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On August 26 2012 01:10 Lvdr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 12:55 iamperfection wrote:
We finish what we should have done yesterday.
## Vote Bluelightz
He hasent changed anything and then attempts to make a case on the god damn troll? Screw that the chezinu case seems to be just a hollow attempt to feign scum hunting. It reads as simply going the safe avenue to me. BLuelightz will spill red blood. Vote for this guy.
On August 25 2012 13:01 Bluelightz wrote:Out of the activity since D1 I think this stuck out to me the most. WIFOM I know, but this feels to me like a mafia trying to ride the pressure from yesterday into another mislynch. Chez has been worthless, I don't think he is a bad lynch. Therefore this reads to me to be a mafia trying to redirect scumhunting energies from a partner without committing so much he cant end up voting for chez later. More a gut read than anything else. In a weird way though it seems I might be a good lynch target because it might actually give the town some leads when I flip green. Still don't want to die, but if i'm so untrustworthy -- anything for the town 
Martyring yourself won't help. Especially since you were willing to vote Obvious for martyring himself.
## Vote Lvdr
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ebwop messed up the formatting there. BL should be nested inside Lvdr.
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I can't talk to shady right now.
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Lvdr, what's this Shady thing about??
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On August 26 2012 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
Lvdr, what's this Shady thing about??
We just ripped into each other hard in Newbie XXV.
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I can kill Chezinu too. For funsies.
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On August 26 2012 08:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can kill Chezinu too. For funsies.
Are you scum or vig? B/c townies can't kill.
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On August 26 2012 08:12 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can kill Chezinu too. For funsies. Are you scum or vig? B/c townies can't kill.
dont ask stupid questions. What possible answer could he give that would be good for town.
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On August 26 2012 06:54 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
Lvdr, what's this Shady thing about?? We just ripped into each other hard in Newbie XXV.
Except this isn't that game. Make your f
eelings clear this game please. Read talis and let me know what you think.
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Also, fuck this interface
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On August 26 2012 08:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 06:54 Shady Sands wrote:On August 26 2012 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
Lvdr, what's this Shady thing about?? We just ripped into each other hard in Newbie XXV. Except this isn't that game. Make your f eelings clear this game please. Read talis and let me know what you think.
I'm perfectly clear. It's Lvdr who's getting steamed. And you still haven't shared your thoughts on Lvdr.
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Vote count:
Lvdr (3):
VisceraEyes
Djagulingu
Shady Sands
Bluelightz (1):
iamperfection
Chezinu (1):
Bluelightz
Not Voting
talismania
Kville
Chezinu
marvellosity
Lvdr
With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch. Currently, nobody is set to be lynched.
The deadline arrives in 24 hours, 30 minutes.
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##Vote Lvdr
guess I got to wait for tomorrow for everyone to start jumping around. 
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Hmm my read on chez is that he is engaged in the game. His voting patterns look pretty pro-town (extremely active at deadline, seems to be trying to find a good lynch even if he doesn't actually state reasoning)
Unfortunately it is very hard (at least for me) to read a troll player. YourHarry's scum game was deadly effective, and it doesn't seem that a troll townie could be all that useful to the town.
Not sure why he voted for me, but hopefully there is an explanation at the other end of the rainbow.
That being said, I think a vigi shot could be a good call at this point.
Does the town know who made the shot
Regarding talis, I would give him no better than a null read. 2 points that stuck out to me.
1. The activity is quite low, and not particularly filled with content. I wouldn't call it downright scummy though.
2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836¤tpage=25#497
This post latches on to a stretch of a case, complete agreement, no further points made, never revisited beyond his initial AHA moment.
Maybe I've talked myself into a scum-read. I have to see how I feel after some-more activity.
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On August 26 2012 14:33 Lvdr wrote:Hmm my read on chez is that he is engaged in the game. His voting patterns look pretty pro-town (extremely active at deadline, seems to be trying to find a good lynch even if he doesn't actually state reasoning) Unfortunately it is very hard (at least for me) to read a troll player. YourHarry's scum game was deadly effective, and it doesn't seem that a troll townie could be all that useful to the town. Not sure why he voted for me, but hopefully there is an explanation at the other end of the rainbow. That being said, I think a vigi shot could be a good call at this point. Does the town know who made the shotRegarding talis, I would give him no better than a null read. 2 points that stuck out to me. 1. The activity is quite low, and not particularly filled with content. I wouldn't call it downright scummy though. 2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836¤tpage=25#497This post latches on to a stretch of a case, complete agreement, no further points made, never revisited beyond his initial AHA moment. Maybe I've talked myself into a scum-read. I have to see how I feel after some-more activity.
This point is a classic WIFOM slip.
You think chez is engaged. But you don't know since he's trolly. You cite an anecdote from another player in another game who was trolly and flipped scum. You don't know why he voted for you and subtly criticize his troll logic for doing so. And then you finish that part by asking for a vigi shot... on who? Chez for being trolly? Or you?
You don't even address any of the other cases on yourself except by saying that you've talked yourself into a scum-read. You just address Chez's case, and even then, only implicitly, because Chez's case is the weakest.
On Talis: Both points you cite regarding Talis are clear scumtells. Low content, lurky behavior. But somehow not "downright scummy." Then you cite his largest post as an example of active scumming. Then you say he is a null read. What?
This entire post is an attempt to look active without committing to reads. This is a huge scumtell.
Town, if you still haven't made up your minds about Lvdr yet, the above should be a clear reason to vote for a lynch on him.
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Where is everyone? Lynch is less than a day away.
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Wait nvm scratch that last post.
How far away is lynch?
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On August 26 2012 14:33 Lvdr wrote:
Does the town know who made the shot
No. Information on who made what shot will not come from the hosts.
On August 26 2012 21:32 Shady Sands wrote:
Wait nvm scratch that last post.
How far away is lynch?
~12 hours, 20 minutes.
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Honestly. im falling towards lvdr side. either you guys are reading to hard on this or some of you are just trying to get rid of town (scum). During the last hours of D1 he had his vote onto BL locked in, then this mysterious switched appeared and he had to end up sheeping onto obvious. If he never did then, there would have been a no lynch and eyes would have gone onto him for the no lynch regardless. He was just a sheep the last few hours. I lead to believe he is town. Perhaps we should look into the more agressive and assertive speakers such as VE and shady. Are they really helping town by making pointless accusations forcefully. When someone targets VE he will retaliate with force and point at you, is that really town behavior? why are you so affirmitive when you should have nothing hide(so to say). I am not voting lvdr D2. But i am going to keep looking more at the activity of VE more than I am with shady. They may seem like genius town or perhaps they are just hella great at being scums. As Lvdr stated though, VE would be a major blow if he ends up flipping town, but a huge win if he turns scum.
#FoS VE
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