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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
BUT It also says I'm a veteran type which I assume means I have night life, so what seems more likely: my power activates after I actually die (2nd hit) or that it was just not perfectly worded? I kinda think it's more likely that my power activates when I'm hit the first time... Additionally, and I really think this is important, IF Ace was trying to kidnap me, why the hell would that show up in the day post? even more so considering it failed!? I'm certain there are plenty of roles and night actions going on, none of them showed up...except for kills. Now Ace is trying to use his psychological intimidation to shut me up or bully me around as well.. On February 14 2011 08:39 Ace wrote: kita says he has some kind of role that relates to aidnai. Since I could remove aidnai from the game it's in my best interest to find out what happens when he is gone. Next day I was planning to ask kitaman if anything about his role or actions changed (without revealing that I kidnapped aidnai). It was also an advantage to the town that aidnai was somewhat active. I'd rather keep him out of harms way. Secondly aidnai is pretty terrible. So since I'm not a Vigilante and can't kill him myself best bet is to remove him from the game and let the Town actually win, then bring him back later when we have a clue to whats going on so he can't fuck things up. From both angles; finding out more about this kitaman27-aidnai relationship, and removing a player that isn't really that good I'd be on a decent path for later scum hunting. But all of this begs the question for kitaman27 - now that you know aidnai's alias is Kagemusha did that name appear in your PM? Totalwar forum regulars does Kagemusha have any specific history with other players from that forum? On February 14 2011 08:45 Ace wrote: or maybe he's just that bad. Either way I'm done helping out in this game. I don't feel like trying to bring the town to victory if only 5 people are playing. Peace out. In Insane mafia, Ace used an 'inconsistency' in a role claim alongside psychological intimidation like this to not only beat a sure lynch, but get the blue lynched as well... if you're interested, check it out here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161289¤tpage=172#3422 and keep reading the next 20 pages or so lol... Now, that said, I'm considering the possibility that Ace is innocent and I just made a complete ass of myself. Along those lines, I've PMed pevergreen about what kind of notification I can expect if/when my power activates. I guess I'll just post the same questions here in the thread: [greeen]can you confirm/deny to me that my power activated, that I was targeted for a kill last night, or that I absorbed a hit? [/green]If he answers via PM, i'll post that. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
can you confirm/deny to me that my power activated, that I was targeted for a kill last night, or that I absorbed a hit? | ||
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why
United States215 Posts
On February 14 2011 15:53 aidnai wrote: Additionally, and I really think this is important, IF Ace was trying to kidnap me, why the hell would that show up in the day post? even more so considering it failed!? I'm certain there are plenty of roles and night actions going on, none of them showed up...except for kills. Actually, this makes perfect sense. Here pever talks about the night kill: On January 22 2011 15:57 pevergreen wrote: Any kills in this game are to be written by those who perform them. If nothing is given, or changes need to be made for in game purposes (defended, role blocked etc) the host will modify or create the kill with no regard to how good it may have been before he touched it. This indicates that the description of events will change based on other events that happen to the killer/killed. I think I am buying that Ace tried to kidnap you (not necessarily pro-town role) and that Ace was hit by mafia (unless someone has a hit to claim that hasn't yet). | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
On February 14 2011 15:31 Coagulation wrote: BTW Misder My playstyle this game has been 100% Textbook coagulation play. I really hope you mean 100% textbook coagulation town play. if so, fine. i'll admit, i didn't really do research on your playstyle, though i probably should. But I do recall that you are the one to typically just find the mafia, and not really one for analysis and such. And you did get pressured into saying more because everyone on day 1 said that you never posted enough analysis and such. | ||
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pevergreen
Australia252 Posts
Are there possibly clues in that post pointing to a specific character? I place no clues. | ||
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pevergreen
Australia252 Posts
kitaman was browsing the web, taking a break from participating in the conversation. He just got an email from his best friend in the whole world. It was a link to a cool new website. When the page finally loaded, kitaman dropped his laptop. He had started convulsing. His hands and legs contorted and began to flail around. He dropped from his seat and foam came out of his mouth. Unfortunately for him, no one managed to help him in time. As they carried the body of kitaman out, a face in the crowd saw it. "pevergreen died?" Multiple people nodded in confirmation. The man's eyes narrowed. "This is all I have to say:" he said, Alive: 25/30 deconduo SiNiquity Misder GGQ JBright gryffindor Project Psycho Johnhughthom ELITECubWarman8 Believer BrownBear Coagulation Insanious thefluffyone93 Beefy187 SouthRawrea Mr. Wiggles chaoser GMarshal darmousseh ilovejonn why aidnai me_viet Node Lynched: 1/30 zerroth (Strike for the South) Killed: 3/30 bumatlarge (TheSpartan) Ace (TinCow) kitaman27 (pevergreen) Suicided out of despair: 1/30 LunarDestiny (Louis VI the Fat) Day 2 continues. Day will end at Monday, Feb 14 11:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) Less than 4 hours remain in this day phase. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
On February 14 2011 16:06 why wrote: Actually, this makes perfect sense. Here pever talks about the night kill: This indicates that the description of events will change based on other events that happen to the killer/killed. I think I am buying that Ace tried to kidnap you (not necessarily pro-town role) and that Ace was hit by mafia (unless someone has a hit to claim that hasn't yet). Yes, so consider, Ace wrote a nice story where he tied me up in a gunny sack and then fed me to a lion but then pevergreen changes the story to fit the fact that Ace ended up dying. I really don't understand how this game mechanic provides evidence in favor of Ace... Again, the points: - Only kill targets showed up in the night post - I showed up in the night post - My killer died - I have a vet role with an unknown power that is bad for mafia Ace claims he was kidnapping me, but it doesn't make any sense that I (my role) would be named in the night post if I was simply a failed kidnap attempt. If Ace was kidnapping me, he wouldn't be writing me into a kill post; his killer would know nothing of me and not write me into the post; why would pevergreen edit me into the story? | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
Original Message From pevergreen: You have no power. You were targeted by an ability that succeeded, but the player was killed as well that night. I take this to mean I had nothing to do with Ace's death wtf... | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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why
United States215 Posts
On February 14 2011 16:48 aidnai wrote: Yes, so consider, Ace wrote a nice story where he tied me up in a gunny sack and then fed me to a lion but then pevergreen changes the story to fit the fact that Ace ended up dying. I really don't understand how this game mechanic provides evidence in favor of Ace... Again, the points: - Only kill targets showed up in the night post - I showed up in the night post - My killer died - I have a vet role with an unknown power that is bad for mafia Ace claims he was kidnapping me, but it doesn't make any sense that I (my role) would be named in the night post if I was simply a failed kidnap attempt. If Ace was kidnapping me, he wouldn't be writing me into a kill post; his killer would know nothing of me and not write me into the post; why would pevergreen edit me into the story? What? The first point (only kill targets showed up in the night post) is not supported by anything. Maybe "Only people interacting with people killed show up in the night post" would be accurate, but there is no evidence to support the first point. Presumably if a medic were to protect someone who would have died, they would show up in the night post, but they wouldn't have had to be targeted by a NK to get a mention necessarily. You are correct that either version is possible, it just seems more likely to me that there were just 2 KP and Ace and Bumatlarge got hit. | ||
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Believer
Sweden212 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On February 14 2011 16:47 pevergreen wrote: The town was in a foul mood. Cries about the "Curse of Kagemusha" were heard, and to some they fell on deaf ears, others listened and thought, but most simply heard and ignored. kitaman was browsing the web, taking a break from participating in the conversation. He just got an email from his best friend in the whole world. It was a link to a cool new website. When the page finally loaded, kitaman dropped his laptop. He had started convulsing. His hands and legs contorted and began to flail around. He dropped from his seat and foam came out of his mouth. Unfortunately for him, no one managed to help him in time. As they carried the body of kitaman out, a face in the crowd saw it. "pevergreen died?" Multiple people nodded in confirmation. The man's eyes narrowed. "This is all I have to say:" he said, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM Alive: 25/30 deconduo SiNiquity Misder GGQ JBright gryffindor Project Psycho Johnhughthom ELITECubWarman8 Believer BrownBear Coagulation Insanious thefluffyone93 Beefy187 SouthRawrea Mr. Wiggles chaoser GMarshal darmousseh ilovejonn why aidnai me_viet Node Lynched: 1/30 zerroth (Strike for the South) Killed: 3/30 bumatlarge (TheSpartan) Ace (TinCow) kitaman27 (pevergreen) Suicided out of despair: 1/30 LunarDestiny (Louis VI the Fat) Day 2 continues. Day will end at Monday, Feb 14 11:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) Less than 4 hours remain in this day phase. Okay so kita's affiliations betrayed him because of some failure? That's my guess. This is quite the irregularity, day kills seem somewhat early to me. Although it could be justified by some reason I guess. Anyone care to chip in here? | ||
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why
United States215 Posts
On February 14 2011 16:52 aidnai wrote: ok wtf, and now I get this from pevergreen... I take this to mean I had nothing to do with Ace's death wtf... Yeah, so Ace's story was correct at least. Means he wasn't mafia as there are only 2 KP that we've seen so far, both coming from mafia (there aren't any other claimed hits I don't think). Ace could still be 3rd-party though. | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
So it appears that people are yelling about the curse because of Ace, which may confirm that Ace triggered the effects. We know that kita and aidnai have some sort of relationship- it doesn't really seem too friendly. but then again, there are no clues in this game... however, the killer gets to write how the person dies. that means the author may have put in some sarcasm/irony in that, which would then i would like to think that aidnai did that (disregarding his roleclaim). | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
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why
United States215 Posts
Also, I need to go to sleep and so I need to vote for someone. Not much has gone on today so it has been hard to analyze. I will say that I doubt Misder is mafia at this point because he doesn't really seem to care about dying at this point (and only mafia will really care about dying right now, since we are nowhere near LYLO and as a townie you can still talk and everything) and there hasn't been any sort of counter-wagon. So, I'm going to vote for gryffindor because I find his tunneling of node on very inconclusive evidence to be scummy. Vote: gryffindor | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
and orgahs, just for kicks, what is the backstory between pevergreen and kagemusha? I saw kagemusha is a mod over at TW, and then in the day2 post there was this (from my character) "There was no way he knew that I was the dark one." Kage thought, "It was just pure luck. I should have won that game. I'm never working with pever again." | ||
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