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Evulrabbitz
Sweden134 Posts
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Mackin
Ireland181 Posts
On July 08 2012 21:26 BassInSpace wrote: That doesn't count. Yes, it's an analysis. But let's have a closer look at the bolded sections. You have the benefit of hindsight now in saying that you were right about Hopeless. At the time of making that post, you weren't sure about anything. You didn't even commit to anything. If Hopeless had flipped green, you could just argue and say "oh, look I was right, he really WAS just testing the waters". Fair enough I'll accept that as a fair point - I wasn't exactly decisive because it was so early on. I'm just saying I don't think I would be calling out hopeless so early on in D1, in that post I am quite indecisive because I honestly didn't know what to think about some people. Back then I did say that the case against Release wasn't strong and that I didn't know what to think about TMG, with most criticism on hopeless, not scummy behaviour in my opinion. If I was mafia, I'd say I'm playing terribly. I had been playing quite lazily at points which I'll admit, which I don't think a mafia player in this position would be so stupid to do. I'm gonna give my list of reads here, and I'll provide reasoning below this post where I feel it hasn't already been discussed elsewhere: 1 Evulrabbitz ---- Obviously pro-town 4 The_Zen_Man --- Not got a good feeling lately, but I'll post justification afterwards 5 Lazermonkey --- I've had him as pro town for a long time. Before D1 votes happened, I had him down as pro-town and because I missed the arguments people were having in between I still feel that post lynching he's town. 6 Release ---- Release I also had put down as pro-town but recently I'm not so sure. If he was to be lynched 7 YourHarry ---- Also have him down as pro-town. But does seem very lazy to suggest random lynchings. Still got lots of time to decide what todo regarding him. 9 Mackin === I am vanilla townie, and I don't see anything particularly scummy about my play so far. 10 Hapahauli ---- Have him down as pro pro townie, but as I said before, we should be careful after the next couple of lynchings if he is alive and there is still the mafia player. He provided valuable information in catching hopeless, but there's always that chance that it was a really smart mafia plan. 11 JingleHell ----- Definately pro-town in my opinion, no one counter-claimed Evul's DT which is good news. 12 BassInSpace ----- Valid points against me, but could be playing smart mafia trying to lynch the player with some weaknesses in play (aka me). If I get lynched please be careful of him as I'm undecided of why he's pushing me so hard. I really have nothing to hide so if I'm continually pushed I will be suspicious. 13 JieXian ----- Also pro townie. Claimed tracker with no opposition which is nice. This leaves 3 people in real contention for scum in my opinion. Zen, Bass, and the mastermind that could be: Hapa (but he most definately is my least suspected. I am a vanilla and that's it. Honestly can see why I'm not water tight but as long as Evul/Lazer/Jingle/Jie stay alive I think we win. Thats obviously subject to change depending on how people talk later on. If you do lynch me tonight, Bass is my top suspect. If not, and we don't get the mafia player, I know I'm not getting murdered because some people are pretent intent on pointing the FoS at me. | ||
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Mackin
Ireland181 Posts
On July 08 2012 22:12 Evulrabbitz wrote: About Zen_Man asking if 3styla will replace Khorrus. That is totally innocent. In one of Khorrus first posts he says he needs replacement and completely random at like page 13 or so 3styla posts "/in". Zen_Man then asks if that was the replacement. I'm gonna agree with Evul on this point and sort of move away from suspicion of Zen. If Zen was scum and was worried there was no godfather then wouldn't he contact mods through PMs so as to not ruin the game? I don't think that's a good point from which to accuse him on, so for now, my suspicions are on Bass. | ||
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Mackin
Ireland181 Posts
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Evulrabbitz
Sweden134 Posts
I am actually quite suspicious about you, Zen_Man. You have based all your arguments against Lazermonkey on the assumption you know how Mafia plays. You claim repeatedly that mafia tends to do that and this and therefore Lazer is very suspicious. You do this rather than analyzing Lazer's post in a sense where you point out the flaws in Lazer's argumentation and where these flaws might bring the town later on in the game. Written by me. | ||
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Mackin
Ireland181 Posts
On July 08 2012 22:36 Mackin wrote: I'm gonna agree with Evul on this point and sort of move away from suspicion of Zen. If Zen was scum and was worried there was no godfather then wouldn't he contact mods through PMs so as to not ruin the game? I don't think that's a good point from which to accuse him on, so for now, my suspicions are on Bass. Just another point to add here: I know I had put Zen in my suspicions in my read of everyone just above and then I switched quickly, but I hadn't really thought of the above point until Evul brought the post up again. | ||
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BassInSpace
Australia165 Posts
Valid points against me, but could be playing smart mafia trying to lynch the player with some weaknesses in play (aka me). If I get lynched please be careful of him as I'm undecided of why he's pushing me so hard. I really have nothing to hide so if I'm continually pushed I will be suspicious. I'm sorry if you feel that I'm pushing you hard, but as you just said yourself, there are valid points against you. You never properly addressed the original case against you, and you're not the only player who copped flack for that; Zen man is too. I wanted you to make your position clear so that we don't have a wildcard in a player like you if the game ever goes late and we can't actually afford a mislynch. We got completely screwed over by a wildcard in my last game because we ignored him for too long. You're not playing nearly as bad as he was, but as you can see over the last few posts, there are people who are still suspicous of you. It's good that you have kicked up the activity and did actually name players who you consider scummy this time. You needn't worry about a case against you at this time, however. I think a Zen man lynch is more likely at this point. | ||
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BassInSpace
Australia165 Posts
"You needn't worry about a case against you at this time" "You needn't worry about a lynch against you at this time" | ||
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Mackin
Ireland181 Posts
If there is anything else anyone would like me to clearly point out to clear anything up - ask away  | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On July 08 2012 22:12 Evulrabbitz wrote: About Zen_Man asking if 3styla will replace Khorrus. That is totally innocent. In one of Khorrus first posts he says he needs replacement and completely random at like page 13 or so 3styla posts "/in". Zen_Man then asks if that was the replacement. I'm gonna agree with Evul on this point and sort of move away from suspicion of Zen. If Zen was scum and was worried there was no godfather then wouldn't he contact mods through PMs so as to not ruin the game? I don't think that's a good point from which to accuse him on, so for now, my suspicions are on Bass.[/QUOTE] Ya that's why it's called a slip... No one else was really concerned with replacements and naturally since he was about to be modkilled most of us assumed that he's townie | ||
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BassInSpace
Australia165 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On July 08 2012 20:43 BassInSpace wrote: Even if the godfather is dead, his case doesn't become invalid just because he thought Hapa was the godfather. I just disagree with his case for reasons stated above. No I'm saying I couldn't decide whether he was posting stupidly or scummily. Given the fact that he still brought up that terrible breadcrumb and argument despite the fact that he should have known very well, as mafia, that Khorrus was godfather, I've a feeling that he's just being super careless. I mean it's just too idiotic for a mafia to make that mistake. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On July 08 2012 21:19 BassInSpace wrote: There was no need to tell him to shut up though... By shut up I meant "stop worrying dooooood" :D | ||
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BassInSpace
Australia165 Posts
##Vote The_Zen_Man Subject to change should he actually post something decent by the time I'm around again of course. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
Did anyone get role blocked last night? If so, please claim. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
Otherwise it sounds like you're asking medic to claim >_> | ||
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Evulrabbitz
Sweden134 Posts
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