EPTYou need to start actually scum-hunting because so far there is no evidence of it. What do you think of my case on Paper?
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
You need to start actually scum-hunting because so far there is no evidence of it. What do you think of my case on Paper? | ||
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Vivax
22161 Posts
On July 29 2013 02:35 FirmTofu wrote: Sorry I lynched you in Bluelightz... Hey guys, I'm just about caught up. I find it extremely suspicious that Vivax has not read/answered my questions about him. Vivax, any reason you've been avoiding me? Yes, I'm human, I'm not at home, I can also be lazy, and I focused on my scumreads. Is anyone who didn't post anything about you scum now? | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 29 2013 02:41 Vivax wrote: Yes, I'm human, I'm not at home, I can also be lazy, and I focused on my scumreads. Is anyone who didn't post anything about you scum now? I didn't say you were scum, not sure how you jumped to that conclusion. Here is the quoted post. On July 28 2013 15:56 FirmTofu wrote: This first post is supposed to be a bait according to Vivax(see his second post). This is so off...isn't it? He just said "fuck lurker lynches", but then votes a lurker. What? Either way, this could just be a pressure vote, working as more bait. Moving on... Bolded relevant. He's flip-flopping on his stance on lurkers again. Is Day 1 a crapshoot or not, Vivax? Should we be lynching scum or lurkers, Vivax? Can you please be more clear as to where you stand on this issue? You have no excuse to avoid this now. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 29 2013 02:37 hzflank wrote: Koshi, my playstyle is similar to last game where I was scum and also to the game before where I was town. My playstyle is slowly evolving, as it should. Your playstyle is very different to the last game where you were town. Do you not see how this makes you look more scum than me? You need to start actually scum-hunting because so far there is no evidence of it. What do you think of my case on Paper? I said I dislike it. Paper looks cool. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On July 29 2013 02:35 Vivax wrote: Fucking mosquitos man. Anyway, I won't touch Cora for sure, I think the probable ragequit makes him town. Townies tend to be more egoistical. Stutters, i disagreed cause you reduced my reasons to that single post when they are mroe complex than that. It's true that I found it suspicious that you two went selective on me and paper (which is a fact cause we said the same thing but you only suspected him), but applying that statement to the current situation just isn't right, aside from the fact that I'm currently leaning town on HZ for that part about his Oats post. If he's scum he's a pro actor. So let me recap: You threw shit in from the sidelines, you show really low activity, and you applied your reasoning to PS but not to me. HZ did the same selective thing, but he also tunneled PS in a way I found suspicious cause he tends to interpret what he gets about him in the worst way possible, and replied in your favour when I suspected you, which I found odd at such an early stage. If I get it right, I'm your scumread yes? Then I'm sure you're going to find plenty of reasons for that argument in my filter, I'm eager to hear your case for me being scum. You can claim being busy all you want, I'm also busy every time I roll scum. Looking forward to hear your opinions on other players as well, not just the guy who suspects you. I literally said at the end of my case that I didn't want to lynch you today because I'm not sure but I think you're scum. Also check your filter man, it isn't obvious at all what your reasons for wanting to lynch Hz were outside of what I quoted. Anyway of my lynch ideas today I was torn between CJS and PS. I don't think such a rage quit is a town trait when it happens because his smurf got revealed. He clearly was enjoying the in character play so he's probably just frustrated that he can't keep that up now. He'd be like that as either alignment. However knowing who it is makes me want to give him more leeway because I feel somewhat confident in reading Cora. So I'd rather lynch PS. I'll post my reasoning in full when I get s break at work | ||
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Vivax
22161 Posts
Hey guys, I'm just about caught up. I find it extremely suspicious that Vivax has not read/answered my questions about him. Vivax, any reason you've been avoiding me? So you think what I do is extremely suspicious but I didn't say you were scum, not sure how you jumped to that conclusion I'll answer your questions, but explain me this one in the meantime. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
That is not what I asked. What do you think of the reasons as to why I think Paper is scum? | ||
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 29 2013 02:49 hzflank wrote: That is not what I asked. What do you think of the reasons as to why I think Paper is scum? I think there is a chance that you are tunneling paper to prove you are scumhunting and to hide your reads on other people. Because it is hard to fake reads on multiple people as scum. Hence my vote and shizzle. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 29 2013 02:51 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: And stop giving me town cred for rage quitting. Give me town cred for this shit that I've done, not the ragequit. I did bro, now go stick your head in an icebath and come back back to fight for town justice. | ||
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Vivax
22161 Posts
This is so off...isn't it? He just said "fuck lurker lynches", but then votes a lurker. What? Either way, this could just be a pressure vote, working as more bait. This is getting into semantics on what constitutes a lurker, but I voted stutters cause he posted a loaded question that was in no way useful for finding scum, and then fucked off. Now he claimed being busy, but I voted him cause I found that part scummy, not cause of some category I put him into. Bolded relevant. He's flip-flopping on his stance on lurkers again. Is Day 1 a crapshoot or not, Vivax? Should we be lynching scum or lurkers, Vivax? Can you please be more clear as to where you stand on this issue? I think we should lynch lurkers, not scum. Hope this illustrates the value of your question. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I lost my keys yesterday and couldn't get home so i had to get drunk instead. :D Expect a lot of reads after i have actually read the thread. Wasn't this like, nearly 5 hours ago? | ||
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Vivax
22161 Posts
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Vivax
22161 Posts
But I think I'll read his whole filter first. | ||
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exarezee
United States423 Posts
Just in case papers flips scum and I die tonight, I want to just put out a couple more of my thoughts. If paper flips scum, i think tofu is a very low chance to be scum. Clarity and hzflank have been posting with fluidity and logic. Giving them town leans, Their posts resemble a thinking towns person. Not posting information you have is untolerable (@Vayne). You could be killed at night or anytime in the day by a possible vig. Yeah, you can hold out info for a little while for a purpose...but it's getting closer and closer to end of day. If you have something worthwhile to add, say it. And if you don't have anything worthwhile, don't say you have reads and are not giving them out. Also, let's try to not put too much credence into clearing people based on how they react to something or some emotion they show that is "difficult" to fake. Let's find inconsistencies in their arguments that derive not from mistakes but from an agenda. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Also OMG FOUND A SCUMSLIP classic town, hard to fake. At the very least don't lynch him today. I'm gonna be gone for a couple of hours but will be back with plenty of time to spare. I suggest people look into Oats, Stutters and Malongo. Right now I think I'm willing to lynch Malongo (waiting on him to show up first) or Stutters. | ||
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exarezee
United States423 Posts
On July 29 2013 02:51 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: And stop giving me town cred for rage quitting. Give me town cred for this shit that I've done, not the ragequit. QFT. Couldn't fucking agree more. | ||
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exarezee
United States423 Posts
On July 29 2013 03:01 Clarity_nl wrote: Although I disagree with most of what he's said since he came back, he seems to be trying to figure the game out. Also OMG FOUND A SCUMSLIP classic town, hard to fake. At the very least don't lynch him today. I'm gonna be gone for a couple of hours but will be back with plenty of time to spare. I suggest people look into Oats, Stutters and Malongo. Right now I think I'm willing to lynch Malongo (waiting on him to show up first) or Stutters. I don't really see what it's THAT HARD to fake. Sure, I can give a little town lean on it, but you seem to be all but clearing him for it including unvoting him. He's looking for information to point to the fact that I'm scum. He has already labeled me scum and is looking for points to prove it. He will be doing this as both roles, because he had previously said I will make a case for exarzee going through all his posts. If for example he were like, exarzee is villager......going to go through his posts and then .... bam found a scumslip..i'd give it more credibility. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 29 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote: This is getting into semantics on what constitutes a lurker, but I voted stutters cause he posted a loaded question that was in no way useful for finding scum, and then fucked off. Now he claimed being busy, but I voted him cause I found that part scummy, not cause of some category I put him into. I think we should lynch lurkers, not scum. Hope this illustrates the value of your question. Okay, I'm just trying to break this down to try and understand your thought process. Your first post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=4#79 Stance: Lynch lurkers Second post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=9#171 Stance: Lynch scum Third Post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=9#174 Stance: Lynch scum? Stutters is "scum" not a "lurker" to you: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=177&topic_id=422720 Stance: Lynch scum "Vayne would be a good lynch, maybe even better than Stutters": http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=23#444 Stance: Lynch lurker/fluff poster? "Now I want to lynch rayn too":http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=32#636 Stance: Lynch lurker "PS might not actually be town?":http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=33#645 Stance: Lynch scum And finally, your recent post responding to me is of 2 minds. You say you voted stutters because you found him scummy. Then you say you want to lynch lurkers today, not scum. I'm sorry, I don't think I'm following at ALL. | ||
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Vivax
22161 Posts
In the context of Tofu pushing XRZ it might actually have some value in giving him a townread, it simply fits with the timing where he votes and pushes him, so I think it could actually be a good town indicator. If it were some random zomg scumslip with no context I'd treat it as null, but in this case it's a fine towntell. | ||
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