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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 11 2012 16:57 GMT
#81
On May 12 2012 01:45 Lunares wrote:
Not even using MBS and manually clicking each barracks...and still have that level of macro in SC2. impressive.


Haha, I saw that too.
Still had them all on one hotkey though
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
May 11 2012 16:57 GMT
#82
As expected of flash, only a couple of months training and he's able to show this much. So impressed. The sounds of his swift keystrokes echo in my pleasure center.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
May 11 2012 16:58 GMT
#83
So this means there are now more FPVODs of FlaSh in SC2 than in Brood War right?

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just kidding, but seriously I know it's hard to find many FPVODs of his Brood War play
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
May 11 2012 16:58 GMT
#84
On May 12 2012 01:55 awu25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:53 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:52 zomgE wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
When you're all celebrating and clapping your hands, I hope you all remember that there are two sides to this coin. The world's greatest strategy gamer has arrived for some, but has left for many others. Take a moment to think what is being dismantled to achieve this.

Additionally, the immediate criticism of his speed etc seems like a bit of a lack of respect and understanding. He's only been playing your game for five minutes, go easy.

watchout, we have an elite Starcraft guy here

I just wanted to give people a heads-up, that's all, to spare a thought for the big picture.

I agree with you. Many SC2 players are gonna think Flash is going to immediately be amazing. However, I think he will struggle for a bit. Flash was also known for his game sense and decision making, and this isn't something you can develop in a short amount of time. I think it will take more than several months before Flash has the same "game sense" that he had in BW

This is all so true. I'd be so amazed if Flash is able to dominate the top old school SC2 players in his first SC2 tournament. Wait and see.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
May 11 2012 16:59 GMT
#85
On May 12 2012 01:45 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:43 Anktious wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:35 darkness wrote:
It might be just me, but it seems Flash still needs tons of practice. He didn't seem very fast either.



Flash has never really been known for his super fast speed. His decision making, skill, and critical thinking are what got him to the top of the BW food chain.

"super fast" in terms of broodwar. His apm in broodwar usually floated around 350 apm, versus someone like Jaedong who had 400 apm typically.

Its still really high (and higher than most foreigners)


Actually if I recall he was only around 275-300 average, not even 350 ish. At least I think?
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
May 11 2012 16:59 GMT
#86
On May 12 2012 01:58 Leetley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:55 awu25 wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:53 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:52 zomgE wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
When you're all celebrating and clapping your hands, I hope you all remember that there are two sides to this coin. The world's greatest strategy gamer has arrived for some, but has left for many others. Take a moment to think what is being dismantled to achieve this.

Additionally, the immediate criticism of his speed etc seems like a bit of a lack of respect and understanding. He's only been playing your game for five minutes, go easy.

watchout, we have an elite Starcraft guy here

I just wanted to give people a heads-up, that's all, to spare a thought for the big picture.

I agree with you. Many SC2 players are gonna think Flash is going to immediately be amazing. However, I think he will struggle for a bit. Flash was also known for his game sense and decision making, and this isn't something you can develop in a short amount of time. I think it will take more than several months before Flash has the same "game sense" that he had in BW

This is all so true. I'd be so amazed if Flash is able to dominate the top old school SC2 players in his first SC2 tournament. Wait and see.

His first SC2 tournament will probably be only against other BW players at MLG .
Linog[e]
Profile Joined April 2012
59 Posts
May 11 2012 16:59 GMT
#87
Jesus christ
'Now you’re in the world of the wolves And we welcome all you sheep'
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 11 2012 16:59 GMT
#88
Its probably inbetween his BW practice session thats why he use LMO i would guess in a long run he will change it, but who am i to say this, god can play sc2 with any mouse.
Stork[gm]
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 17:01:57
May 11 2012 17:00 GMT
#89
It was hard to not watch his hands, control, macro, lack of MBS-use... but I found myself constantly looking at his minerals/gas all game. For a guy that just started playing SC2, his resource control is even better than most pros. His builds were so fluid and well timed, and the decision making in that TvT clip was awesome.

It definitely has begun.

edit; was also nice to see him using a separate hotkey for his tanks/army. Nice to see high level players actually use that ability
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
May 11 2012 17:00 GMT
#90
On May 12 2012 01:59 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:58 Leetley wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:55 awu25 wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:53 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:52 zomgE wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
When you're all celebrating and clapping your hands, I hope you all remember that there are two sides to this coin. The world's greatest strategy gamer has arrived for some, but has left for many others. Take a moment to think what is being dismantled to achieve this.

Additionally, the immediate criticism of his speed etc seems like a bit of a lack of respect and understanding. He's only been playing your game for five minutes, go easy.

watchout, we have an elite Starcraft guy here

I just wanted to give people a heads-up, that's all, to spare a thought for the big picture.

I agree with you. Many SC2 players are gonna think Flash is going to immediately be amazing. However, I think he will struggle for a bit. Flash was also known for his game sense and decision making, and this isn't something you can develop in a short amount of time. I think it will take more than several months before Flash has the same "game sense" that he had in BW

This is all so true. I'd be so amazed if Flash is able to dominate the top old school SC2 players in his first SC2 tournament. Wait and see.

His first SC2 tournament will probably be only against other BW players at MLG .


so, the hardest sc2 tourney to date then
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 17:01:40
May 11 2012 17:00 GMT
#91
Should edit the OP, NosSave is QuanticApocalypse the GM Korean Terran.


On May 12 2012 01:59 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:45 Comeh wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:43 Anktious wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:35 darkness wrote:
It might be just me, but it seems Flash still needs tons of practice. He didn't seem very fast either.



Flash has never really been known for his super fast speed. His decision making, skill, and critical thinking are what got him to the top of the BW food chain.

"super fast" in terms of broodwar. His apm in broodwar usually floated around 350 apm, versus someone like Jaedong who had 400 apm typically.

Its still really high (and higher than most foreigners)


Actually if I recall he was only around 275-300 average, not even 350 ish. At least I think?



Flash's apm in sc1 was 330-370.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Nokshalees
Profile Joined March 2012
United States120 Posts
May 11 2012 17:01 GMT
#92
My dick

User was warned for this post
MKP/MVP/Kas/ThorZaiN/Jinro/ForGG | I MAEK HAE BYUNG. | #terranprideworldwide
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
May 11 2012 17:01 GMT
#93
On May 12 2012 01:59 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:45 Comeh wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:43 Anktious wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:35 darkness wrote:
It might be just me, but it seems Flash still needs tons of practice. He didn't seem very fast either.



Flash has never really been known for his super fast speed. His decision making, skill, and critical thinking are what got him to the top of the BW food chain.

"super fast" in terms of broodwar. His apm in broodwar usually floated around 350 apm, versus someone like Jaedong who had 400 apm typically.

Its still really high (and higher than most foreigners)


Actually if I recall he was only around 275-300 average, not even 350 ish. At least I think?


you are correct. he actually had below average apm for a pro korean terran.
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
May 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#94
What is MBS?
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
May 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#95
On May 12 2012 01:59 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:58 Leetley wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:55 awu25 wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:53 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:52 zomgE wrote:
On May 12 2012 01:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
When you're all celebrating and clapping your hands, I hope you all remember that there are two sides to this coin. The world's greatest strategy gamer has arrived for some, but has left for many others. Take a moment to think what is being dismantled to achieve this.

Additionally, the immediate criticism of his speed etc seems like a bit of a lack of respect and understanding. He's only been playing your game for five minutes, go easy.

watchout, we have an elite Starcraft guy here

I just wanted to give people a heads-up, that's all, to spare a thought for the big picture.

I agree with you. Many SC2 players are gonna think Flash is going to immediately be amazing. However, I think he will struggle for a bit. Flash was also known for his game sense and decision making, and this isn't something you can develop in a short amount of time. I think it will take more than several months before Flash has the same "game sense" that he had in BW

This is all so true. I'd be so amazed if Flash is able to dominate the top old school SC2 players in his first SC2 tournament. Wait and see.

His first SC2 tournament will probably be only against other BW players at MLG .

Yeah, I thought of that after making my post. Anyway it will be intresting to see the different 'generations' clash.
BraneSC2
Profile Joined May 2010
United States123 Posts
May 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#96
What a great interesting find. I can't wait to see his full potential in SC2.
No fighting in the war room!
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
May 11 2012 17:03 GMT
#97
I heard from a Korean friend that word is going around that Jaedong is already gm on the KR server D:
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
May 11 2012 17:04 GMT
#98
What he was using MBS... all rax on 4. 5 were facts and 6 ports. 0 all CCs..
Inno pls...
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 17:04:52
May 11 2012 17:04 GMT
#99
On May 12 2012 02:03 QuanticTheognis wrote:
I heard from a Korean friend that word is going around that Jaedong is already gm on the KR server D:


Not true. The only Pro that is GM is Effort, well, in the 'S' class sc1 progamers.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
May 11 2012 17:04 GMT
#100
I wonder if Flash, JD, Bisu, etc. feel pressure switching to a new game. Will they feel like they're failing if they don't perform well immediately? Super glad to see it, and I hope they all live up to the perceived "hype." Especially if Bisu plays Protoss. <3
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