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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 16 2011 01:13 GMT
#441
My mayor issue with this "select roles for spots" deal now is the fact that the draft order is already out, meaning that the mafia is free to propose whatever they wish, and land whatever juicy roles they want. At this point I don't think we have a choice but to go on individual choice and hope for the best, since the denial strategy was shot down when it could have made a difference.

I am going to be taking either an inba role or an anti-kp role.

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 16 2011 02:09 GMT
#442
If everyone followed what I said, we will have a good edge regardless of what mafia picks.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 16 2011 02:27 GMT
#443
On May 16 2011 11:09 bumatlarge wrote:
If everyone followed what I said, we will have a good edge regardless of what mafia picks.



You could be mafia!

The world will never know.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 16 2011 02:43 GMT
#444
Luckily I set my alarm for 5 in the morning in case plans changed. Jackasses.
Bartundar
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 16 2011 03:23 GMT
#445
On May 16 2011 09:01 Foolishness wrote:
These plans for the top 5-8 players to pick roles is retarded in it's current form.

If flamewheel/Caller/whoever don't agree to take their designated role (assuming we have a consensus on what roles they should take) we need to lynch them, no questions asked. What's to stop Scamp for all of a sudden posting "hey guys, I'm going to take Hero or Assassin (or whatever role he might want) sorry"? Are you just going to shift down the important role list even further? Yawn. Waste of time.

People are going to pick whatever they want to pick. I'm not opposed to general guidelines, such as town should focus on DT related roles or survival roles, whatever, but assigning roles to the top 5 players is just silly. If you are going to go that route, we should have everyone claim as soon as the picks are out. Either everyone should claim or no one should claim (that includes assigning roles before the picks). Nothing in between.

#1 flipflopper, also mimics exactly what I said. contributes nothing new, contradicts himself. textbook mafia tactiks here
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
May 16 2011 04:44 GMT
#446
Everyone get their role pm?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 04:45 GMT
#447
I've received my PM.

Just a random thought: Should people claim if they asked for a role and didn't get it? (Have people done this in past PYPs?)
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KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 16 2011 05:03 GMT
#448
On May 16 2011 13:45 infinitestory wrote:
I've received my PM.

Just a random thought: Should people claim if they asked for a role and didn't get it? (Have people done this in past PYPs?)


It would be near impossible to know if they were telling the truth.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 16 2011 05:15 GMT
#449
The only situation in which someone would even maybe want to immediately claim that they didn't get the role they wanted would be if they were high on the list, tried to pick traitor, and didn't get it. Then again, if a higher-up red went for a strong role and missed it they could say the same sort of thing to confuse/fuck with town so even that has some conditions attached to it.
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 05:21:58
May 16 2011 05:16 GMT
#450
[image loading]

Day 1


After a long day in the city, Ver walked down the streets despite the pouring rain. In the background, LSB and RoL were busy duking it out while he could hear a vocal minority of dissidents yelling incoherent nonsense as well. His walk was cut short by a loud squeal and engine rev from behind. Turning around, Ver had only a moment to register that a car was bolting straight at him before it was all over. Meanwhile at the office, Qatol's was filling out the last of his papers when he sighed and got up to stretch. Turning around, all he saw was a red dot before the sniper rifle in the distance went off, eliminating the town's great leader once and for all.

Oh, and Pyrrhuloxia stepped on a rake and died for good measure.

Qatol the Lawyer has been shot
Ver the Miller has been run over
Pyrrhuloxia the active inactive has been butchered


Please post all of your votes in the designated voting thread. You have 48 hours, or until 05:00 GMT (+00:00), two days from now (Tuesday). If I missed pm'ing you your role, please let me know ASAP. Also from this point on I will not tolerate inactivity so be warned!
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 16 2011 05:16 GMT
#451
PROFESSOR BADASS
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
May 16 2011 05:20 GMT
#452
On May 16 2011 13:45 infinitestory wrote:Just a random thought: Should people claim if they asked for a role and didn't get it? (Have people done this in past PYPs?)


Hmmm. I think that depends on the role that you were trying to get and missed on, especially if they're really anti-town. If you requested the traitor role or the Caller godfather role and didn't get it, then you should definitely say so. Then we know those roles are in the game and have some sense of where they may be. On the other hand, if you missed out on a role that the Mafia would love to snipe, such as one of the detective or medic roles, then your claim would hurt the town more than it would help.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 16 2011 05:20 GMT
#453
Flamewheel please nuke GMarshal. Thanks.

##Vote Kurumi
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 05:21 GMT
#454
On May 16 2011 14:20 Incognito wrote:
Flamewheel please nuke GMarshal. Thanks.

##Vote Kurumi

What the fuck?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
May 16 2011 05:22 GMT
#455
Amazing day post Ver
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 16 2011 05:26 GMT
#456
Claiming your role was taken wouldn't be the best idea right now, in my mind. Firstly, we don't know if they're lying or not, which has been brought up already. Secondly, if it is a pro-town role, it doesn't give town anything to reveal it, and only helps mafia to narrow down who has what role if you're near the top of the list. If you tried to pick an anti-town role, then we just enter into WIFOM, firstly over whether you're telling the truth, and secondly on what your own alignment is. Trying to figure out who is mafia and who is town from a taken role based on role-denial seems like WIFOM hell.

If your role was taken, just use that to try to determine for yourself, who has what role. This will help if at some point that person is forced to role-claim. Say, you tried to take vigilante, and the role was taken already. Then you know the person who is the vigilante is above you in the list. If someone below you tries to claim it, they are lying, or are the thief, which is still anti-town. If someone above you claims the role, it becomes much more likely the fewer people there are above you in the list. So, just keep this information to yourself, and to make better sense of claims when they come. (Though I think fake-claims will be rare, or hard to pull off, given the large number of roles and impossibility of duplicates)
you gotta dance
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
May 16 2011 05:29 GMT
#457
Ok now that 48 hours of wifom is over I have a question.
Is going through pregame really worth the amount of effort over results or should we play this like a normal game?

Im going to answer this by saying: sort of.

The biggest reason behind this are plans proposed by Radfield and Batman both are basically the same thing. Pro-town plans to attempt to control roles. When has this ever worked in PYP? Never, invariably someone always effs it up. So why bother with wifom, the only real analysis done on actual people was done by Caller, so really I think our best move is to play the game like a really blue heavy normal game.

Im liable to think somebody who suggested a no-pick list is scum just because it looks towny on the outside, control is a scum style so why let them get away with it.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 16 2011 05:45 GMT
#458
Hrm.
Kurumi... what was your second number pick?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 16 2011 06:05 GMT
#459
On May 16 2011 14:29 OriginalName wrote:
Ok now that 48 hours of wifom is over I have a question.
Is going through pregame really worth the amount of effort over results or should we play this like a normal game?

Im going to answer this by saying: sort of.

The biggest reason behind this are plans proposed by Radfield and Batman both are basically the same thing. Pro-town plans to attempt to control roles. When has this ever worked in PYP? Never, invariably someone always effs it up. So why bother with wifom, the only real analysis done on actual people was done by Caller, so really I think our best move is to play the game like a really blue heavy normal game.

Im liable to think somebody who suggested a no-pick list is scum just because it looks towny on the outside, control is a scum style so why let them get away with it.


No, I think it definitely worked in PYP2, it brought a lot of pressure on the first slots, who will inevitably get good roles. PYP1 was a bit fluky, and PYP3s plan was brought forward by LSB the SK, and the plan gave everyone a particular role. If the mafia team coordinated a bit more, we could have denied and fucked up a lot more towny stuff with that plan. Even when we did a little bit, we created a lot of chaos and what not.

I was trying to distribute blue roles as best as possible without causing mafia having any clue exactly who has what. I'd be susprised if more then 50% of people listened to me, so the only thing I'd say for certain is that mafia did grab some of the no-pick list. They would be stupid not to.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 06:06 GMT
#460
On May 16 2011 14:45 flamewheel wrote:
Hrm.
Kurumi... what was your second number pick?

y has nukes bro?
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