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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 07 2009 14:49 GMT
#41
THE GERMANS R TROLLING THE WORLD
ggyo...
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 14:52:22
May 07 2009 14:51 GMT
#42
On May 07 2009 23:37 Amber[LighT] wrote:
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On May 07 2009 23:30 sixghost wrote:
On May 07 2009 23:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On May 07 2009 22:42 zatic wrote:
On May 07 2009 22:09 xJacky wrote:
the word is scapegoat?

No, scapegoat has a different meaning, that's why I was asking. I just hadn't heard the sacrificial pawn expression in English before, whereas it is a very common term in German.


What you're talking about is in fact "scapegoating."

Scapegoating is the act of holding a person, group of people, or thing responsible for a multitude of problems.

Stop correcting him when what he said in the first place wasn't wrong


So they are looking for a pawn to sacrifice (does this expression exist in English btw?).

Yes.

It's generally called Scapegoating.

Well actually, the term in English is "sacrificial lamb" and it is not the same as "scapegoating".

A scapegoat has blame and guilt heaped upon him, and is outcast in order to benefit the community, taking blame and guilt away.
A sacrificial lamb is made as concession to appease a third party, eg, thrown to the wolves.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
May 07 2009 14:59 GMT
#43
Germany, where blood is green!

Seriously, I loathe politics and politicians in general. How can they, with their sanity and conscience intact, blame the market for short sightedness when they propose something like this? Even if such a law is never passed, this is still a disgrace to... well, to everything good.
Hello=)
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
May 07 2009 15:08 GMT
#44
On May 07 2009 23:48 Wohmfg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2009 23:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On May 07 2009 22:42 zatic wrote:
On May 07 2009 22:09 xJacky wrote:
the word is scapegoat?

No, scapegoat has a different meaning, that's why I was asking. I just hadn't heard the sacrificial pawn expression in English before, whereas it is a very common term in German.


What you're talking about is in fact "scapegoating."

Scapegoating is the act of holding a person, group of people, or thing responsible for a multitude of problems.


I don't think so. Especially since zatic himself said that he didn't mean scapegoating. What he might have meant is that the government were willing to sacrifice the vote of paintballers in order to gain more votes from the rest of the voters. The paintballers being the pawn, the rest of the voters being the higher value piece in chess... something like that :D

100% correct.

Anyway I didn't want to spawn an off-topic discussion about semantics. The point is this is just a tactical move in election times where the votes of the gun lobby count. It's just words. Paint ball will not be banned, nobody wants that. And if you follow the discussion you can see that this time the media does not fall for it. This will likely backfire.
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[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
May 07 2009 15:38 GMT
#45
Well I've never felt influenced by any action they took (if they did) after one of the schoolshootings. So I guess this time there won't be changed anything as usual. Don't get people getting crazy (especially on the internet) over politicians using such things as short boost for the next elections. Happens with any other thing like daily.
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 15:41:32
May 07 2009 15:38 GMT
#46
I would not have it any other way. If there weren't unnecessary regulations and bureaucratic inflexibility around every corner, it wouldn't be the Germany I know and love.

If you let German kids play too wildly, they may grow up to be childish Anglo-American goofballs cracking politically incorrect jokes.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 07 2009 15:44 GMT
#47
Paintball is the most fun thing EVER to do with friends
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 07 2009 15:48 GMT
#48
Dude, Politically incorrect jokes are awesome!
Check dez out brah

+ Show Spoiler [political incorrectness in joke form] +

What's funnier than a dead baby?
A dead baby sitting next to a kid with down syndrome.

What do you call 100 black people in a barn?
Antique farming equiptment

Whats the difference between a black guy and a pizza?
A pizza can feed a four person family.

How many babies does it take to paint a house?
Depends how hard you throw them.

What's the first thing a woman does when she gets back from the battered women's clinic?
The god damned dishes if she knows what's good for her.

Why did the woman cross the road?
Wait, better question, why is she out of the kitchen!?

Why don't women wear watches?
There's a clock on the stove.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7917 Posts
May 07 2009 15:56 GMT
#49
I completely agree.

I would ban Counter Strike and this kind of retarded games also.

Start flamming.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 20:30:42
May 07 2009 20:30 GMT
#50
On May 07 2009 18:36 pangshai wrote:
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On May 07 2009 18:22 GTR wrote:
this is like how they censored cs so that when you fragged someone they kneeled and put their hands on their head

lol i just youtubed it. I thought they were just going to kneel and put their hands on their head there, but they actually lay down first.



hahahah

guns dont kill people : )
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 07 2009 20:55 GMT
#51
On May 08 2009 00:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I completely agree.

I would ban Counter Strike and this kind of retarded games also.

Start flamming.


Not worth the effort, I was tempted though.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
wAVEland
Profile Joined May 2007
Germany169 Posts
May 07 2009 20:57 GMT
#52
On May 07 2009 23:49 R3condite wrote:
THE GERMANS R TROLLING THE WORLD

that's hardly a funny comment.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
May 12 2009 09:02 GMT
#53
Hey, my MdB got back to me. Here's his response:
+ Show Spoiler +

Vielen Dank für Ihre Email zu den geplanten Änderungen des Waffenrechts und zum Paintball-Verbot.

Die geplanten Änderungen was die Aufbewahrung von Waffen, die unangekündigten Kontrollen und die Regelungen zum Umgang mit großkalibrigen Waffen angeht halte ich für sinnvoll und unterstützenswert. Bei den großkalibrigen Waffen setze ich mich sogar für Verbote des Besitzes für "Sportzwecke" ein. Das Paintball-Verbot ist in der Tat ein überflüssiger symbolischer Akt, den ich heute in der Fraktion massiv kritisiert habe.

Sollte ich mich mit dieser Ablehnung öffentlich nicht durchsetzen, werde ich dennoch dem Gesetzentwurf zustimmen, weil die anderen Punkte in ihrer Bedeutung überwiegen.

Recht gebe ich unumschränkt, wenn es um den Waffenexport aus Deutschland geht. Die Nachricht, dass wir inzwischen drittgrößter Waffenexporteur weltweit sind, hat mich auch beschämt und verärgert, dazu werden wir in der Fraktion auch sicher noch das Gespräch suchen. Helmut Schmidt hat das bei seinem Besuch in der letzten Sitzungswoche zu Recht als "Skandal" bezeichnet.

Mit freundlichem Gruß
Ulrich Kelber


Basically he says that he too thinks that the ban of paintball is a superfluous symbolic act. Then he says that he's going to vote for the act nonetheless because the other points in it are more important.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
May 14 2009 10:54 GMT
#54
Surprise surprise, today the administration announced they will not go ahead with the ban of paint ball before the election.

A couple of representatives were quoted that they got hundreds of letters and emails protesting against the ban. Good job citizens.
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Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
May 14 2009 11:22 GMT
#55
u guy s need to google command and conquer german version.

this isnt shocking at all
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
May 14 2009 11:41 GMT
#56
On May 14 2009 19:54 zatic wrote:
Surprise surprise, today the administration announced they will not go ahead with the ban of paint ball before the election.

A couple of representatives were quoted that they got hundreds of letters and emails protesting against the ban. Good job citizens.


source: http://www.heute.de/ZDFheute/inhalt/23/0,3672,7587831,00.html
This is my truth, tell me yours!
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
May 14 2009 16:09 GMT
#57
great, I hope they add to the law, "must play starcraft"
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