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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 27 2012 00:25 GMT
#1021
On March 27 2012 09:22 Lyter wrote:
Ah, a little too late lol, eyes on Acro I guess

and you
and xatalos.

and idk
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
March 27 2012 00:26 GMT
#1022
*cough cough*

Time to listen to everyone explain how bad Risen is and try to convince themselves that their vote was perfectly reasonable.

Maybe if I were a vet, my opinion wouldn't immediately be deemed invalid.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
March 27 2012 00:38 GMT
#1023
On March 27 2012 09:26 Oberyn wrote:
*cough cough*

Time to listen to everyone explain how bad Risen is and try to convince themselves that their vote was perfectly reasonable.

Maybe if I were a vet, my opinion wouldn't immediately be deemed invalid.


I'll save it for the post game. For now we have a lynched detective who claimed a red check on another player in the game. The OP states that alignments dectectives are guarenteed to be sane, thus either acro is scum, was framed, or is a miller.It sucks that our next day must be predeterimined, but we have to lynch acro because of this. letting a red-checked player live would generate too much wifom.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#1024
wbg is so not pro-town
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 27 2012 01:10 GMT
#1025
i'll be posting all my reads right before deadline
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
March 27 2012 01:10 GMT
#1026
On March 27 2012 09:38 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 09:26 Oberyn wrote:
*cough cough*

Time to listen to everyone explain how bad Risen is and try to convince themselves that their vote was perfectly reasonable.

Maybe if I were a vet, my opinion wouldn't immediately be deemed invalid.


I'll save it for the post game. For now we have a lynched detective who claimed a red check on another player in the game. The OP states that alignments dectectives are guarenteed to be sane, thus either acro is scum, was framed, or is a miller.It sucks that our next day must be predeterimined, but we have to lynch acro because of this. letting a red-checked player live would generate too much wifom.


He is confirmed non-pgo due to the detective check. If there is another town vig alive, this is the perfect time for them to shoot.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
March 27 2012 02:20 GMT
#1027
I know evantrees never responded to anything I or anyone else said about him, and I said I would not switch my vote unless he did respond. Well I am making an exception and voting Acro tomorrow. I am also disregarding everything Acro says until he is lynched.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 27 2012 04:12 GMT
#1028
ok so we kill acrofales now.

easy peasy lemon squeezy.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
March 27 2012 04:18 GMT
#1029
On March 27 2012 13:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
ok so we kill acrofales now.

easy peasy lemon squeezy.




ARRIVEDERCI TOWN! Godspeed :D
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 27 2012 06:46 GMT
#1030
On March 27 2012 13:18 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 13:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
ok so we kill acrofales now.

easy peasy lemon squeezy.




ARRIVEDERCI TOWN! Godspeed :D


shut up dead guy who is not Brad Pitt

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 27 2012 07:01 GMT
#1031
On March 27 2012 09:20 Lyter wrote:
Alright my reasoning for voting Risen isn't particularly mindblowing, I don't think there's much that hasn't already been said about him.

I think a lynch on him is just plain sensible at this point. If he is lynched, and flips town, then he will be DT because there is no reason to claim it and then be something else, that is just anti-town. So of course the other option is he flips mafia, and hurrah you killed a scum. If he flips DT like his claim, then no doubt he has checked Acro, the only issue is whether something else occurred that night like a framing which at least provides a slight positive in that you know there is some manipulative role out there.
I think him creating a heck of a lot of spam taking up practically all of day 2's discussion is a pretty scummy move, would it not be wiser as a DT to just take note that you checked someone and they came up scum and maybe use that at a later more critical time?
Part of me thinks it would be smarter to lynch acro then get risen day 3 if acro flips town, but that is only the case if we don't give any value to way Risen has acted over day 2 and just say its 50/50. But I think in this case he's been so destructive to progress that he kinda has to go before acro because it makes he comes across much shadier, trying to divert town attention away from something else that we may have have missed from the events of day/night 1.


in this post lyter claims scum

Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 27 2012 07:28 GMT
#1032
What the, how does this even :X
Well, I guess we've gotta be very suspicious of Acro at this point.
@Mattchew Considering the town's activeness, it's better you post it sooner rather than later. Posting reads right before deadline means some people won't see it on time + Limits discussion.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18153 Posts
March 27 2012 07:49 GMT
#1033
tiyccagofcaxudin!!! I hate Risen even more now. How the fuck does any of this make sense?! I actually gave a red read?! FUUUUCK.

Okay, rant over. I realise I'm fighting an uphill battle, but can someone please tell why this read is being used to throw overboard all other evidence? I want to prove my innocence, and at the moment all I have is my play so far. Please don't kill me without at least formulating a case against me.

So far, the only evidence posted is a red read. I ask you to go over my filter and make a better case than that.

Valar dohaeris!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18153 Posts
March 27 2012 09:26 GMT
#1034
Nobody? Really? Okay.

Risk.nuke:
On March 27 2012 02:05 risk.nuke wrote:
I thought you said exept those, and in all honesty I'd rather kill acro before risen. Since the risk reward is better but I have little time today and I didn't feel strong enough about it to argue with the majority about it.


Yesterday you didn't feel like arguing with the majority. Now would be a most excellent time to make your case.

Oberyn: you also voted for me. Insofar as I can see, this is your case against me:
On March 27 2012 02:12 Oberyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 01:54 chaoser wrote:
If you had to lynch three people right now, who would they be? Out of acro and risen, who would you lynch?


I think Arco would be the better lynch at this point. As there are still seven hours, its possible to have the situation deal with itself and allow Risen to continue to provide checks or tie up the roleblocker with the threat of a tracker or watcher.

Future lynches would have to be based on today's flip, but I still think Greymist would be a good lynch.


Which seems to indicate the same as risk.nuke stated: risk/reward. It doesn't actually say anything about me being mafia. Please elaborate on the rewards of lynching and/or vigi shooting me. How are you so sure I'm mafia with only the fact that I flipped red to back it up? In fact, I am very interested to hear how you reached that conclusion before Risen turned out to actually be a DT.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 27 2012 09:40 GMT
#1035
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.

Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 27 2012 09:42 GMT
#1036
And the answer to your question was occam's razor.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 27 2012 09:53 GMT
#1037
On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.

Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching.

*Tomorrow*
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 27 2012 09:59 GMT
#1038
On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.

Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching.

This is never good for town, even if we know who we are lynching, we should still make progress towards the next days lynch ect.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 27 2012 10:02 GMT
#1039
On March 27 2012 18:59 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.

Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching.

This is never good for town, even if we know who we are lynching, we should still make progress towards the next days lynch ect.

Yeah that works on paper. Nobody ever does that, in reallity all that happens is this thread goes yellow for a day.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18153 Posts
March 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1040
On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.

Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching.


So let me get this straight. You are advocating a policy of lynching anybody who has a confirmed red check, regardless of ANY other evidence?

If Ockham's razor was meant as an elaboration of this, I counter:

Ockham's razor does not tell you to disregard evidence. It tells you to choose the simplest explanation that explains all evidence.

However, you're choosing to deliberately disregard almost all the evidence (my entire game history), based on a red check. Let me remind you that red does not mean mafia, it is just another piece of evidence. It is up to you to weigh that evidence, together with all other evidence.

Ockham's razor is a tool to be used in this process, it is not used to cut away all evidence that does not fit your preconceived theory.

Now I have a seminar (a boring one). Hopefully I can continue to post from my iPad, but it'll be slow and torturous.
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