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On February 08 2013 10:36 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 08 2013 10:27 Snarfs wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here from now until deadline, just working on some homework on the side.
I haven't had a time to go back over JX's games, but I'm in the same boat as Palmar. Just from a cursory glance, I don't see anything scum-motivated. I like how you literally just said you're in the same boat as someone who's not even playing the game. You're spinning my words to make it sound how you want it to sound. That's scummy. You're scum.
Please explain to me the two things from JX, and how they are town-motivated or NOT alignment indicative.
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His first post = a case on Mocsta. Specifically the focus of the case being pre-game commentary.
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Last night when he becamse active, starts questioning Djo motives (multiple times)
Then picks onto grammar issues with reads on Oats (and completely misinterprets the commentary) again multiple times
Once I threw some doubt onto Palmar, he immediately bandwagons the vote. with "I agree"
Proceeds to make the 180' case on Oats; which is really alignment null for Oats.. im still surprised prplhz jumped all over him for that.
Once I put the limelight back on JX, he disappears (him, me, Djo, Oats are all the same timezone btw)
Im not seeing how all those points are town/alignment null indicators, so I am keen for your insight.
(because of top of those actions, you have the meta case on him from Yamato)
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Snarfs, you havent actually linked VE's meta in this game to his meta in his scum game. Care to do so? Or you just want to tunnel him to oblivion.
Have your read changed since your vote?
Since VE isnt gonna get lynched today, Snarfs, are you gonna waste your vote?
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On February 08 2013 10:43 Snarfs wrote:
There's a difference between what someone "literally says" and what someone means. I meant that I agreed with Palmar's stance on JX and I would assume that's how most players would interpret it.
Snarfs, I think to promote good town atmosphere we need to avoid taking this easy stances without justification.
This to me is no different than "sheeping" and is not helping me discern you as town or scum.
Please, if you agree with someones rational, at least point out why.
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Canada1006 Posts
On February 08 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 10:36 Snarfs wrote:On February 08 2013 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 08 2013 10:27 Snarfs wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here from now until deadline, just working on some homework on the side.
I haven't had a time to go back over JX's games, but I'm in the same boat as Palmar. Just from a cursory glance, I don't see anything scum-motivated. I like how you literally just said you're in the same boat as someone who's not even playing the game. You're spinning my words to make it sound how you want it to sound. That's scummy. You're scum. Please explain to me the two things from JX, and how they are town-motivated or NOT alignment indicative. (1) His first post = a case on Mocsta. Specifically the focus of the case being pre-game commentary.
He could have believed Mocsta was scum? He follows up by comparing your meta. And he tries to question you on your apparent change in meta. There's no scum motive here.
Btw Mocsta what happened to the level headed guy I knew? You're yelling at oats like Vivax
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Last night when he becamse active, starts questioning Djo motives (multiple times)
Then picks onto grammar issues with reads on Oats (and completely misinterprets the commentary) again multiple times
Once I threw some doubt onto Palmar, he immediately bandwagons the vote. with "I agree"
Proceeds to make the 180' case on Oats; which is really alignment null for Oats.. im still surprised prplhz jumped all over him for that.
Once I put the limelight back on JX, he disappears (him, me, Djo, Oats are all the same timezone btw)
Im not seeing how all those points are town/alignment null indicators, so I am keen for your insight.
(because of top of those actions, you have the meta case on him from Yamato)
Bad town explains all those things. In fact, you pointing it out makes it sound even more like bad town. Why would scum call someone out for something as dumb as that? Why would scum make a complete 180 and draw a bunch of attention to themselves?
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Canada1006 Posts
On February 08 2013 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Snarfs, you havent actually linked VE's meta in this game to his meta in his scum game. Care to do so? Or you just want to tunnel him to oblivion.
Have your read changed since your vote?
Since VE isnt gonna get lynched today, Snarfs, are you gonna waste your vote?
I've tried to make myself as clear as possible in linking VE's meta to this game. I think that some other people who have played with VE in the past are also picking up on it so I feel like I'm finally starting to make my point.
And I think JX is gonna get lynched either way.
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On February 08 2013 10:53 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2013 10:36 Snarfs wrote:On February 08 2013 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 08 2013 10:27 Snarfs wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here from now until deadline, just working on some homework on the side.
I haven't had a time to go back over JX's games, but I'm in the same boat as Palmar. Just from a cursory glance, I don't see anything scum-motivated. I like how you literally just said you're in the same boat as someone who's not even playing the game. You're spinning my words to make it sound how you want it to sound. That's scummy. You're scum. Please explain to me the two things from JX, and how they are town-motivated or NOT alignment indicative. (1) His first post = a case on Mocsta. Specifically the focus of the case being pre-game commentary. He could have believed Mocsta was scum? He follows up by comparing your meta. And he tries to question you on your apparent change in meta. There's no scum motive here. Show nested quote +Btw Mocsta what happened to the level headed guy I knew? You're yelling at oats like Vivax Show nested quote +
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Last night when he becamse active, starts questioning Djo motives (multiple times)
Then picks onto grammar issues with reads on Oats (and completely misinterprets the commentary) again multiple times
Once I threw some doubt onto Palmar, he immediately bandwagons the vote. with "I agree"
Proceeds to make the 180' case on Oats; which is really alignment null for Oats.. im still surprised prplhz jumped all over him for that.
Once I put the limelight back on JX, he disappears (him, me, Djo, Oats are all the same timezone btw)
Im not seeing how all those points are town/alignment null indicators, so I am keen for your insight.
(because of top of those actions, you have the meta case on him from Yamato)
Bad town explains all those things. In fact, you pointing it out makes it sound even more like bad town. Why would scum call someone out for something as dumb as that? Why would scum make a complete 180 and draw a bunch of attention to themselves?
JX posts he is fully aware of his town meta, and tries to replicate it.
I guess the biggest challenge of this game is deciding between bad townie / scum.
I dont think the 180' case draws attention to JX, in fact, it took him off the limelight, and suddenly propped oats as a lynch contender. (Yes this can be done as town or scum trying to save their ass)
My problem is the constant testing of waters fro mocsta,-> djo -> palmar -> oats.. thats scummy to me, and not indicative of taking a firm stance (which is tpyically a town trait)
either way 5min to lynch, we will find out shortly whether the meta is right or wrong.
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Canada1006 Posts
On February 08 2013 10:46 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 10:43 Snarfs wrote:
There's a difference between what someone "literally says" and what someone means. I meant that I agreed with Palmar's stance on JX and I would assume that's how most players would interpret it. Snarfs, I think to promote good town atmosphere we need to avoid taking this easy stances without justification. This to me is no different than "sheeping" and is not helping me discern you as town or scum. Please, if you agree with someones rational, at least point out why.
Because he hasn't done anything with scum motive. I don't know how else to explain it besides in that last post addressing your questions. Everything could be explained by some form of bad town.
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Jsut got up.. Why do I have votes on 2 people in the vote count?
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On February 08 2013 10:58 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 10:46 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2013 10:43 Snarfs wrote:
There's a difference between what someone "literally says" and what someone means. I meant that I agreed with Palmar's stance on JX and I would assume that's how most players would interpret it. Snarfs, I think to promote good town atmosphere we need to avoid taking this easy stances without justification. This to me is no different than "sheeping" and is not helping me discern you as town or scum. Please, if you agree with someones rational, at least point out why. Because he hasn't done anything with scum motive. I don't know how else to explain it besides in that last post addressing your questions. Everything could be explained by some form of bad town.
I wrote that post before you replied to the other points.
That was a comment in general, i dont think anyone should get away with sheeping.
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United States22154 Posts
Voting Closed. Final post and votecount forthcoming.
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Snarfs, I DONT SEE THE META LINK.
I see you posting 2 games, 1 of which he is town and 1 of which is scum. I dont see how you linked the scum game to this game. All I did was to see the differences in those games.
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United States22154 Posts
Day 1 Vote Count:
Oatsmaster (1):
Mocsta
Mocsta,
Djodref
JieXian
Mocsta (0):
Mocsta
Oatsmaster
JieXian
Yamato77
VisceraEyes (2):
Snarfs
prplhz
prplhz (1):
Palmar
VisceraEyes
Mocsta
Palmar (1):
VisceraEyes
Djodref
Oatsmaster
Mocsta
JieXian
Yamato77 (0):
SlOosh
Mocsta
Snarfs (0):
Mr. Cheesecake
Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes
Djodref (0):
jaybrundage
SlOosh (0):
Oatsmaster
JieXian (7):
Yamato77
Phagga
Oatsmaster
Mocsta
Oatsmaster
Mocsta
Mr. Cheesecake
jaybrundage
VisceraEyes
JieXian has been sentenced. slOosh has not voted. PM me if you see any mistakes with this count
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I woke up an hour too late
scum has got to be among mocsta oats VE + someone who was defending me
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:X bye then sorry for the post
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fuckn serious your a vt?
man.. this sucks
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Canada1006 Posts
On February 08 2013 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Snarfs, I DONT SEE THE META LINK.
I see you posting 2 games, 1 of which he is town and 1 of which is scum. I dont see how you linked the scum game to this game. All I did was to see the differences in those games.
The link is that he's playing more like the scum game than the town game. It's in the way he pushes and tries to get information from people.
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United States22154 Posts
Dawn of Day 2
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"Voting has closed."
"Sentencing in progress."
A tally appears on the screen, the result, indubitable, the man known as JieXian, #10, had received the most votes.
He crumpled on his chair, defeated, merely awaiting his fate. His fate came swiftly, as a pit opened below his feet and he plummeted.
On the screen, the #10 turned from black to #10
"Not found in any government databases." the voice spoke, cold and emotionless like death.
"Voting: Round Two will commence at the end of the timer."
And the countdown began again
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JieXian the Manager of Social Resources (Vanilla Townie) has been sentenced.
slOosh has received a non-voting warning, if he fails to reply to the warning or is found in violation of the rules again, he will be forcibly replaced.
Scum have roughly 23:50 minutes to get their nominations in to me and BioSC by PM.
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