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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
July 28 2013 18:12 GMT
#681
Tofu, I have a question. Who do you think fits the profile of a lurker right now?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 18:12 GMT
#682
On July 29 2013 03:11 Vivax wrote:
I use to fake mistakes about setup (KP and similar) to get cred.
In the context of Tofu pushing XRZ it might actually have some value in giving him a townread, it simply fits with the timing where he votes and pushes him, so I think it could actually be a good town indicator.

If it were some random zomg scumslip with no context I'd treat it as null, but in this case it's a fine towntell.


He already has me labeled SCUM. He's looking for evidence to prove this either way (it's role independent for him). I don't understand why you can give him more town cred.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 18:17 GMT
#683
Let's assume you are scum and have labeled someone else scum and do a filter of their posts. You find a post by theirs that you think is really bad and will lend support to your cause. Would you not be excited?
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 18:18 GMT
#684
##Vote: justanothertownie

JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.

Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.

Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.

hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.

I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
July 28 2013 18:18 GMT
#685
Dunno, I got the feeling he's suspecting me as well, not that he's tunneling you and only you withou considering new evidence.

@Tofu

I don't get what's hard to follow. I say what I find scummy about whom, and I want to lynch people who exclusively post bullshit and sows with ducklings, and people who don't post jack, especially D1 should be used to do the latter.

I don't have an internal switch lurker lynch/scum lynch, I have a "get rid of liabilities and lynch scummy people" mindset, that's all. If I switch target frequently it's cause I adapt.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 18:18 GMT
#686
On July 29 2013 03:12 Vivax wrote:
Tofu, I have a question. Who do you think fits the profile of a lurker right now?

As of this moment,
rayn
Malongo
Koshi
vayne

JAT/stutters/Paperscraps are borderline.

If I wanted to lynch a lurker today, it'd be Koshi or rayn, possibly Malongo or vayne. Koshi has just been posting lists of other lurkers(note the irony) which is completely useless. rayn hasn't even posted jack shit.

Can you respond to my post now?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 18:20 GMT
#687
On July 29 2013 03:17 exarezee wrote:
Let's assume you are town and have labeled someone else scum and do a filter of their posts. You find a post by theirs that you think is really bad and will lend support to your cause. Would you not be excited?

Fixed. Your logic works both ways.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 18:20 GMT
#688
On July 29 2013 03:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
Although I disagree with most of what he's said since he came back, he seems to be trying to figure the game out.
Also OMG FOUND A SCUMSLIP classic town, hard to fake. At the very least don't lynch him today.

I'm gonna be gone for a couple of hours but will be back with plenty of time to spare.

I suggest people look into Oats, Stutters and Malongo.
Right now I think I'm willing to lynch Malongo (waiting on him to show up first) or Stutters.

What makes you want to lynch me? Do you disagree with my analysis of vivax? I go through this every game due to my activity coming in spurts depending on my RL schedule.

exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 18:21 GMT
#689
On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote:
##Vote: justanothertownie

JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.

Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.

Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.

hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.

I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post.


You seem to keep on insisting that people need an out if you flip town. WTF do we need outs. We are playing a game of partial information. If I had no posts from anyone, I give u a 4/13 chance to be scum. Given your posts..I've inreased your chance of scum to somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3. In no way am I 100% certain you are scum. I and others are also not concerned with our survivability in Day 2 as you keep saying we want to have an out. I'm trying to promote a town win.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 18:21 GMT
#690
On July 29 2013 03:20 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:17 exarezee wrote:
Let's assume you are town and have labeled someone else scum and do a filter of their posts. You find a post by theirs that you think is really bad and will lend support to your cause. Would you not be excited?

Fixed. Your logic works both ways.


of course it works both ways. You just agreed with my point. We should not give you MORE town cred for what you did.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 18:22 GMT
#691
@exarezee
I want to know why you think Paperscraps and I being on the same scum team is so unlikely. You still haven't justified that logic. Why is it that you would drop your case on me if Paper flips scum?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 18:23 GMT
#692
On July 29 2013 03:21 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:20 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:17 exarezee wrote:
Let's assume you are town and have labeled someone else scum and do a filter of their posts. You find a post by theirs that you think is really bad and will lend support to your cause. Would you not be excited?

Fixed. Your logic works both ways.


of course it works both ways. You just agreed with my point. We should not give you MORE town cred for what you did.

I do agree with it, lol. I don't think that behavior warranted town cred at all. However, I'll take what I can get. I'm town, after all.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 18:24 GMT
#693
On July 29 2013 03:22 FirmTofu wrote:
@exarezee
I want to know why you think Paperscraps and I being on the same scum team is so unlikely. You still haven't justified that logic. Why is it that you would drop your case on me if Paper flips scum?


why don't you filter through my posts? i've explained that at least 2-3 times.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 28 2013 18:24 GMT
#694
On July 29 2013 02:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 02:49 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 02:46 Koshi wrote:
On July 29 2013 02:37 hzflank wrote:
Koshi, my playstyle is similar to last game where I was scum and also to the game before where I was town. My playstyle is slowly evolving, as it should. Your playstyle is very different to the last game where you were town. Do you not see how this makes you look more scum than me?

You need to start actually scum-hunting because so far there is no evidence of it. What do you think of my case on Paper?

I said I dislike it. Paper looks cool.


That is not what I asked. What do you think of the reasons as to why I think Paper is scum?

I think there is a chance that you are tunneling paper to prove you are scumhunting and to hide your reads on other people. Because it is hard to fake reads on multiple people as scum.

Hence my vote and shizzle.


And what makes it more likely that I am doing that than actually just pushing my scum read?

Is this your first game as scum, Koshi? Personally, I did not find it hard to fake reads on multiple people as scum, but judging by what you have posted so far in this game it seems that you do.

Still, that is the best reason for me being scum that you have posted so far. Why did it take you so long to post that reason? It's not exactly an original reason either as it is basically what Vivax said earlier.

If you are town then I still do not understand your game plan. Are you so confident that you knew that I would question you so that you could push your read on me that way? I did not see you asking a lot of questions to me. If you are town then you should be pushing me at this point. You truly are apathetic towards the lynch, though.

Give me one good reason as to why you are not scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22242 Posts
July 28 2013 18:25 GMT
#695
On July 29 2013 03:17 exarezee wrote:
Let's assume you are scum and have labeled someone else scum and do a filter of their posts. You find a post by theirs that you think is really bad and will lend support to your cause. Would you not be excited?


There's the other side of the medal, you already know the other guy is town and will elaborate that post according to that mindset, not believe he's scumslipping.

But yeah, I see where you're coming from. I use these little things in getting townreads, but ultimately one has to judge the overall picture.

You want to lynch FT quite badly I take?
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 18:25 GMT
#696
On July 29 2013 03:24 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:22 FirmTofu wrote:
@exarezee
I want to know why you think Paperscraps and I being on the same scum team is so unlikely. You still haven't justified that logic. Why is it that you would drop your case on me if Paper flips scum?


why don't you filter through my posts? i've explained that at least 2-3 times.

I've read it. I don't understand it. Could you please explain it now? I'm sitting here, willing to listen.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 18:28 GMT
#697
You two have drawn too much attention to yourselves early in Day 1. It is pretty bold when there is no N0. It requires very careful coordination to both soft attack/accuse the same person who if he turns up town will put some pressure back on you eventually.

It's just not likely for scum to do this kind of thing. Let's suppose a scum starts the initial vote on someone. It's very rare that another scum will immediately jump onto that ship.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 18:28 GMT
#698
On July 29 2013 03:18 Vivax wrote:
Dunno, I got the feeling he's suspecting me as well, not that he's tunneling you and only you withou considering new evidence.

@Tofu

I don't get what's hard to follow. I say what I find scummy about whom, and I want to lynch people who exclusively post bullshit and sows with ducklings, and people who don't post jack, especially D1 should be used to do the latter.

I don't have an internal switch lurker lynch/scum lynch, I have a "get rid of liabilities and lynch scummy people" mindset, that's all. If I switch target frequently it's cause I adapt.

I'm going to leave you alone until the flip because I don't think you would be a good lynch today. I'll be watching you, though. Your behavior feels slimy to me.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 18:30 GMT
#699
On July 29 2013 03:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:17 exarezee wrote:
Let's assume you are scum and have labeled someone else scum and do a filter of their posts. You find a post by theirs that you think is really bad and will lend support to your cause. Would you not be excited?


There's the other side of the medal, you already know the other guy is town and will elaborate that post according to that mindset, not believe he's scumslipping.

But yeah, I see where you're coming from. I use these little things in getting townreads, but ultimately one has to judge the overall picture.

You want to lynch FT quite badly I take?


I think he is above average chance to be scum. I also think tofu's role is a lot clearer once he flips. If by quite badly you mean he's my #1 lynch target, then yea. If I had to throw out a number I'd say he's 60% chance of scum imo.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 18:33 GMT
#700
On July 29 2013 03:28 exarezee wrote:
You two have drawn too much attention to yourselves early in Day 1. It is pretty bold when there is no N0. It requires very careful coordination to both soft attack/accuse the same person who if he turns up town will put some pressure back on you eventually.

It's just not likely for scum to do this kind of thing. Let's suppose a scum starts the initial vote on someone. It's very rare that another scum will immediately jump onto that ship.

Fair enough. I still think you're scum. This reminds me of my newbie game with hzflank where I tunneled scum and no one believed me. We ended up lynching all the other scum first because everyone thought my scumread was too abrasive to be scum. History repeats itself.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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