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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
I thought it was the other way round? Oh hey, kita's here. That would have been a vote for Wheatley if you were more active, but if you're busy, you're busy. I'm gonna vote for Blazing. I'd rather have it in the hands of a good player than a new guy who is transparent. I think BH will still be honest about it, but he'll also use it better, whatever the power is. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On March 19 2012 04:58 Foolishness wrote: Though I may be a player in this game I do help run the forum, all the same. This kind of attitude is definitely crude, consider this a warning, you should feel shame. no. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
You know, you should be grateful for the information i am giving to you. A normal townie would see this as a gift, knowing Fakeclaims exist in this game. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
stop posting so i can read the thread. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On March 18 2012 20:25 Adam4167 wrote: Why would you expect someone to oppose this lynch? With all of the different factions at work in this game, he may have no one coming to his aid (3rd party), his teammates may not know they're supposed to be aiding him (sleeper agent) and his team may just be abandoning him for being afk/lurking (mafia). When I read Dirk's post, I thought "Gee, he said a lot of words to say so little", and then on the next page, I see Foolishness making a similar argument. That does two things for me: a) tells me I'm probably on the right track and b) tells me that Foolishness is probably town, since I am town. I agree with you on RayzorFlash, but I question what is the point of this line: "(I guess EVERYBODY will bandwagon on Rayzor right now because he made only 2 posts, right?)" You've made a case against him. Its looks solid enough. Then you try to scare everyone away from agreeing with you by labelling anyone that votes Rayzorflash as a bandwagoner. Did you not want this case to pick up steam? Why make it then? I am genuinely confused as to what you are trying to accomplish. Sarcasm. It was about how everybody would now instantly agree with me and vote for him without any other reasoning. I guess you make a good point about the Sleeper Agents though, although I thought the mafia from another faction (if there is one) would oppose his lynch. On March 18 2012 23:47 Bluelightz wrote: Here it is I think that Dirk - Fluffy fluff fluff, lurking hardcore Sinani - Lurking Drazerk - I'm fairly sure the Balrog is an anti town role, because that Shadow & Flames doesnt sound like a town kill flavor. are anti-town roles, Can't be sure if 3rd party/Scum on either of em. I would be fine for lynching any of the above. Hey you, don't ignore me, respond to my post. I'm getting fed up with this, why would you not respond to someone pressuring you? @Dirk: If you are town, I guess you know not many people like you here, right? If you are town, you don't want to get lynched, right? If you are scum, you know everybody will keep their eye on you so you can't lurk the game away either. Either way, the best course of action for you is to post some reads and thoughts, if not you will most likely be heading towards a certain death. Don't just comment on the Drazerk thing, tell us who other player you think is scum. If you don't think anyone else is scum, then at least tell us who your leading suspicions are, and GIVE SUFFICIENT REASONING behind them. Anyways, *sigh* I 95% agree with Jayjay here. Drazerk, you had your chance to help town and you screwed it, and you made yourself look more like scum trying to confuse town (kind of like Kurumi on JubJub mafia) by insane claims rather than 3rd party thinking straight trying to fulfill his win-con. Also, obviously the anger core is indeed bullshit (at least the description you make from it), but nice try though Anyways, I wanted more discussions taking place, but no other discussion is really being made; so I guess I'll vote Drazerk to secure the lynch (inb4 I'm scum bandwagoning at the last minute herp derp zerp) However, we still have scum to catch people, so I'd like for all the players I mentioned before to post their thoughts and scum reads, and for the people I pressured to respond. On March 19 2012 01:34 Drazerk wrote: Veli is dragon So imagine that was the case.. ...Velinath agreed to be completely transparent with the Wheatley ability, so obviously if it's found that he wasn't he will be instantly killed. That means that he'll have to give town info and play to help us, and even if that was the case we could even agree to a deal with him (to perhaps give him items so he can kill scum, or whatever his role does). He has done 100x things to help town than you. ...oh, and also I don't buy anything you say. Also people, if Foolishness doesn't REALLY step up his game in next days, I wouldn't oppose killing him because I know that's not something he would do as town; considering his rhyming thing is mostly bullshit, and made to confuse town or just have fun/get Science points, but it's not made to help us catch scum. Another thing, the election is very close, and I'd prefer Velinath getting the Wheatley role rather than Blazinghand. I don't have much to think BH is scum rather than "not bright" townie (  ), but I still think Velinath is town and could make better decisions if he communicates everything about his Wheatley role with town.So I guess....thanks for all the people that voted for me...? PRE-EDIT: Okay then, you are most certainly not 3rd party because you threw your only chance for survival down the drain, and should mostly be banned for playing against your win-con and siding with another faction. So, either you get banned and learn how to play properly later, or you are scum, so I guess that's a win-win On March 19 2012 02:53 blubbdavid wrote: JayJay is playing exactly the same like he did in Kaller when he was scum. Yes, this is an OMGUS And here my filter when I played scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315941&user=60919 Oh, again willz?  You do know that trying to appear to contribute, and trying to lead town is 100x times easier in a game filled with noobs and little players? If you are scum but not "strong", "fearless", "vet", etc (like some of the regulars), and you are scum, it won't be easy to do the same things you did in Newbie games in this one. @Rayzor: Respond to my post...NOW. On March 19 2012 03:11 willz22912 wrote: Oh, this is for gonzaw whenever he gets around to reading this. Please stop spamming the thread with multiple questions to multiple people with little to no benefit to town from their responses. I get that you're trying to deny lurking, but it's fairly obvious to see just by checking people's filters and having very active town (which we already have in plenty) I'm coming in as a replacement and I kept myself up to date on this thread but it was really annoying reading through all your shit to see if any of it was actually useful (not all of it was, I'd say maybe 30% to be generous) You're running the risk of being almost detrimental to town by burying all your decent points in too long posts, as well as lowering your credibility since people will start to dislike you because of this posting behavior. There is also the alternate case that you are scum trying to hide by over posting and defending yourself when under suspicion by pointing to your "active" behavior. I have 2 pages of filter; if you can't find the "decent points" it's your own fault. I'm making all the effort I can to make my points clear and easy to read, I'm not Blazinghand from Purgatory Mafia, so please stop this crap @Kita and C_C: If you were inactive until 5 hours before D1 ended, you have A LOT to compensate I want you to read filters, read the thread and give us more thoughts and reasoning behind them. Pick a player you think is scum and analyse him, make a list of reads on every player, whatever you may like, but you guys have given us less information than anybody else (maybe except Cwave >_> ) so you need to step up ##Unvote: RayzorFlash ##Vote: Drazerk ##Unelect: gonzaw ##Elect: Velinath | ||
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RayzorFlash
Canada253 Posts
On March 18 2012 19:53 gonzaw wrote: Apparently "town consensus" right now is to think Foolishness and Blazinghand are town (and have 2nd one get a lot of votes for election). It's also "town consensus" for the lynch to be either Dirk or Drazerk. I find you following this trend without any other justification very weird (i.e suspicious), even more with other players that did so as well (but meh, will get to them later when I get some sleep). I just posted my reads. I guess if you want reasons for why I did so, so here they are... Foolishness spoke sensibly. I agree with a lot of the stuff he's said so far, i.e.: - Draz is very anti-town and needs to die soon - Dirk is lurking and posting fluff, seems scummy - People, including me, are wasting time discussing Portal - The same few active people are posting and causing chaos, while the lurkers get to lurk My town read on BlazingHand is based on the one/two sensible posts he made in the middle, while the rest of the time he was being... well... strange, lets just stick with strange. I had a null read on him, but he did good actual analysis/scumhunting (though I don't agree with lynching Zelblade right now, I'm definitely keeping a closer eye on him as a result), which has so far been pretty rare in this game. I have town-reads on them both, just like I have a town-read on Jayjay now. I don't care if its sheeping the town consensus or not, I feel its just common sense :S... On March 18 2012 19:53 gonzaw wrote: Nothing new said here, except for the "Mafia can kill him for his items". First, why is it bad for mafia to waste their shot on a 3rd party? Second, how can you say "No townie should give their items to Drazerk" and use it to justify "Drazerk should be lynched so mafia have no items when they kill him"? If no townie gives items to Drazerk, then he has no more items and is not a "juicy target". What does that have to do with his lynch? Why is that a reason for lynching him? It's something completely unrelated to his aligment and actions, you should want him lynched to "be safe". Also, wouldn't you think perhaps that maybe a vig could hit him as well, and he (which would be town) would get all those items and (ideally) help town with them? On this point, I thought that if Draz didn't get the items he wanted willfully, then he'll start killing/being even more anti-town to get to his win condition. I'd have no problem with a vigi hitting him either. I basically wanted him lynched/dead/something, but at the hands of town/mostly town and not mafia, ideally before he causes even more chaos than he already had. On March 18 2012 19:53 gonzaw wrote: I've said this before but apparently everybody loves to ignore me: THE WHEATLEY ROLE IS NOT GUARANTEED TO CHANGE HIS ALIGNMENT MID-GAME!! Yeah, I won't talk about this anymore since I think the Wheatley talk distracted us from actually hunting scum, except just that we should keep a close CLOSE eye on whoever gets elected Wheatley (likely to be Velinath) On March 18 2012 19:53 gonzaw wrote: (I guess EVERYBODY will bandwagon on Rayzor right now because he made only 2 posts, right?) Wait wait what? You think I'm scummy, but you don't want people to wagon/actually lynch me?? Are you just setting up for the followup tomorrow or something? Or are you trying to make cases on people so not enough people vote for the majority on Draz?? This line just doesn't make sense and invalidates your post for me. I can't think of ANY reason that a town player would say that :S | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
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RayzorFlash
Canada253 Posts
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
-JayJay is smart -Drazerk is scum or liar -MidnightGladius is someone who I'd like to be mayor but it's unlikely that he will win because he has no votes right now -Blzinghand and Velinath are pretty much the same people, still not sure which of them to vote for but since they pretty much have the same opinions it's not like it matters. -Kenpachi is stupid and spamming up the thread as usual; his scum meta is to lurk AFAIK but I still don't trust him since he has done nothing to make himself look trustworthy. I don't like his apathetic mindset. so anyways ##Vote: Drazerk (also this is my 1000th post, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay) | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On March 19 2012 05:12 RayzorFlash wrote: I guess I should also respond to Gonzaw's post at me... I just posted my reads. I guess if you want reasons for why I did so, so here they are... Foolishness spoke sensibly. I agree with a lot of the stuff he's said so far, i.e.: - Draz is very anti-town and needs to die soon - Dirk is lurking and posting fluff, seems scummy - People, including me, are wasting time discussing Portal - The same few active people are posting and causing chaos, while the lurkers get to lurk My town read on BlazingHand is based on the one/two sensible posts he made in the middle, while the rest of the time he was being... well... strange, lets just stick with strange. I had a null read on him, but he did good actual analysis/scumhunting (though I don't agree with lynching Zelblade right now, I'm definitely keeping a closer eye on him as a result), which has so far been pretty rare in this game. I have town-reads on them both, just like I have a town-read on Jayjay now. I don't care if its sheeping the town consensus or not, I feel its just common sense :S... Ehm, so what do you think about Foolishness rhymes? Do you think they are a legit post restriction or bullshit? If you think the former, then what do you think about mods granting Foolishness Science points for doing the rhymes? Why would a mod grant someone "gratification points" just for following their post restriction? If you think the latter, then how do you think him rhyming helps town at all? So, if you think Foolishness is speaking sensibly, who do you think is speaking sensibly other than him? On this point, I thought that if Draz didn't get the items he wanted willfully, then he'll start killing/being even more anti-town to get to his win condition. I'd have no problem with a vigi hitting him either. I basically wanted him lynched/dead/something, but at the hands of town/mostly town and not mafia, ideally before he causes even more chaos than he already had. The point is...that's not a "reason" to get him lynched per se, it's only a "perk" of him getting lynched. Think of it this way: If Draz was town, and had items, then scum could have still killed him at night to get his items. Therefore that is not a reason to get someone lynched (since he would be town). I guess I won't ask you for ALL the reasons for lynching Draz though, since they are clearly apparent. However, I didn't like that Dirk "bandwagon read" you posted. Can you state reads on other people that weren't exhaustively mentioned by now? For instance, what do you think about Lanaia and Zephird? Yeah, I won't talk about this anymore since I think the Wheatley talk distracted us from actually hunting scum, except just that we should keep a close CLOSE eye on whoever gets elected Wheatley (likely to be Velinath) You wanted to policy kill Wheatley, that's not just "keeping a close eye on him". Wait wait what? You think I'm scummy, but you don't want people to wagon/actually lynch me?? Are you just setting up for the followup tomorrow or something? Or are you trying to make cases on people so not enough people vote for the majority on Draz?? This line just doesn't make sense and invalidates your post for me. I can't think of ANY reason that a town player would say that :S I guess you were writting your post before I made mine before (ours are just 2 minutes apart), so its not our fault for missing my previous post. So I suggest reading 1 post up from yours if you want that answer. | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
Are people able to trade or give Science collab points? (huhu Liar Game reference) | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On March 19 2012 05:28 blubbdavid wrote: EBWOP: Are people able to trade or give Science collab points? (huhu Liar Game reference) You are merely a test subject, not a scientist. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On March 19 2012 02:16 GreYMisT wrote: willz22912 is replacing vaderseven. Sorry bout this guys RL took over and I will be gone for random multi days at a time over next few weeks. GL & HF. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Vote Count Dirk Hardpec (3): phagga, Adam4167, Cwave, Drazerk (18): Jayjay54, Dirk Hardpec, MidnightGladius, blubbdavid, Velinath, Mr. Wiggles, Maverick32x, Blazinghand, zelblade, Zephirdd, Ghost_403, Grackaroni, Lanaia, willz22912, RayzorFlash, Foolishness, gonzaw, Nisani201 Sinani206 (1): Bluelightz, Bluelightz (1): Paperscraps Kitaman27 (1): Hassybaby Jayjay54 (1): Kenpachi Kenpachi (1): Cyber_Cheese Election Count MidnightGladius (1): MidnightGladius Velinath (13): Velinath, RayzorFlash, Paperscraps, Ghost_403, Sbrubbles, Foolishness, Maverick32x, Adam4167, blubbdavid, Grackaroni, Jayjay54, Mr. Wiggles, gonzaw Blazinghand (12): Blazinghand, Drazerk, Sinani206, Lanaia, Bluelightz, zelblade, Cwave, Zephirdd, Kenpachi, willz22912, Hassybaby, Cyber_Cheese Remember Voting is mandatory for both the lynch and the election votes! The Day ends in about 2 hours and 30 minutes. With 30 Alive it takes 16 to lynch!!! | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 18 2012 05:27 Jayjay54 wrote: Another player I'd like to address is sinani. into felt really artificial. this was the defense post: I mean, it's ok I guess. But it certainly is not WOOOOW TOWN DEFENCE WTF? his other posts are pretty thin-reasoned. I'd like to repost this, because it got flooded. This looked really scummy to me. A 180° reaction test D1? What did he expect veli to say? That he'd say "Yea dude you got me, I am scum?" Nisani your 1000th post basically starts with Jayjay is smart. Totally appropriate :D (btw: you were already on two lurkers list including mine). Also, it is not a freaking post restriction. As gonzaw pointed out, he got points for it. So it's completely random or a secret high level cell language  | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 19 2012 05:40 Jayjay54 wrote: Also, it is not a freaking post restriction. As gonzaw pointed out, he got points for it. So it's completely random or a secret high level cell language Foolishness that is | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 19 2012 04:25 Dirk Hardpec wrote: In order to defend myself, Foolishness, you must provide something I can defend against. Your sole complaint was that I used many words to say very little, and well... if that's your criteria for scumhunting I guess I must be scum. I tried to openly explain my thought process behind disbelieveing Drazerk's claim, and I still do think he will flip scum and not 3rd party or some other faction. Just think about it for a little while, what is the point of having a third party in the game that town does not want/need to get rid of? the chances of there being such a third party are very little. It would also make for a very uninteresting role, as that person's best interest is to claim day1 and then just play whatever minigame they're in. No, the only people it makes sense for to claim such a third party are mafia. I will be voting Blazinghand into office. His explanation of the drazerk situation was both correct and funny. When Drazerk flips scum, we will lynch with imputiny anyone who tried to actively push the idea that he couldn't be scum because of how he played. ##Elect Blazinghand GUYS GUYS GUYS - This guy needs to die | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
6. Kitaman27 12. Sinani206 18. Drazerk 26. Sbrubbles Total Players Who have yet to Elect: (4) 6. Kitaman27 16. Nisani201 29. Phagga 31. Dirk Hardpec | ||
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