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MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
June 09 2013 16:27 GMT
#7521
On June 10 2013 01:08 HBmaKro wrote:
as long as its not korean announcers.


Move on.
F u r u y a
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 16:32:25
June 09 2013 16:32 GMT
#7522
On June 10 2013 01:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
Secondly, Day9 and Apollo's casting was embarrassing. They either were sleep deprived, drunk or something else was seriously wrong. They weren't actually saying anything half the time, they whistling, going "dum de dum" and whatnot during the battles. I had to apologize to the people (not so into SC as me) who I showed the finals to.

That VOD you watched is from the secondary stream (wcs_osl2), where the casters who are not casting sit in a couch with some guests and just chill.

You might want to watch from wcs_osl or wcs_gsl.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1181 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 16:33:31
June 09 2013 16:32 GMT
#7523
The VOD section of this thread links to broken links. Can someone provide a working link for the grand finals it would be much appreciated.

edit: Thanks to the guy above I found the wcs_osl2 VODs
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 09 2013 16:33 GMT
#7524
On June 10 2013 01:32 F u r u y a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 01:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
Secondly, Day9 and Apollo's casting was embarrassing. They either were sleep deprived, drunk or something else was seriously wrong. They weren't actually saying anything half the time, they whistling, going "dum de dum" and whatnot during the battles. I had to apologize to the people (not so into SC as me) who I showed the finals to.

That VOD you watched is from the secondary stream (wcs_osl2), where the casters who are not casting sit in a couch with some guests and just chill.

You might want to watch from wcs_osl or wcs_gsl.


Ok, thanks. I'll continue my search for a proper vod.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
June 09 2013 16:43 GMT
#7525
On June 10 2013 01:16 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 22:51 farnham wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:49 KobraKay wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:37 TheShimmy wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:29 Epamynondas wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

wasnt that said about sc2?

I have no idea about how it was with bw, but from what I've heard it's gotten way better with sc2? As in we don't have to throw a party every time a foreigner takes a game off a korean.


Maybe not in WCS America or WCS EU, but in old GSL's (old? Like three years ago. Wow has SC2 really been out this long???) Naniwa and other foreigners who could advance were the white man's King of Kings in starcraft. In BW there was a similar trend. Foreigners like Grrr (eSports hall of famer) and Idra had success with Koreans but eventually the Korean dominance takes over. More to the point, when Thorzain won a game in Proleague we did indeed throw a party.


That is not in the "old GSL's" or 3 years ago for that matter. In the beggining you had Jinro and Idra going far, that was something like 3 years ago

Then there was Huk...after that Naniwa. And even now, sometimes you get a win from a korean. Its still better than it was in BW.

Also Idra had no success with koreans in bw. He was on Estro and CJ and was good in foreigner terms but Im not sure you can say he had success in bw with koreans.

People forget guillaume patry and bertand gospellier


Compare the game back then to how BW is now? You cannot even compare the two. We had so many eras man and that era was just as BoxeR was emerging. There is no comparison.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 22:10 Mariosatr wrote:
On June 09 2013 20:59 CR1PPLeR wrote:
I feel that Kings of Liberty (MVP and MC) will make a big comeback in WCS season 2 to claim back their thrones. An MVP vs MC WCS season 2 final would be epic.

If NesTea breaks through in WCS AM too, Mvp NesTea MC top 3 would be epic.


Chances of that happening sound improbable.

Mathematically possible. Let's settle for that. And while we're at it throw in Losira too.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Fortis-Et-Fidus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 16:57:03
June 09 2013 16:56 GMT
#7526
No VODS at all? the osl2 stream is still live but blank, there twitch vods don't have finals, and all the links on this thread are broken for vods..any help?
"Battle Crusier Operational"
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 17:49:15
June 09 2013 16:57 GMT
#7527
On June 09 2013 19:09 juicyjames wrote:
If your VODs have no sound just refresh a few times or remove the timestamp and go through the VODs manually. It's a TwitchTV bug.

WCS SEASON 1 FINALS SPOILER-FREE VODS




Group A
Match 1: EG.aLive.RC vs Woongjin.Soulkey
Match 2: EG.Stephano.RC vs Liquid.TLO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group B
Match 1: Axiom.Ryung vs LG-IM.Mvp
Match 2: Axiom.Alicia vs LG-IM.KangHo
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group C
Match 1: Liquid.HerO vs Mill.fOrGG
Match 2: AZUBU.Symbol vs Woongjin.sOs
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group D
Match 1: EG.Revival.RC vs STX.INnoVation
Match 2: ROCCAT.DIMAGA vs Samsung.RorO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match



Quarter-Finals A
Winner of Group A vs Second of Group D

Quarter-Finals B
Winner of Group B vs Second of Group C

Quarter-Finals C
Winner of Group C vs Second of Group B

Quarter-Finals D
Winner of Group D vs Second of Group A



Semi-Finals A
Winner of Quarter-Finals A vs Winner of Quarter-Finals B

Semi-Finals B
Winner of Quarter-Finals C vs Winner of Quarter-Finals D



Grand Finals
Winner of Semi-Finals A vs Winner of Semi-Finals B
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snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
June 09 2013 16:58 GMT
#7528
That grand final link never loads up for me. Maybe its just my computer
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 09 2013 16:59 GMT
#7529
thx for reposting, but isn't there a VOD of the grand finals where I can have actual casting?
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 09 2013 17:03 GMT
#7530
On June 10 2013 01:59 Rollora wrote:
thx for reposting, but isn't there a VOD of the grand finals where I can have actual casting?

There are no VODs (yet) from last night's main stream. If/when they are uploaded they will be located here: http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/videos?kind=past_broadcasts
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RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
June 09 2013 17:11 GMT
#7531
OGN's production of this tournament has been absolutely diabolical in most respects. Having subscribed, the VOD-viewing experience has been incredibly poor compared to what I've come to expect from WCS up to this point. Mislabelled VODs causing me to look elsewhere for the "real" ones resulting in me coming across spoilers, no availability of main stream final VODs (yet) and an almost unbelievably poor second stream cast from Day 9 and Apollo as others have said.

Add to that the almost always missing overlays during the Round of 16, confusing overlays in the final particularly, and English language casters having to guess when they should be able to access information properly by observing. It simply wasn't good enough, and I hope Blizzard are giving OGN a stern talking to for damaging much of the excitement that had been built up by MLG, Gom and (especially) ESL.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 17:14:32
June 09 2013 17:13 GMT
#7532
OGN's production is just fine
stop whining about the vods its literally been 8 hours since the final ended
IT was also a tv broadcast not just a internet show for the foreigners
dumchu
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 17:16 GMT
#7533
On June 10 2013 01:43 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 01:16 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:51 farnham wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:49 KobraKay wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:37 TheShimmy wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:29 Epamynondas wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

wasnt that said about sc2?

I have no idea about how it was with bw, but from what I've heard it's gotten way better with sc2? As in we don't have to throw a party every time a foreigner takes a game off a korean.


Maybe not in WCS America or WCS EU, but in old GSL's (old? Like three years ago. Wow has SC2 really been out this long???) Naniwa and other foreigners who could advance were the white man's King of Kings in starcraft. In BW there was a similar trend. Foreigners like Grrr (eSports hall of famer) and Idra had success with Koreans but eventually the Korean dominance takes over. More to the point, when Thorzain won a game in Proleague we did indeed throw a party.


That is not in the "old GSL's" or 3 years ago for that matter. In the beggining you had Jinro and Idra going far, that was something like 3 years ago

Then there was Huk...after that Naniwa. And even now, sometimes you get a win from a korean. Its still better than it was in BW.

Also Idra had no success with koreans in bw. He was on Estro and CJ and was good in foreigner terms but Im not sure you can say he had success in bw with koreans.

People forget guillaume patry and bertand gospellier


Compare the game back then to how BW is now? You cannot even compare the two. We had so many eras man and that era was just as BoxeR was emerging. There is no comparison.

On June 09 2013 22:10 Mariosatr wrote:
On June 09 2013 20:59 CR1PPLeR wrote:
I feel that Kings of Liberty (MVP and MC) will make a big comeback in WCS season 2 to claim back their thrones. An MVP vs MC WCS season 2 final would be epic.

If NesTea breaks through in WCS AM too, Mvp NesTea MC top 3 would be epic.


Chances of that happening sound improbable.

Mathematically possible. Let's settle for that. And while we're at it throw in Losira too.


Losira perhaps, but NesTea has been on a prolonged spiral downward for a while man when it comes to meaningful matches. It happened to a lot of the greats in BW as well and once they've fallen. Only a few managed to claw their way back.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 09 2013 17:19 GMT
#7534
Both semi-finals were definitely semi-finals worthy. Enjoyed the whole tournament thoroughly
Refer to my post.
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1715 Posts
June 09 2013 17:19 GMT
#7535
no stream 1 finals VOD? trying not to scroll through pages dont wanna be spoilered, ive tried sc2ratings and sc2links

the link in the OP is the 2nd stream (OGN lounge)
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 17:22:04
June 09 2013 17:20 GMT
#7536
On June 10 2013 02:11 RookUK wrote:
OGN's production of this tournament has been absolutely diabolical in most respects. Having subscribed, the VOD-viewing experience has been incredibly poor compared to what I've come to expect from WCS up to this point. Mislabelled VODs causing me to look elsewhere for the "real" ones resulting in me coming across spoilers, no availability of main stream final VODs (yet) and an almost unbelievably poor second stream cast from Day 9 and Apollo as others have said.

Add to that the almost always missing overlays during the Round of 16, confusing overlays in the final particularly, and English language casters having to guess when they should be able to access information properly by observing. It simply wasn't good enough, and I hope Blizzard are giving OGN a stern talking to for damaging much of the excitement that had been built up by MLG, Gom and (especially) ESL.


Once again Apollo and Day[9] weren't casting the games. If you wanted to watch commentary you should be tuning into OGN1 or the GOM cast. It's funny because everyone who tuned in and paid close attention to this LR enjoyed the couch more than OGN1 and the GOM cast. The mixing of the overlays was annoying, but lots of people caught it early. Unfortunately their production team didn't. As for Damaging the excitement? lol You got to be joking especially when you consider all the snafu's those other production teams had. Stop grasping at straws fella!
HBmaKro
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada93 Posts
June 09 2013 17:42 GMT
#7537
Agree ^. And to @starstruck, when you're trying to listen to english casters and you hear is the koreans YELLING at the top of their lungs for 1 scv kill, its very annoying.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 09 2013 17:49 GMT
#7538
sOs would have won more games had he used MSC better... especially game 4, recall for tempests and save all of them would have won it easily.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 09 2013 17:52 GMT
#7539
The VOD from OGN's main stream is now availble: http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/b/414479201
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 09 2013 18:08 GMT
#7540
http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl rebroadcast just started, Soulkey vs sOs coming up!
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