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On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue.
Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it?
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On May 02 2013 03:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:14 Swords wrote:
Really it just seems silly. Here are the options.
1. Watch 2 excellent players play a game with tons of lag.
2. Watch 2 excellent players play a game with no lag.
As an audience member I would definitely pick number 2. Letting them play one series on KR effects absolutely nothing other than the quality of the games you'll be watching. There's pretty clearly more to it than that.
In this situation, no not really.
In the grand scheme of things yes but clearly this is not the issue (at least not for this thread).
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On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it?
Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them?
Why are Major and Hero special?
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Austria24417 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:30 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it? Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them? Why are Major and Hero special?
Not about them being special, it's about the rule being stupid in the first place.
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On May 02 2013 03:20 Danners933 wrote:
This is how it really should be. The fact that WCS NA is being destroyed by Koreans is just stupid. To play in NA you should have to LIVE in NA. I personally do not think the option should be given to play with lag from another region. I would rather see the NA region go to Worlds and get Wrecked with a team full of NA players then Win the Worlds as NA with a team full of Korean players.
In other news, people in rural regions of North and South America with high latency are not allowed to play in WCS.
Also the people making the finals from NA are not a team. They are individuals who earned enough points to go to the finals.
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On May 02 2013 03:30 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it? Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them? Why are Major and Hero special?
Just because he didn't try to dispute this stupid ruling doesn't mean he didn't think about it. Why not start debating it now for the remainder of the matches?
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On May 02 2013 03:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:30 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server.
What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it? Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them? Why are Major and Hero special? Not about them being special, it's about the rule being stupid in the first place.
Suck it up?
I have to put up with Koreans filling up WCS NA, you have to put up with the games having to be played on NA. It's mid-season, the tournament is what the tournament is, work on making the next one better rather then demanding certain players get special exemptions.
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On May 02 2013 03:37 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 03:30 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:
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blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it? Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them? Why are Major and Hero special? Not about them being special, it's about the rule being stupid in the first place. Suck it up? I have to put up with Koreans filling up WCS NA, you have to put up with the games having to be played on NA. It's mid-season, the tournament is what the tournament is, work on making the next one better rather then demanding certain players get special exemptions.
No.
Your problem is a subjective one, theirs is an objective one that hampers their gameplay.
And no matter how many times you keep clamoring that "it's mid-season", the season has only just started, and only 2 of the 8 Ro32 groups have played out.
But you can keep grasping at straws all you please. I love how hardcore you're advocating consistency, but when I pointed out that this rule did not even exist in the first place, or was not made known to the players, you say that it's ok, we have the rule now. Lmfao. GG NO RE.
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Austria24417 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:37 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 03:30 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:
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blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it? Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them? Why are Major and Hero special? Not about them being special, it's about the rule being stupid in the first place. Suck it up? I have to put up with Koreans filling up WCS NA, you have to put up with the games having to be played on NA. It's mid-season, the tournament is what the tournament is, work on making the next one better rather then demanding certain players get special exemptions.
Ah, so that's what this is about.
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On May 02 2013 03:37 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 03:30 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:
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blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it? Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them? Why are Major and Hero special? Not about them being special, it's about the rule being stupid in the first place. Suck it up? I have to put up with Koreans filling up WCS NA, you have to put up with the games having to be played on NA. It's mid-season, the tournament is what the tournament is, work on making the next one better rather then demanding certain players get special exemptions.
There is merit to this argument, since the round of 16 will be in a week or so and all the matches will be offline.(not the Korean's filing up part, that part is dumb) The entire season is done in June. Why make an exception for one set of players when other matches have been played and the online portion is almost finished?
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I just want to say thanks. The yearly drama void left behind by WCG USA is being filled quite nicely by WCS NA 
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On May 02 2013 02:59 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:57 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 02:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 02:51 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server.
What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment You willingly signed up for the tournament, the rules say all games will be played on NA server, the other players abided by that rule. Why do you get special treatment? How is it fair that the rules are changed for certain players when others have already had to play out their matches on NA? How many times do I have to quote Nazgul's post until you people understand that there were no such rules at the time of players signing up? The situation might have been different for the EU event, as evidenced by Nerchio's post, but in this case it clearly was handled poorly. There are rules now Y/N? Players matches have already been effected by those rules Y/N? Giving major an exemption because he decided to rage against the rule or Hero an exemption because Wax rallied the Liquid community is a pile of dross. It's mid-season and the rules are what they are, work to have them changed for the next season. So it's ok that there are rules now, even though those rules weren't there from the outset, but it's not ok to change them from now on? Don't you think that's a silly logic to be employing?
Clearly you've never been the admin or on the board of anything. When there's a vacuum, you have flexibility. Heck, if there's a rule on the books and it hasn't ever come into play, you still have flexibility. However, once it's used, you CANNOT change it midstream, because it has already advantaged and disadvantaged people. Hence why every sports league on the planet only votes on rule changes in the offseason.
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On May 02 2013 03:42 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:37 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 03:30 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing.
so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it? Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them? Why are Major and Hero special? Not about them being special, it's about the rule being stupid in the first place. Suck it up? I have to put up with Koreans filling up WCS NA, you have to put up with the games having to be played on NA. It's mid-season, the tournament is what the tournament is, work on making the next one better rather then demanding certain players get special exemptions. There is merit to this argument, since the round of 16 will be in a week or so and all the matches will be offline. The entire season is done in June. Why make an exception for one set of players when other matches have been played and the online portion is almost finished.
25% is now considered "almost finished"?
Man to think I actually took you guys seriously for a while...
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On May 02 2013 03:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Lmafo. GG NO RE.
Master of Puppets for Good posting Bonjwa eh?
I'm saying that once the rules have effected players games then you stick with a consistent ruleset until the end of the event and then you can make changes to it for future events. Changing the rules on the fly for certain players is straight up bad practice and events rightfully take a lot of flak when they do it.
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On May 02 2013 03:43 Faveokatro wrote:
if there's a rule on the books and it hasn't ever come into play, you still have flexibility. However, once it's used, you CANNOT change it midstream, because it has already advantaged and disadvantaged people. Hence why every sports league on the planet only votes on rule changes in the offseason.
This.
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On May 02 2013 03:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:37 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 03:30 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing.
so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it? Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them? Why are Major and Hero special? Not about them being special, it's about the rule being stupid in the first place. Suck it up? I have to put up with Koreans filling up WCS NA, you have to put up with the games having to be played on NA. It's mid-season, the tournament is what the tournament is, work on making the next one better rather then demanding certain players get special exemptions. Ah, so that's what this is about.
That and the noncompete lockout.
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If the argument to allow them to play on KR is that you want the best possible games, then why aren't more people calling for WCS to be completely offline? That would allow for the best games.
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People outside of NA should not even be allowed to play in WCS NA
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On May 02 2013 03:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:42 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 03:37 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 03:30 TheButtonmen wrote:On May 02 2013 03:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On May 02 2013 02:59 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:
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so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart
Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment So Nestea has to play against another person in KR in sub-optimal conditions(yesterday), but you shouldn't have to because you don't agree with the rule and think it is stupid? I get where you are coming from, but games have already been played by other players with the same issue. Turn it around, why should Nestea have to do it? Because the rules said so when he played his match and he followed them? Why are Major and Hero special? Not about them being special, it's about the rule being stupid in the first place. Suck it up? I have to put up with Koreans filling up WCS NA, you have to put up with the games having to be played on NA. It's mid-season, the tournament is what the tournament is, work on making the next one better rather then demanding certain players get special exemptions. There is merit to this argument, since the round of 16 will be in a week or so and all the matches will be offline. The entire season is done in June. Why make an exception for one set of players when other matches have been played and the online portion is almost finished. 25% is now considered "almost finished"?
The online portion finishes in June.
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Austria24417 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:46 Juggernaut477 wrote:
People outside of NA should not even be allowed to play in WCS NA
Admins should start banning people for this. It's a completely different argument and ultimately always ends up in player bashing.
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