• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:16
CEST 09:16
KST 16:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-62PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE14Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly5
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 1/8 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b
Tourneys
SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10039 users

Germany about to ban paintball - Page 3

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 07 2009 14:49 GMT
#41
THE GERMANS R TROLLING THE WORLD
ggyo...
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 14:52:22
May 07 2009 14:51 GMT
#42
On May 07 2009 23:37 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2009 23:30 sixghost wrote:
On May 07 2009 23:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On May 07 2009 22:42 zatic wrote:
On May 07 2009 22:09 xJacky wrote:
the word is scapegoat?

No, scapegoat has a different meaning, that's why I was asking. I just hadn't heard the sacrificial pawn expression in English before, whereas it is a very common term in German.


What you're talking about is in fact "scapegoating."

Scapegoating is the act of holding a person, group of people, or thing responsible for a multitude of problems.

Stop correcting him when what he said in the first place wasn't wrong


So they are looking for a pawn to sacrifice (does this expression exist in English btw?).

Yes.

It's generally called Scapegoating.

Well actually, the term in English is "sacrificial lamb" and it is not the same as "scapegoating".

A scapegoat has blame and guilt heaped upon him, and is outcast in order to benefit the community, taking blame and guilt away.
A sacrificial lamb is made as concession to appease a third party, eg, thrown to the wolves.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
May 07 2009 14:59 GMT
#43
Germany, where blood is green!

Seriously, I loathe politics and politicians in general. How can they, with their sanity and conscience intact, blame the market for short sightedness when they propose something like this? Even if such a law is never passed, this is still a disgrace to... well, to everything good.
Hello=)
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
May 07 2009 15:08 GMT
#44
On May 07 2009 23:48 Wohmfg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2009 23:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On May 07 2009 22:42 zatic wrote:
On May 07 2009 22:09 xJacky wrote:
the word is scapegoat?

No, scapegoat has a different meaning, that's why I was asking. I just hadn't heard the sacrificial pawn expression in English before, whereas it is a very common term in German.


What you're talking about is in fact "scapegoating."

Scapegoating is the act of holding a person, group of people, or thing responsible for a multitude of problems.


I don't think so. Especially since zatic himself said that he didn't mean scapegoating. What he might have meant is that the government were willing to sacrifice the vote of paintballers in order to gain more votes from the rest of the voters. The paintballers being the pawn, the rest of the voters being the higher value piece in chess... something like that :D

100% correct.

Anyway I didn't want to spawn an off-topic discussion about semantics. The point is this is just a tactical move in election times where the votes of the gun lobby count. It's just words. Paint ball will not be banned, nobody wants that. And if you follow the discussion you can see that this time the media does not fall for it. This will likely backfire.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
May 07 2009 15:38 GMT
#45
Well I've never felt influenced by any action they took (if they did) after one of the schoolshootings. So I guess this time there won't be changed anything as usual. Don't get people getting crazy (especially on the internet) over politicians using such things as short boost for the next elections. Happens with any other thing like daily.
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 15:41:32
May 07 2009 15:38 GMT
#46
I would not have it any other way. If there weren't unnecessary regulations and bureaucratic inflexibility around every corner, it wouldn't be the Germany I know and love.

If you let German kids play too wildly, they may grow up to be childish Anglo-American goofballs cracking politically incorrect jokes.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 07 2009 15:44 GMT
#47
Paintball is the most fun thing EVER to do with friends
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 07 2009 15:48 GMT
#48
Dude, Politically incorrect jokes are awesome!
Check dez out brah

+ Show Spoiler [political incorrectness in joke form] +

What's funnier than a dead baby?
A dead baby sitting next to a kid with down syndrome.

What do you call 100 black people in a barn?
Antique farming equiptment

Whats the difference between a black guy and a pizza?
A pizza can feed a four person family.

How many babies does it take to paint a house?
Depends how hard you throw them.

What's the first thing a woman does when she gets back from the battered women's clinic?
The god damned dishes if she knows what's good for her.

Why did the woman cross the road?
Wait, better question, why is she out of the kitchen!?

Why don't women wear watches?
There's a clock on the stove.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8153 Posts
May 07 2009 15:56 GMT
#49
I completely agree.

I would ban Counter Strike and this kind of retarded games also.

Start flamming.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 20:30:42
May 07 2009 20:30 GMT
#50
On May 07 2009 18:36 pangshai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2009 18:22 GTR wrote:
this is like how they censored cs so that when you fragged someone they kneeled and put their hands on their head

lol i just youtubed it. I thought they were just going to kneel and put their hands on their head there, but they actually lay down first.



hahahah

guns dont kill people : )
Hates Fun🤔
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 07 2009 20:55 GMT
#51
On May 08 2009 00:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I completely agree.

I would ban Counter Strike and this kind of retarded games also.

Start flamming.


Not worth the effort, I was tempted though.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
wAVEland
Profile Joined May 2007
Germany169 Posts
May 07 2009 20:57 GMT
#52
On May 07 2009 23:49 R3condite wrote:
THE GERMANS R TROLLING THE WORLD

that's hardly a funny comment.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
May 12 2009 09:02 GMT
#53
Hey, my MdB got back to me. Here's his response:
+ Show Spoiler +

Vielen Dank für Ihre Email zu den geplanten Änderungen des Waffenrechts und zum Paintball-Verbot.

Die geplanten Änderungen was die Aufbewahrung von Waffen, die unangekündigten Kontrollen und die Regelungen zum Umgang mit großkalibrigen Waffen angeht halte ich für sinnvoll und unterstützenswert. Bei den großkalibrigen Waffen setze ich mich sogar für Verbote des Besitzes für "Sportzwecke" ein. Das Paintball-Verbot ist in der Tat ein überflüssiger symbolischer Akt, den ich heute in der Fraktion massiv kritisiert habe.

Sollte ich mich mit dieser Ablehnung öffentlich nicht durchsetzen, werde ich dennoch dem Gesetzentwurf zustimmen, weil die anderen Punkte in ihrer Bedeutung überwiegen.

Recht gebe ich unumschränkt, wenn es um den Waffenexport aus Deutschland geht. Die Nachricht, dass wir inzwischen drittgrößter Waffenexporteur weltweit sind, hat mich auch beschämt und verärgert, dazu werden wir in der Fraktion auch sicher noch das Gespräch suchen. Helmut Schmidt hat das bei seinem Besuch in der letzten Sitzungswoche zu Recht als "Skandal" bezeichnet.

Mit freundlichem Gruß
Ulrich Kelber


Basically he says that he too thinks that the ban of paintball is a superfluous symbolic act. Then he says that he's going to vote for the act nonetheless because the other points in it are more important.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
May 14 2009 10:54 GMT
#54
Surprise surprise, today the administration announced they will not go ahead with the ban of paint ball before the election.

A couple of representatives were quoted that they got hundreds of letters and emails protesting against the ban. Good job citizens.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
May 14 2009 11:22 GMT
#55
u guy s need to google command and conquer german version.

this isnt shocking at all
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
May 14 2009 11:41 GMT
#56
On May 14 2009 19:54 zatic wrote:
Surprise surprise, today the administration announced they will not go ahead with the ban of paint ball before the election.

A couple of representatives were quoted that they got hundreds of letters and emails protesting against the ban. Good job citizens.


source: http://www.heute.de/ZDFheute/inhalt/23/0,3672,7587831,00.html
This is my truth, tell me yours!
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
May 14 2009 16:09 GMT
#57
great, I hope they add to the law, "must play starcraft"
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
04:00
Qualifiers Day 1
Afreeca ASL 2905
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 165
FoxeR 67
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 5311
Zeus 757
Leta 518
Dewaltoss 82
Terrorterran 25
ZergMaN 21
ToSsGirL 6
NotJumperer 2
League of Legends
JimRising 581
Counter-Strike
summit1g7106
Other Games
WinterStarcraft638
ceh9386
C9.Mang0330
Happy271
RuFF_SC268
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1023
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 157
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2265
League of Legends
• Stunt420
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
1h 45m
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3h 45m
Afreeca Starleague
20h 45m
RSL Revival
1d 1h
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 4h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W5
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSLAN 4
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.