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On November 08 2013 13:03 Vanesco wrote:
This town is seriously ignoring so many things its putting town at a setback in my opinion. Like seriously, its now Day 2 and we are in a worse position than at the start of the game. Now instead of 10 townies we are down to 8 while scum are still at 3. What has town learnt? Not much apart from having more time to make reads on player interaction. Why is nobody interested in following up on how gumshoe was killed or why OO was a target?
So far (unless I accidentally missed it in the thread), Umasi, EchelonTee (now kinda excused since replaced), Sn0_Man, and Cephiro have not given any type of explanation as to why they decided to change their vote onto gumshoe in the last few minutes, which I am still waiting for. If those 3 (this is excluding EchelonTee) are allowed to get away with lynching a townie without ever even having to reason why it would be a big mistake. If one of those 3 happens to be scum then its like giving them a free pass on a kill.
OO's death is interesting in my opinion since a few people were kinda talking about lynching or thinking of lynching him come day 2. I think that regardless of if OO was NK or silver bullet shot, there was a reason why they chose him over somebody else. It seems that OO was mainly focused on sno for most of the game. He was also suspicious of others however sno is the one that seems to occur many times and sno's posts have very much the similar type where he has been mainly wanting to get rid of OO.
##Vote: Sn0_Man
I really like this post and Umasi you're either playing like shit or you're scum too for that awful case on Vanesco.
Umasi/Sn0/Onegu scumteam?
I'd be pretty disappointed tbh.
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On November 08 2013 13:03 Vanesco wrote:
This town is seriously ignoring so many things its putting town at a setback in my opinion. Like seriously, its now Day 2 and we are in a worse position than at the start of the game. Now instead of 10 townies we are down to 8 while scum are still at 3. What has town learnt? Not much apart from having more time to make reads on player interaction. Why is nobody interested in following up on how gumshoe was killed or why OO was a target?
So far (unless I accidentally missed it in the thread), Umasi, EchelonTee (now kinda excused since replaced), Sn0_Man, and Cephiro have not given any type of explanation as to why they decided to change their vote onto gumshoe in the last few minutes, which I am still waiting for. If those 3 (this is excluding EchelonTee) are allowed to get away with lynching a townie without ever even having to reason why it would be a big mistake. If one of those 3 happens to be scum then its like giving them a free pass on a kill.
OO's death is interesting in my opinion since a few people were kinda talking about lynching or thinking of lynching him come day 2. I think that regardless of if OO was NK or silver bullet shot, there was a reason why they chose him over somebody else. It seems that OO was mainly focused on sno for most of the game. He was also suspicious of others however sno is the one that seems to occur many times and sno's posts have very much the similar type where he has been mainly wanting to get rid of OO.
##Vote: Sn0_Man
for my part: mainly because I was unsure about hzflank, and gumshoe was a better alternative.
I generally am leery of when people separate themselves from the thread so much in a /higher and mightier fashion, like 'wow you guys are duuuuuuumb and bad and not doing things effectively'
Is there a reason you're voting for sno aside from OO's interactions with him? (which I haven't read.)
You kind of jumped in thought process from
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433955¤tpage=27#523
sno_man:
Coming into this I am very cautious because he seems to be one of the people everybody is jumping on. He seems to want to lynch Onegu near the start because he cannot read him (terrible accusation). He has a very carefree attitude and he hasn't really given any real reads in my opinion. I am worried however that scum might tag along the sno train to lynch town. I have a null read on him atm but that is because he hasn't really said anything. No matter what his affiliation is, I think he is playing without care of the game.
to 'he's pretty scummy' to voting him, but you never actually address things he says as far as I can tell.
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On November 08 2013 13:12 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 13:03 Vanesco wrote:
This town is seriously ignoring so many things its putting town at a setback in my opinion. Like seriously, its now Day 2 and we are in a worse position than at the start of the game. Now instead of 10 townies we are down to 8 while scum are still at 3. What has town learnt? Not much apart from having more time to make reads on player interaction. Why is nobody interested in following up on how gumshoe was killed or why OO was a target?
So far (unless I accidentally missed it in the thread), Umasi, EchelonTee (now kinda excused since replaced), Sn0_Man, and Cephiro have not given any type of explanation as to why they decided to change their vote onto gumshoe in the last few minutes, which I am still waiting for. If those 3 (this is excluding EchelonTee) are allowed to get away with lynching a townie without ever even having to reason why it would be a big mistake. If one of those 3 happens to be scum then its like giving them a free pass on a kill.
OO's death is interesting in my opinion since a few people were kinda talking about lynching or thinking of lynching him come day 2. I think that regardless of if OO was NK or silver bullet shot, there was a reason why they chose him over somebody else. It seems that OO was mainly focused on sno for most of the game. He was also suspicious of others however sno is the one that seems to occur many times and sno's posts have very much the similar type where he has been mainly wanting to get rid of OO.
##Vote: Sn0_Man for my part: mainly because I was unsure about hzflank, and gumshoe was a better alternative. I generally am leery of when people separate themselves from the thread so much in a /higher and mightier fashion, like 'wow you guys are duuuuuuumb and bad and not doing things effectively'Is there a reason you're voting for sno aside from OO's interactions with him? (which I haven't read.) You kind of jumped in thought process from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433955¤tpage=27#523Show nested quote +sno_man:
Coming into this I am very cautious because he seems to be one of the people everybody is jumping on. He seems to want to lynch Onegu near the start because he cannot read him (terrible accusation). He has a very carefree attitude and he hasn't really given any real reads in my opinion. I am worried however that scum might tag along the sno train to lynch town. I have a null read on him atm but that is because he hasn't really said anything. No matter what his affiliation is, I think he is playing without care of the game. to 'he's pretty scummy' to voting him, but you never actually address things he says as far as I can tell.
You mean like Rayn did?
Or me?
You haven't said anything about when we did it.
thrawn where are you?
I need you to be my marv this game.
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On November 08 2013 13:13 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 13:12 Umasi wrote:On November 08 2013 13:03 Vanesco wrote:
This town is seriously ignoring so many things its putting town at a setback in my opinion. Like seriously, its now Day 2 and we are in a worse position than at the start of the game. Now instead of 10 townies we are down to 8 while scum are still at 3. What has town learnt? Not much apart from having more time to make reads on player interaction. Why is nobody interested in following up on how gumshoe was killed or why OO was a target?
So far (unless I accidentally missed it in the thread), Umasi, EchelonTee (now kinda excused since replaced), Sn0_Man, and Cephiro have not given any type of explanation as to why they decided to change their vote onto gumshoe in the last few minutes, which I am still waiting for. If those 3 (this is excluding EchelonTee) are allowed to get away with lynching a townie without ever even having to reason why it would be a big mistake. If one of those 3 happens to be scum then its like giving them a free pass on a kill.
OO's death is interesting in my opinion since a few people were kinda talking about lynching or thinking of lynching him come day 2. I think that regardless of if OO was NK or silver bullet shot, there was a reason why they chose him over somebody else. It seems that OO was mainly focused on sno for most of the game. He was also suspicious of others however sno is the one that seems to occur many times and sno's posts have very much the similar type where he has been mainly wanting to get rid of OO.
##Vote: Sn0_Man for my part: mainly because I was unsure about hzflank, and gumshoe was a better alternative. I generally am leery of when people separate themselves from the thread so much in a /higher and mightier fashion, like 'wow you guys are duuuuuuumb and bad and not doing things effectively'Is there a reason you're voting for sno aside from OO's interactions with him? (which I haven't read.) You kind of jumped in thought process from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433955¤tpage=27#523sno_man:
Coming into this I am very cautious because he seems to be one of the people everybody is jumping on. He seems to want to lynch Onegu near the start because he cannot read him (terrible accusation). He has a very carefree attitude and he hasn't really given any real reads in my opinion. I am worried however that scum might tag along the sno train to lynch town. I have a null read on him atm but that is because he hasn't really said anything. No matter what his affiliation is, I think he is playing without care of the game. to 'he's pretty scummy' to voting him, but you never actually address things he says as far as I can tell. You mean like Rayn did? Or me? You haven't said anything about when we did it. thrawn where are you? I need you to be my marv this game.
hi. do you think onegu is scum or is your vote pure policy? if it's policy you're wasting time imo
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Yes, 'generally' being the key term.
rayn was weird for doing it as well, but he was also doing something to improve the state of the game iirc. This is just shitflinging.
and I dismiss it when you do it because entertaining the notion that you're scum at this point feels fucking ridiculous, as I think I've asserted multiple times. and if not, I'm asserting it now T>T
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On November 08 2013 13:17 Umasi wrote:
Yes, 'generally' being the key term.
rayn was weird for doing it as well, but he was also doing something to improve the state of the game iirc. This is just shitflinging.
and I dismiss it when you do it because entertaining the notion that you're scum at this point feels fucking ridiculous, as I think I've asserted multiple times. and if not, I'm asserting it now T>T
So let me ask you something.
DId you read what I wrote about Sn0?
thrawn my vote is exactly what I said it is. I am not moving it right now.
Did you read what I wrote about Sn0?
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I don't really think sno has had any affect (or effect?) on this game so far. He mentions that he is playing like his standard day 1 and not really giving any reads. I don't know his meta or really care for it too much, but not willing to give ANY reads sends some alarm bells to my head thinking he could be scum. He also says that he promises he is making reads and thinking about the game, where so far all he has really done is talk about how he thinks OO has died and nothing else of actual value.
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oops, forgot to bold my vote, just realized that now.
##Vote: Sn0_Man
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On November 08 2013 13:23 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 13:17 Umasi wrote:
Yes, 'generally' being the key term.
rayn was weird for doing it as well, but he was also doing something to improve the state of the game iirc. This is just shitflinging.
and I dismiss it when you do it because entertaining the notion that you're scum at this point feels fucking ridiculous, as I think I've asserted multiple times. and if not, I'm asserting it now T>T So let me ask you something. DId you read what I wrote about Sn0? thrawn my vote is exactly what I said it is. I am not moving it right now. Did you read what I wrote about Sn0?
no, I didn't. I searched for it and didn't find it, maybe I'm just blind.
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If we're attacking people for not having an impact on the game I can think of some people that have been much less useful than sn0 and some of them are even town reads or have died and flipped green.
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On November 08 2013 13:27 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 13:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 08 2013 13:17 Umasi wrote:
Yes, 'generally' being the key term.
rayn was weird for doing it as well, but he was also doing something to improve the state of the game iirc. This is just shitflinging.
and I dismiss it when you do it because entertaining the notion that you're scum at this point feels fucking ridiculous, as I think I've asserted multiple times. and if not, I'm asserting it now T>T So let me ask you something. DId you read what I wrote about Sn0? thrawn my vote is exactly what I said it is. I am not moving it right now. Did you read what I wrote about Sn0? no, I didn't. I searched for it and didn't find it, maybe I'm just blind.
It's my large return post on the last page.
You are blind.
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TOTALLY blind.
no real comment on it, didn't sway me either way.
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On November 08 2013 05:15 Koshi wrote:
Well. I am a man of God normally. But I rolled Acolyte this game. True Story. Hand to God.
If you are godfather...
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And WoS rayn hasnt really done anything at all today, how does that change your opinion?
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On November 08 2013 03:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
Barring shenannies I usually expect my strongest townread to die every night. When they dont, (and instead its somebody I thought was pretty scummy) Alarm bells go off. I must not be thinking this game right. My solution to that would be if OO was a blue shot, then my reads can still be somewhat reasonable.
W/e, discussing it with u isn't helping I don't think.
This post is really wierd to me, maybe its because thats not how I choose my night 1 shot as scum. And to go along with this he keeps calling for people to share blue votes.
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I am still wanting to lynch Onegu but I want to talk about syl because I'd like him to be a possible lynch candidate as well.
Sylencia votes for ET on day 1. He is the only person with his vote still on ET at the end of the day
during d2 sylencia says this
On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro
Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.
Go back and read the part I bolded. Read what sylencia says he's going to do about hopeless during D2.
He comes in voting for ceph saying that all the other candidates are likely to be lynched and therefore not worth talking about. I question him about this and his response is....
On November 08 2013 10:37 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 00:05 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 07 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you have anything to say about Onegu? look at syl's reply On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro
Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.
Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too.
In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others. -could lynch hopeless -people aren;t going up for the probable targets during d2 the serious targets mentioned so far have been rayn onegu and et but they aren't "probable" and the only one he bothers mentioning is rayn? sylencia why are you dismissing the onegu and hopeless lynches even though you yourself said you could lynch hopeless? There have been what, 2 or 3 posts about Hopeless, the rest have been a massive 'rayn/onegu is scum' talk. How does that show that Hopeless is a probable target? It doesn't really, since no one is talking about him. In any case, my vote isn't weird at all considering there has been no defense from Ceph and we're already in the second half of day 2. I dunno why this town is so dead.
oh so now it's time to ignore everything being said about ET? When earlier he said hopeless is somebody he'd "be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him"
why why why does nobody see this as scummy? syl's main candidate from d1 is someone who syl says he's going to "keep in mind during the course of the day" but he later refuses to acknowledge hopeless as a serious candidate.
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WoS i liked your post on Sn0, it's nearly the exact thoughts i had when i read those posts. He hasn't been saying much, there are people being discussed (me/Onegu/Syl/Hopeless/etc..) and he comes in with "hmm doods, why was OO hit?" and says pretty much nothing at all.
Onegu me doing nothing is bullshit. I have done the most today maybe barring thrawn, last night there was nothing to talk about because noone was here. At that point i had said everything there was to say for me. Why are you trying to continuously make me look bad for something that's not there? Feels like you have just decided i am scum and the go find reasons why could i be scum. Vote stands.
Sylencia looks worse. I liked his D1 but not his D2 the slightest. I can't possibly understand he has played scum with Onegu just a while ago and that's all he has to say about him.
Still waiting for hopeless to catch up. If he doesn't i will seriously consider him for a lynch. Same with Cephiro. I liked this from Umasi:
I think it's actually patently absurd that someone can be so anti-WoS. Just as an aside.
Koshiiiiiii <3<3<3<3 Also Koshi, i hope you catch up today, hzflank wasn't looking too dandy and you didn't really help your slot with your posts yet.
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@Koshi
Are you caught up? Have you read hz? What are your thoughts on the person you replaced?
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On November 08 2013 14:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:WoS i liked your post on Sn0, it's nearly the exact thoughts i had when i read those posts. He hasn't been saying much, there are people being discussed (me/Onegu/Syl/Hopeless/etc..) and he comes in with "hmm doods, why was OO hit?" and says pretty much nothing at all. Onegu me doing nothing is bullshit. I have done the most today maybe barring thrawn, last night there was nothing to talk about because noone was here. At that point i had said everything there was to say for me. Why are you trying to continuously make me look bad for something that's not there? Feels like you have just decided i am scum and the go find reasons why could i be scum. Vote stands. Sylencia looks worse. I liked his D1 but not his D2 the slightest. I can't possibly understand he has played scum with Onegu just a while ago and that's all he has to say about him. Still waiting for hopeless to catch up. If he doesn't i will seriously consider him for a lynch. Same with Cephiro. I liked this from Umasi: Show nested quote +I think it's actually patently absurd that someone can be so anti-WoS. Just as an aside. Koshiiiiiii <3<3<3<3 Also Koshi, i hope you catch up today, hzflank wasn't looking too dandy and you didn't really help your slot with your posts yet.
Yeah this is basicly true, I have decided you are scum. Again most of my reads are based off of feel, so it is difficult for me to convince town I am right, which alot of the time I am (ie P4).
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It's ~6AM for Koshi, i doubt he will post in the next hours..
Onegu thoughts on Sno and Sylencia? More than a sentence.
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