?
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