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##Unvote
##Vote Obvious
Why? All he gives is this:
I'm trying to get ONE OF my scumreads lynched and not a townie.
I'm trying to get one of my scumreads lynched. You telling me I'm not doesn't change that.
Well obvious turn townie what is there now to say? Your reads are bad and cannot be trust or perhaps he was protecting BL from this post?
On August 24 2012 06:59 Shady Sands wrote:
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VE you still haven't answered my fucking question. Why is BL innocent.
Because he hasn't been proven guilty to me Shady now shut the hell up. I'm not going over it again. He reads as town to me.
And This
He can't be bothered to defend himself, I'm not going to do it for him. I don't understand why you think this is some big thing. It's really not. You haven't offered any explanation as to why Obvious is town, yet you accuse me of not trying to defend MY townread? Get outta here sir.
So is it fair enough to say that his reads are actually through the though process of a town or perhaps...?
Those who sheeped in the last hours of D1, step up and prove your own belief and win this as town. Lets look into more suspicious activity such as this he only have 12 hours guys. Lets make this the right choice becuase we cannot afford another town loss.
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EWOP:
code messed up first sentence of my post. All those quotes are refering to what VE said during the last hours of the lynch.
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On August 26 2012 20:35 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 14:33 Lvdr wrote:Hmm my read on chez is that he is engaged in the game. His voting patterns look pretty pro-town (extremely active at deadline, seems to be trying to find a good lynch even if he doesn't actually state reasoning) Unfortunately it is very hard (at least for me) to read a troll player. YourHarry's scum game was deadly effective, and it doesn't seem that a troll townie could be all that useful to the town. Not sure why he voted for me, but hopefully there is an explanation at the other end of the rainbow. That being said, I think a vigi shot could be a good call at this point. Does the town know who made the shotRegarding talis, I would give him no better than a null read. 2 points that stuck out to me. 1. The activity is quite low, and not particularly filled with content. I wouldn't call it downright scummy though. 2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836¤tpage=25#497This post latches on to a stretch of a case, complete agreement, no further points made, never revisited beyond his initial AHA moment. Maybe I've talked myself into a scum-read. I have to see how I feel after some-more activity. This point is a classic WIFOM slip. You think chez is engaged. But you don't know since he's trolly. You cite an anecdote from another player in another game who was trolly and flipped scum. You don't know why he voted for you and subtly criticize his troll logic for doing so. And then you finish that part by asking for a vigi shot... on who? Chez for being trolly? Or you? You don't even address any of the other cases on yourself except by saying that you've talked yourself into a scum-read. You just address Chez's case, and even then, only implicitly, because Chez's case is the weakest. On Talis: Both points you cite regarding Talis are clear scumtells. Low content, lurky behavior. But somehow not "downright scummy." Then you cite his largest post as an example of active scumming. Then you say he is a null read. What? This entire post is an attempt to look active without committing to reads. This is a huge scumtell. Town, if you still haven't made up your minds about Lvdr yet, the above should be a clear reason to vote for a lynch on him.
Doesn't this post make it clear that shady is completely nonobjective when it comes to me? This is a null read, but I think it is a good idea for the rest of the town to keep this in mind.
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On August 26 2012 23:00 Kville wrote:
EWOP:
code messed up first sentence of my post. All those quotes are refering to what VE said during the last hours of the lynch.
KVille, I'm actually pretty intrigued by your VE read, since it matches some suspicions I've had myself. Let me ask you this: why would a scum VE want to protect BL, if BL was town?
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To add: but don't let that distract you KV from the big task today: lynching Lvdr. Read through his filter, and tell us what you think.
Also, welcome back to the thread and thanks for participating. I'll try to be nicer in mafia now (sorry Lvdr.)
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That is what im tryimg to figure out as well are we sure bl is town at all? Maybe this is a slip by ve who knows I have work amdi will return on my break around 4 or6est us
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On August 27 2012 01:29 Lvdr wrote:
Shady try being smarter.
Sure. Anyhow, what do you think about KV's post on VE?
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On August 27 2012 01:28 Kville wrote:
That is what I'm trying to figure out as well. Are we sure BL is town at all? Maybe this is a slip by VE. Who knows. I have work and I will return on my break around 4 or 6 EDT US.
Alright. I punctuated and cleaned up your post, btw.
Regardless of whether BL is town or not, the point remains that VE posted in the final few hours of D1 like he had prior knowledge of BL's alignment, which is extremely strange.
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ebwop Extremely strange, given that BL's posting history and Obvious's posting history were near equivalent in terms of scumminess (WIFOM/active lurking), yet VE went with a clear town read on one and a clear scum read on the other.
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ebwop 2 Should read that VE went with a clear town read/scum read without a clear justification on either. He just said "one is town. That's all I'm saying on the matter."
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
Talis is still a better lynch than lvdr, who is at least engaged and giving reads.
Also I'm hoping I will have some proper internet later
##vote talismania
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Ok, so this is what strikes me as a little wierd.
Marv and VE were the most active posters by far D1. But now they've both disappeared. Marv has returned a couple of times to push his Talis theory, and VE hasn't posted in the thread at all.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
Read my filter, I'm away this weekend so phone posting
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Seriously guys, the one thing scum wants is for town to lurk the entire day and then make a hasty decision near the end. WHERE IS EVERYONE
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We are only 7 hours away from lynch now.
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Ok what is the deal here guys?
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##Vote: Talismania
Let's see what happens.
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Is there any thing on talis beside s not being here? I need some more info before I follow this decesion
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EPT
