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On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.
Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching.
Why would you want to reduce the amount of time town has for discussion? This raises my suspicions of you slightly. Also, why not contribute anything and merely post a one liner saying "we don't need discussion, we need uninformed action"? -.-
If there is a second Vigilante left, you should probably shoot Acrofales tonight. If nothing else, it will prevent a day being wasted on a single argument (like day 2). I'm a bit curious about his breadcrumbs though... Is he preparing for a roleclaim later? Like MrZentor did with his "code"? If worse comes to worst, we might lose another blue this way... I'd say shooting him is still a good bet though, or we might waste day 3 completely AND end up using the lynch on Acrofales anyway.
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On March 27 2012 19:07 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.
Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching. So let me get this straight. You are advocating a policy of lynching anybody who has a confirmed red check, regardless of ANY other evidence?
The other evidence is a confirmed DT doing that confirmed red check.
And yes. when you have confirmed red check thats all the evidence you need. sucks if your a miller
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On March 27 2012 19:08 Xatalos wrote:
I'm a bit curious about his breadcrumbs though... Is he preparing for a roleclaim later? Like MrZentor did with his "code"? If worse comes to worst, we might lose another blue this way... I'd say shooting him is still a good bet though, or we might waste day 3 completely AND end up using the lynch on Acrofales anyway.
Oh so you want to out more blues?
Cool. Thanks for claiming scum in thread
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Mattchew, can you make a good case instead of posting annoying 1 liners designed to stir up controversy, or should I just vote for you now?
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On March 27 2012 20:15 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 19:07 Acrofales wrote:On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.
Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching. So let me get this straight. You are advocating a policy of lynching anybody who has a confirmed red check, regardless of ANY other evidence? The other evidence is a confirmed DT doing that confirmed red check. And yes. when you have confirmed red check thats all the evidence you need. sucks if your a miller
So, your plan is to ignore all other evidence, kill a townie tomorrow and enter night 4 with no mafia and two wasted days. Boy, I sure like your plan, Mr. Scumbag!
Can I ask a stupid question? If this holds for millers and framed people, why does it not hold for godfathers? If Risen had said I was confirmed town, would I be above all suspicion?
NO. Before starting to play, I read a game here, where a DT checked a godfather and he got lynched anyway, but I can't find it anymore (maybe one of the veterans remembers it). So why hold "red is dead" as a holy grail, when a green check is maintained as suspect?
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EBWOP: night 3, not night 4. Still pretty bad, though.
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On March 27 2012 20:17 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 19:08 Xatalos wrote:
I'm a bit curious about his breadcrumbs though... Is he preparing for a roleclaim later? Like MrZentor did with his "code"? If worse comes to worst, we might lose another blue this way... I'd say shooting him is still a good bet though, or we might waste day 3 completely AND end up using the lynch on Acrofales anyway. Oh so you want to out more blues? Cool. Thanks for claiming scum in thread
Could you make an actual case against me instead of throwing a one liner at me every time I say something? The way I see it, you just panicked after I made my initial lynch vote for you and started throwing baseless one liners at me to somehow make yourself look "less suspicious" by making me look "more suspicious". All this seems like a scared counter-pressure to shift the attention away from yourself. Frankly, I can't think of a reason why a townie would be tunneling so hard on me after I merely made an analytic decision to vote for you (although I switched to gumshoe after I saw his newer posts). The only conclusion I can think of is that you are a Mafia player trying to get me lynched (not very skillfully, I might add), only because I suspected you.
I see you made some sort of a "case" against me right after I voted for you, which revolved around me being a bit unsure on who to lynch. This is my first game game of Mafia (in a forum), so of course I wouldn't be 100% confident and decisive in my first posts, but I've been trying to improve and I think I'm a lot more confident in my skills now (there aren't many veterans here either, so it's not really necessary to trust other people's opinions...). And what of it if I use smilies every now and then? 
Please, make a good case against me or stop that useless spam!
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On March 27 2012 21:25 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 20:15 Mattchew wrote:On March 27 2012 19:07 Acrofales wrote:On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.
Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching. So let me get this straight. You are advocating a policy of lynching anybody who has a confirmed red check, regardless of ANY other evidence? The other evidence is a confirmed DT doing that confirmed red check. And yes. when you have confirmed red check thats all the evidence you need. sucks if your a miller So, your plan is to ignore all other evidence, kill a townie tomorrow and enter night 4 with no mafia and two wasted days. Boy, I sure like your plan, Mr. Scumbag! Can I ask a stupid question? If this holds for millers and framed people, why does it not hold for godfathers? If Risen had said I was confirmed town, would I be above all suspicion? NO. Before starting to play, I read a game here, where a DT checked a godfather and he got lynched anyway, but I can't find it anymore (maybe one of the veterans remembers it). So why hold "red is dead" as a holy grail, when a green check is maintained as suspect?
Do you normally lynch your strongest town reads?
detectives would be pretty useless then wouldn't they?
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On March 27 2012 21:36 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 20:17 Mattchew wrote:On March 27 2012 19:08 Xatalos wrote:
I'm a bit curious about his breadcrumbs though... Is he preparing for a roleclaim later? Like MrZentor did with his "code"? If worse comes to worst, we might lose another blue this way... I'd say shooting him is still a good bet though, or we might waste day 3 completely AND end up using the lynch on Acrofales anyway. Oh so you want to out more blues? Cool. Thanks for claiming scum in thread Could you make an actual case against me instead of throwing a one liner at me every time I say something? The way I see it, you just panicked after I made my initial lynch vote for you and started throwing baseless one liners at me to somehow make yourself look "less suspicious" by making me look "more suspicious". All this seems like a scared counter-pressure to shift the attention away from yourself. Frankly, I can't think of a reason why a townie would be tunneling so hard on me after I merely made an analytic decision to vote for you (although I switched to gumshoe after I saw his newer posts). The only conclusion I can think of is that you are a Mafia player trying to get me lynched (not very skillfully, I might add), only because I suspected you. I see you made some sort of a "case" against me right after I voted for you, which revolved around me being a bit unsure on who to lynch. This is my first game game of Mafia (in a forum), so of course I wouldn't be 100% confident and decisive in my first posts, but I've been trying to improve and I think I'm a lot more confident in my skills now (there aren't many veterans here either, so it's not really necessary to trust other people's opinions...). And what of it if I use smilies every now and then? Please, make a good case against me or stop that useless spam!
Trust me I couldn't be any less scared of being mislynched by you.
I will have a bigger post at deadline as promised. Till then I plan on answering posts as if I were in conversation with people
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On March 27 2012 19:08 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.
Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching. Why would you want to reduce the amount of time town has for discussion? This raises my suspicions of you slightly. Also, why not contribute anything and merely post a one liner saying "we don't need discussion, we need uninformed action"? -.- If there is a second Vigilante left, you should probably shoot Acrofales tonight. If nothing else, it will prevent a day being wasted on a single argument (like day 2). I'm a bit curious about his breadcrumbs though... Is he preparing for a roleclaim later? Like MrZentor did with his "code"? If worse comes to worst, we might lose another blue this way... I'd say shooting him is still a good bet though, or we might waste day 3 completely AND end up using the lynch on Acrofales anyway.
Okay, I'll bite. You're also following the same stupid reasoning here that Greymist, risk.nuke and Mattchew want to jump on. You suspect I might be blue, but you think it is better to kill me than confirm? Losing a vigi and a DT isn't enough for you?
Can you tell me why it is better to vig hit or lynch me without even taking other evidence into account? Especially as you seem to think I'm blue?
It's not as if there aren't enough vigilante targets out there who have contributed NOTHING to this game at all.
Gumshoe has been lurking for so long it's not even funny anymore. He lurked an entire cycle! If he was mafia, he knew that Risen was a DT and was laughing his way to the bank while everybody here called him out repeatedly for posting suspect stuff and then lurking.
Evantrees has contributed a grand total of 9 posts to this game of which the only one remotely useful was his denial of being shot by SLJ. I happen to believe him, but not because of his post.
Note that I have no read on Evantrees at all, due to his complete lack of posting, but the few things he has said have been singularly unimpressive. I especially like his last post:
On March 26 2012 09:24 evantrees wrote:
only got sort of ninjaed once not twice at least...
Indeed gumshoe where are you? and OriginalName to a lesser extent.
Lurker 1, lurker 2 here, do you read me? Hello? HELLO?
OriginalName/Jitsu: I am inclined to give Jitsu a bit more time, but it has been 12 hours since he said he started reading, I am hoping he has something better to say than his predecessor.
I understand that a red check is a big deal. I would be suspicious of me too, but look through my filter. Take a comb through it. Note down everything scummy that you find and everything townie that you find. I have posted a lot of content, so it might take a while (although that alone should hint that I'm town). I have no doubt in my mind that you will conclude I am town.
But no, you insist that the red check is the end of the line and I should be vig shot or lynched for it. At least do your homework before shooting/lynching your fellow townie.
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On March 27 2012 21:36 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 21:25 Acrofales wrote:On March 27 2012 20:15 Mattchew wrote:On March 27 2012 19:07 Acrofales wrote:On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.
Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching. So let me get this straight. You are advocating a policy of lynching anybody who has a confirmed red check, regardless of ANY other evidence? The other evidence is a confirmed DT doing that confirmed red check. And yes. when you have confirmed red check thats all the evidence you need. sucks if your a miller So, your plan is to ignore all other evidence, kill a townie tomorrow and enter night 4 with no mafia and two wasted days. Boy, I sure like your plan, Mr. Scumbag! Can I ask a stupid question? If this holds for millers and framed people, why does it not hold for godfathers? If Risen had said I was confirmed town, would I be above all suspicion? NO. Before starting to play, I read a game here, where a DT checked a godfather and he got lynched anyway, but I can't find it anymore (maybe one of the veterans remembers it). So why hold "red is dead" as a holy grail, when a green check is maintained as suspect? Do you normally lynch your strongest town reads? detectives would be pretty useless then wouldn't they?
Isn't that pretty much my point? Care to elaborate, because if this is supposed to somehow refute what I said, I don't understand.
Detectives are far from useless, but you cannot blindly trust their findings either. Combine it with the rest of the evidence and draw your conclusion. Don't just think "lol, easy mode" and lynch a townie without even thinking it through.
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gumshoe and evantrees are probably town. Acro why so scared to call out lyter? he's lurked harder than anyone (overall) and ninja voted risen.
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On March 27 2012 22:00 Mattchew wrote:
gumshoe and evantrees are probably town. Acro why so scared to call out lyter? he's lurked harder than anyone (overall) and ninja voted risen.
Not scared at all. I just can't post about everybody. I called out the three lurkers who I am most suspect of as vig targets. Lyter reads marginally more townie to me and Sinensis managed to skip by under my radar, because he was marginally active on day 1.
If I was calling out lurkers to post, then I would've included them, but I was suggesting alternative targets for the vig to hit. I guess Lyter wouldn't be bad either. Assuming we even still have a vig, of course.
Mattchew: why do you think Gumshoe is town? Why do you think Evantrees is town?
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Curu, the night post yesterday was at 2am CET. I presume that was intentional? Daylight saving time happened this weekend in Europe
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Gumshoe posted freely and his posts do not read as calculated/afraid of criticism. Evantrees mostly because he didn't vote Risen. I actually re-read his filter and thought there was more but he does talk about setup a large % of his very few posts so idk. I think he might just straight up not care or he could be scum. Either way there are way better lynch targets for after you than him.
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On March 27 2012 22:21 Mattchew wrote:
Gumshoe posted freely and his posts do not read as calculated/afraid of criticism. Evantrees mostly because he didn't vote Risen. I actually re-read his filter and thought there was more but he does talk about setup a large % of his very few posts so idk. I think he might just straight up not care or he could be scum. Either way there are way better lynch targets for after you than him.
Like... you? I actually think you're a MUCH better target for vig hitting than me, but for some reason most of the people disagree, so I was waiting for more evidence. That evidence is falling on both sides of the scumometer. Your insistance on lynching me without even considering I might be innocent is damning, but you also seem to stimulate discussion in your own weird manner. That's why I don't think you're as good a vig hit as the other three I mentioned: I want more evidence. There's no rush, unless, of course, this town decides to kill me before I can gather more evidence.
I'm confident at least some people will actually go through my posts, before condemning me to death, even if you don't.
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On March 27 2012 21:50 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I'll bite. You're also following the same stupid reasoning here that Greymist, risk.nuke and Mattchew want to jump on. You suspect I might be blue, but you think it is better to kill me than confirm? Losing a vigi and a DT isn't enough for you?
I'm not saying you are a blue, I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether you are a Mafia pretending to be a blue or an actual blue. There's no way you're a green townie, with your breadcrumbing pointing at a specific role. I don't personally think you're the best lynch target either, but since most people seem focused on lynching you tomorrow, vigi shooting you would save day 3 from being wasted on your lynch (no matter if you're Mafia or town).
(I have to say though, if Risen hadn't flipped DT, you would seem like the more convincing blue so far. But if day 3 is going to be wasted on your lynch anyway, there's not much point to leave you alive for tomorrow...).
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I'm split between Acro and Matt for lynching tomorrow, but at the moment Risen flipping DT is just too great an evidence to ignore, so I'll be voting Acro for now.
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I'm not done reading the thread, but I can't understand why people are listening to the third party. He might be a good player, but he's a public third party. Which means he isn't town. There's no reason anyone should be sheeping onto him, or even listening him, while discounting your own logic. Stop doing it, if you are.
Risen was lynched and flipped Detective. He gave a red read and flipped Detective. The alignment Detective is guarenteed to be sane.
We lynch Arcofales tomorrow. It doesn't matter if you think you have a better read on a better player. Our now dead detective out and out said that Arcofales is scum.
He dies.
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Also, real-life LOL at people who think I can sit down and read 50+ pages of a thread in one sitting after joining the game 12 hours ago when I worked last night.
Shit is jokes.
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