EPTOn January 06 2014 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
The second mission failed. There were 3 sabotages.
The second mission failed. There were 3 sabotages.
Yeah...nice try Grack
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
Yeah...nice try Grack | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
Proposed Team: Grackaroni, Corazon, VisceraEyes, raynpelikoneet Team 1 Current Leader: Grackaroni Final Vote Count: VisceraEyes: Yay Corazon: Yay Koshi: Nay Coagulation: Yay Hopeless1der: Yay [UoN] Sentinel: Yay raynpelikoneet: Nay Grackaroni: Nay Chairman Ray: Nay Grackaroni, Corazon, VisceraEyes, and raynpelikoneet have been sent on a mission after a close 5-4 vote! Night 2 Deadline for Spies to Sabotage the Mission: 04:00 GMT (+00:00) Countdown: Sorry about the late post...I don't know where Alakaslam went... | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
I'm unsure of what's going on with Grack. I thought he was town for a while... maybe not... Adam/Coag-Hopeless-Grack might be the scumteam after all based on the voting. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9844 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9844 Posts
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VisceraEyes
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
The proper play for town, both for town inside the mission and outside the mission, was to withhold your vote. The reason is because if this mission has only town players, then spies have to reject it or else the game ends. If this mission has all town, then all we do is send the same team or the next two mission and then we win it 3-1. There is very little room for spies to be meta, but I will still explain the spy meta for our consideration. For town players who are outside the mission, if there are two passes from outside the mission, then the mission must be rejected. If there are all town players in the mission, then there should be three spies outside the mission who should reject it. Given that there are four players outside the mission other than yourself, once there are two yays, then it is no longer possible to have three nays. For town players who are inside the mission, if there are three passes from outside the mission, then the mission must be rejected. The reasoning follows very similarly to above, but one extra person since you cannot exclude yourself. So from my perspective, I had to withhold my vote until there are two yays from people outside the mission. Once that occurs, then I have to reject it. I had to depend on the town people inside the mission to withhold their vote as well. Obviously I couldn't straight out say it or else spies could just easily counter it. I knew rayn would make the proper play and withhold his vote, and I slipped a hint to Grack by saying that a leader should withhold his vote. They both rejected the mission, but one of the town outside the mission yayed it, so unfortunately this mission has to go. Before I go into what we should do for the next mission, I'll just quickly go over the spy meta that can occur. If a spy sees that the mission has all town, then they could either reject it and hope that two town reject it as well, or they can employ a meta play and pass it. There are four town on the mission, three spies outside the mission, and two town outside the mission. The spies outside the mission must vote yay until there are two yay votes from outside the mission. So two of them can yay it, or they can wait for a town to yay and then only put one yay in. This will force the town from outside the mission to reject it if they catch on. I feel that there is a very low chance that spies decided to do this, because there are some non-experienced Resistance players, and depending on town to catch on and make the proper play to reject is unreliable. Anyways, this is what we must do for the next mission. The next mission will fail, so there has to be a spy among Grack, VE, Cora, Rayn. Let's just say one for now, because I don't want to believe that two town from outside the mission yayed it. But the case where there are two will still be considered. Since Sentinel was the 5th yay, he is absolutely confirmed as spy. As I explained above, spies can be meta for the first few votes, but they cannot be meta for the 5th yay since that's where it ends. When there are two yays from inside the mission and two yays from outside, then a town outside the mission absolutely cannot yay it. This confirms Sentinel as spy. Coag and Hopeless are the two others from outside the mission that yayed it. If there is a spy in the mission, one of them has to be a spy because they yayed it. If there is not a spy in the mission, and the spies are trying to be meta, this also means that one of them has to be a spy. Yes, it is possible that they are both town and decided to throw the game, so if we lose, they're to blame. At this point, we have to assume that one of them is a spy. There's also another exception where Sentinel is town and he just messed up, but that still just means that two out of Coag, Hopeless, and Sentinel are spies. I think I'm gonna be going this route because it's the safest and assumes the least, and also I think all three of them are quite scummy. Koshi did something very important during the vote. Once the vote began, he said twice that he was gonna yay the mission, then he failed it. Let's just say he was a spy for a second. If there was a spy on the mission, by saying that he's gonna yay the mission, it bring skepticism to towns and makes them want to reject it more. If there was no a spy on the mission, then we'll know soon enough. Now if Koshi was town, then he could be saying that he was gonna yay this mission because spies would see that and be baited into giving a yay vote in hopes that Koshi the town would yay it with them. It also keeps other town on their toes since a player from outside the mission is supporting it. So basically, what Koshi did was strictly a good town play and would not be done by spy. So from here on, I would like to 100% confirm Koshi as town for that reason, and for the reason that I refuse to believe that there are two town among Coag, Hopeless, and Sentinel. Having all of them play scummy, and two of them messing up and yay voting is too far-fetched, and even if town loses because of this, it's more their fault than mine. We also have to confirm that I am town as well because I was the only other person from outside the mission to reject it. If this mission fails, there is no more room for information gathering, and we have to send all town for the mission, so I absolutely have to go on the mission. Out of the people in the mission, I feel most comfortable with rayn since he's playing most consistently good town plays, so I want him on the next mission as well. So my recommendations for the next mission: -Chairman Ray -Koshi -Rayn -??? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
In the thick of night, the four men approached the Spy stronghold, hoping to finally make a dent in the Spy's oppresive regime. Alas, all did not go as planned. Once again, one of the four betrayed the Resistance and sabotaged the mission. The four men returned, having failed once again. The second mission failed. There was one sabotage. If a third mission fails, the Resistance loses! Hopeless1der must propose a team of 4 people to head the mission. He may include himself. Day 3: Phase 1 Team 1 Current Leader: Hopeless1der Deadline to Propose a Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00) Countdown: | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
I hope you are right about rayn. But yeah after this mission we will have to pick all town from then on and I guess that we need rayn to be town even though this Hopeless guy is hyper active. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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VisceraEyes
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
-Koshi -Rayn -broag Send it | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On January 06 2014 07:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn on two failed missions. Rayn doesn't get to go on missions anymore. how about sending me in his place. i have gone on zero failed missions | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
2 scummers from Coag/Hopeless/CR 1 scummer from the team (Grack?) I'm thinking rayn/koshi/cora/VE | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On January 06 2014 08:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I really fucked this one up. 2 scummers from Coag/Hopeless/CR 1 scummer from the team (Grack?) I'm thinking rayn/koshi/cora/VE Really? really? | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
That's what I am thinking since a VERY long time. | ||
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