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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 17:17 GMT
#781
I am not as interested in seeing Keirathi die now, regardless of Adam's flip. I disagree with Acro there completely. The correct conclusion to come to here is that Adam is the better lynch of the two, as I outlined. No matter what Adam flips, Keir was legitimately hunting him as mafia, I believe.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 26 2013 17:18 GMT
#782
Going to not really be around in the next 18 hours. Real life.

Have fun :D
No gg, No skill.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
February 26 2013 17:18 GMT
#783
On February 27 2013 02:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hapa, is keir playing to his town meta or scum meta?


To neither. Kei is much more active than this as both alignments.

Thing is, Kei has done nothing to show me that he's town, and having played a couple of games with Adam, I find it really doubtful that he'd pull something like this as scum.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#784
What I really find lacking is either of these people arguing why the other is scum.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 17:30 GMT
#785
We could treat it like Nominations from last game.

Both people scumhunt other people and we choose the least believable after the fact.

Let's do it.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 26 2013 17:37 GMT
#786
On February 27 2013 02:18 Hapahauli wrote:
Thing is, Kei has done nothing to show me that he's town, and having played a couple of games with Adam, I find it really doubtful that he'd pull something like this as scum.


Wait what? How many games have you played with Kei?

You are calling Keirathi scummy for not playing to his town meta or his scum meta, but Adam is not scum because he isnt playing to his scum meta, or his town meta as Acro showed.

How did you get this reasoning?
No gg, No skill.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
February 26 2013 17:37 GMT
#787
^ I like that plan.

Unless Adam or Kei have really damning evidence that the other is scum, it really doesn't matter what they think of one another at this point. No matter their alignment, anything they give is going to be completely un-objective since they're fighting for their own survival.

Having two people fling shit at each other isn't going to be productive. I'd rather see their other scum-hunting efforts.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
February 26 2013 17:42 GMT
#788
Oh damnit sniped by Oats.

On February 27 2013 02:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 02:18 Hapahauli wrote:
Thing is, Kei has done nothing to show me that he's town, and having played a couple of games with Adam, I find it really doubtful that he'd pull something like this as scum.


Wait what? How many games have you played with Kei?

You are calling Keirathi scummy for not playing to his town meta or his scum meta, but Adam is not scum because he isnt playing to his scum meta, or his town meta as Acro showed.

How did you get this reasoning?


I've played a couple of games with Kei, and heavily obs'd some more games that he was in.

And you're completely twisting my argument. Yes Kei is playing differently than I've seen him play as both alignments in the past. However, I'm voting Kei right now because Adam's actions make very little sense from a scum-Adam perspective (given meta, demeanor, bravery, etc), and Kei has given me no reason to think he's town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
February 26 2013 17:44 GMT
#789
On February 27 2013 02:17 yamato77 wrote:
I am not as interested in seeing Keirathi die now, regardless of Adam's flip. I disagree with Acro there completely. The correct conclusion to come to here is that Adam is the better lynch of the two, as I outlined. No matter what Adam flips, Keir was legitimately hunting him as mafia, I believe.

That you disagree with me is because you haven't properly read my posts. I am also less interested in a Keir flip than an Adam flip at this point. However, I am not UNinterested in a Keir flip.

That is what is troubling me at the moment. If we kill Adam and he flips town, we will have wasted a day and Keir will still be a useless lurker with a good chance of flipping scum.

I agree with the plan that they have to scumhunt their asses off.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 26 2013 17:44 GMT
#790
Hapa, why are you playing so differently this game?

On January 26 2013 10:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 10:12 xsksc wrote:
Oh hai Hapa, we haven't met. Wanna play Prom's game for me?
Tell me about yourself. What are your strengths and what are your weaknesses?


I've been playing TL Mafia for... 6 months I think? I coach newbie towns a lot, and I love me some mini-mafia games.

Well I'm far from objective about my own strengths and weaknesses. In terms of a self-assessment though, I like to have a high thread-presence and get in the thick of things. Basically I'm town, I'm spammy, and I'll likely build 20 page filter by the time I get shot.


In Normal Mini, you played for 24 hours and had a 3 page filter, here you almost played for 48, GUESS WHAT? Also a 3 page filter. Where is the high thread-presence and spammyness you are talking about?
Also you seem to be posting a lot more freely in Normal mini than in this game.

No gg, No skill.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 17:47 GMT
#791
Oats, I know you play your own game and listen to no one else during mafia, but right now our best course of action is to not start making accusations when we have no way to back them up.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 26 2013 17:48 GMT
#792
Im confused yamato..

So you want the thread to stagnate while we wait for adam and Keir to scumhunt?
Or what else do you propose that we do?
No gg, No skill.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
February 26 2013 17:51 GMT
#793
On February 27 2013 02:42 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh damnit sniped by Oats.

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 02:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 27 2013 02:18 Hapahauli wrote:
Thing is, Kei has done nothing to show me that he's town, and having played a couple of games with Adam, I find it really doubtful that he'd pull something like this as scum.


Wait what? How many games have you played with Kei?

You are calling Keirathi scummy for not playing to his town meta or his scum meta, but Adam is not scum because he isnt playing to his scum meta, or his town meta as Acro showed.

How did you get this reasoning?


I've played a couple of games with Kei, and heavily obs'd some more games that he was in.

And you're completely twisting my argument. Yes Kei is playing differently than I've seen him play as both alignments in the past. However, I'm voting Kei right now because Adam's actions make very little sense from a scum-Adam perspective (given meta, demeanor, bravery, etc), and Kei has given me no reason to think he's town.

If you take Adam's meta, demeanor and bravery into account, how can you ignore his town meta? He has never done anything remotely like pulling a stunt like this. Not in CT, not in WLIIA and not in LIX. The other games I recall from him are Hero where he was scum and a couple of games where he was modkilled for inactivity.

Please explain how meticulous Adam, who writes cautious cases deliberating different angles, suddenly throws caution to the wind and says "FUCK YOU, I'M PALMAR BITCHES". What part of Adam's town meta am I missing?
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 26 2013 17:56 GMT
#794
Is it curious to anyone else why Thrawn has had very little to say at all now that the duel is on? What's his reaction to not having to duel? He seems very... unconcerned.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 26 2013 18:02 GMT
#795
so there is a lot of talk about what adam has done, and adam's meta, but everyone is brushing over talking about keir. remember that regardless of how you rate his point against adam.... that point is all he's talked about the whole game. he's also said that thrawn's scum because of meta... not a very hard statement to make. he has done absolutely nothing all game yet somehow lots of you have townreads on him? if you are one of the people who have a town read an keir, pls explain
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 26 2013 18:11 GMT
#796
i might switch to double lynch if some of the adam voters will too
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 26 2013 18:13 GMT
#797
On February 27 2013 03:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
so there is a lot of talk about what adam has done, and adam's meta, but everyone is brushing over talking about keir. remember that regardless of how you rate his point against adam.... that point is all he's talked about the whole game. he's also said that thrawn's scum because of meta... not a very hard statement to make. he has done absolutely nothing all game yet somehow lots of you have townreads on him? if you are one of the people who have a town read an keir, pls explain


You always talk about yourself in the third person?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 26 2013 18:14 GMT
#798
sometimes it makes stuff easier to understand
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
February 26 2013 18:16 GMT
#799
On February 27 2013 03:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
i might switch to double lynch if some of the adam voters will too

Err, it's instant majority, so unless you won't be around to hammer Keir if he approaches the 8 votes needed to lynch, you can safely make that statement by unvoting.

Mind explaining how unconcerned you seemed about the duel? You were around at the time, so give us your story. Did the duel come out of the blue? It did for me as I was reading it. You seem pretty calm:
On February 26 2013 16:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote: Keirathi

adam mind explaining why you had to call for the duel right now?

Mind explaining your thought process at the time?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 26 2013 18:19 GMT
#800
On February 27 2013 03:16 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 03:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
i might switch to double lynch if some of the adam voters will too

Err, it's instant majority, so unless you won't be around to hammer Keir if he approaches the 8 votes needed to lynch, you can safely make that statement by unvoting.

Mind explaining how unconcerned you seemed about the duel? You were around at the time, so give us your story. Did the duel come out of the blue? It did for me as I was reading it. You seem pretty calm:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 16:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote: Keirathi

adam mind explaining why you had to call for the duel right now?

Mind explaining your thought process at the time?


This tunneling on the idea of the double lynch is incredibly scummy. Let it go, there's no way we're double lynching today, stop dissuading people from placing votes...


I like the idea of a scumhunt challenge, just wish it was actually happening.
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