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I'm planning to build a new computer in the coming month and I haven't built one in years.
What kind of computer if I wanted to do some streaming? I did some reading around and the general censuses seems to say that streaming is mostly CPU dependent but I wasn't able to find a 'minimum' requirement to stream in a decent quality.
I mean chances are I'm looking to spend about $700 max, so I'm not sure how far it would take me.
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@crazeman
You would want a quad core for streaming. If the $700 budget includes an operating system ($100), you're looking at either an Athlon II X4 or a Phenom II X4. If it doesn't include an operating system, you'll most likely looking at getting a core i5 2400.
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i dont think a phenom is a good idea, either get one of the cheaper sandy bridge cpus or an athlon
get cheaper ram, theres some kingston 4g 1333mhz for like 44 bucks at msy, or get the ripjaws for a bit extra (55 dollars or something)
silverstone 4 lyfe niggah actually i dunno much about that psu. people seem to really like the tp-550 for a little bit extra and that one is really only a 500w unit anyway. the tp-550 supplies more power than that silverstone psu
if you go the sandy bridge path, theres cheap 100 dollar asrock h61/67 motherboards around
can you rip a dvd drive out of an old comp or a friend's old comp? coz 50 bucks is grotesque =/
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Yeah, you're overpaying a little.
RAM speed makes practically no difference so just grab a 1333 MHz kit like this:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=13598
SilverStone Strider Plus 600W (Enhance OEM) is a good/great PSU, but it's got overkill wattage for what you need. If you don't need a modular PSU, the Antec Neo Eco 450C (Seasonic OEM, based on S12II) is decent and should suit your needs:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=13454
Also, I don't think your build needs those extra case fans. I know Australia gets hot in the summer, but those components aren't that hot by themselves. It's not a bad idea though.
An GPU alternative would be a HD 6850 (180 AUD), which is about like a GTX 460 1GB:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1163&products_id=15914
What are you using the computer for? For gaming performance, you're better off with a Core i3-2100 system, even though (or maybe especially) since that can't be overclocked. You've got better upgrade options keeping the motherboard if you go with LGA 1155, anyway--particularly if Ivy Bridge ends up using the same socket.
omg AUS CD/DVD drive prices lol. x_x
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hehehe i dont know what happened, a month or two ago it was like 20 bucks for a regular samsung dvdrw, now they're like 40-50 bucks >.>
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also dude do you live in sydney? i bought a 24ii aoc monitor for like 150 bob at pcdiy in auburn
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all at msy, didnt check for the addon cards or any of that 
i3-2100 $139
asrock h61-m $89
4g 1333mhz kingston $44
corsair cx430 $59
antec 300 $55
samsung dvdrw $36
powercolor 6850 $178
212+ $33
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Ah Thanks for the RAM recommendations :D
I'll mostly be using this PC for gaming (mostly SC, maybe some fps) and standard uni work
Wouldn't the PSU help upgrading later?
I'll probably get the DVD from somewhere else(prob msy) considering... $50 eeew.
Would building on the i3-2100 be better than the Phenom? Havent really been updated on CPUs for the past years.
@Myr
About the memory, can you enlighten me about the memory and the mobo chipset? Would the 870 support that? I'm a bit wary about RAM now since a friend of mine had memory problems before that the mobo didnt like.
@Legatus
Thanks for the recommendation, I'm fidgety about the mobo though (I really need the SPDIF out =p)
Yes, I'm from Syd. I'd probably get that monitor since its pretty cheap for a huge screen :D
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Here's a review showing the difference between the Phenom II, Core i3 2100, and various other processors: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20
Unfortunately there is no motherboard for the core i3 2100 that has coax output (at least that I know of).
600w would help with upgrading but this depends on what upgrading you had in mind? If it's SLI / CrossfireX, don't do it. It's a terrible upgrade path as newer generations of graphics cards usually outperform the older ones. I'll give you an example, 8800GT came out 3 years ago for $200. We now have the 6850 and GTX 460 1GB at the $200 pricepoint, both of which outperform a 8800GT SLI setup and produce less noise and heat.
450w is plenty for your configuration and you will even have room to upgrade to the next generation's $200 card as well.
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I ordered all the parts for my build (mobo, cpu, graphics, ram, hdd, case, psu) split between two stores.
Question: Do I need other connectors or cables or everything I need will come with these components? (I'm gonna make the build late when all stores will be close and I don't wanna get stuck on missing parts  )
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some psus dont come with the power cable, but yeah the motherboard should have all the cables and junk u need for at least 1 hdd/dvd drive
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Most MB come with an IDE cable or two, and 2 SATA cables
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On April 10 2011 17:16 HuggyBear wrote:
@Myr
About the memory, can you enlighten me about the memory and the mobo chipset? Would the 870 support that? I'm a bit wary about RAM now since a friend of mine had memory problems before that the mobo didnt like
It depends, if you get some standard g.skill, Curial, or Corsair shit you probably don't run into problems. The only times I've encountered memory problems were with 1156 Gigabyte boards which really seemed to hate OCZ memory (could probably be traced back to OCZ having done something strange to their DDR3 memory, go figure they've pulled out of the memory market).
Unfortunately there is no motherboard for the core i3 2100 that has coax output (at least that I know of).
Gigabyte's mITX motherboard has coax output I believe. Pretty pricy but really cool form factor.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=16921
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Hi there,
I, too, am thinking about buying a new pc in the near future (around one, or two months - maybe a bit more...). I generally like tinkering around with nice builds, but the last two days I confirmed, that I lack the knowledge to really be able to evaluate which stuff I do need and which I don't. Hopefully you can give me some advice.
First of all the general conditions:
+ Show Spoiler +- My Budget:
Around 1000 Euro would be ok, but I would not mind spending less. I prefer spending my money on things that make a real difference and not just to have the newest/biggest/etc., at the moment I don't really know where this is, so this value here is really nothing fix.
- The Resolution:
Here comes my first question - can you explain, why this is so important? At the moment, I play at 1280x1024, but since I tend to keep my pcs quite long, I'd prefer to at least be able to play at higher resolution, if I ever buy a new monitor, somewhen. In any case, as far as I understand it, a gpu that may be overkill for current games at 1280x1024 wouldn't be, for games in a year, or two, or not?
- What I want to do:
Play games...
Of course, there will be other things, but they shouldn't affect hardwaredecisions, I guess. The most important is probably, that I use linux as a second os, but I managed to get everthing running with my radeon x1900, as well as my creative sb x-fi xtreme music, so I fear nothing...(yet^^). Watching movies should hopefully work for most possible builds.
- The Upgrade Cycle:
I think I bought my current pc four, or five years ago and just added 2gb of ram in the meantime. As a consequence the longevity of the parts is a rather big concern to me. I, for example am not very happy with my videocard, because it gets too hot, too fast. This could possibly be my last gaming pc, so I'd like to be able to use it for writing, netsurfing etc. for quite some time.
- When it has to be done:
As I said, I'm not decided, but thinking in months - I guess that The Witcher 2 will finally be a little too much for my antique machine...
- Overclocking:
Is something I won't be doing.
- SLI/Crossfire:
I just asked wiki, what that means - is it worth it? Probably not...
- Where will I buy my stuff:
I had good experience with www.mindfactory.de in the past, but that's definitley no must.
- Additional:
Given the choice between comparable components, I generally prefer the more stable, less electricity sucking and probably less heating up one.
I neither need an OS, nor a tower, where I have an already damped one that I can really recommend.
In the beginning I wanted to build a pc on my own and then let you comment on my choices, but in the end that would not have been much help, I guess...
I would be happy if you could explain your cpu, video card, and motherboard-choices. For first I was thinking about the Core i5 2500 - is the i7 that much better, and what does "free multiplicator" (2500K) mean? I guess its something concerning overclocking and thus not important for me. With the gpu I probably would have picked the GTX 560 Ti, but I not really sure and I have literally no idea which videocard... Same goes for the motherboard, where I believe, that good quality is quite important, but I have no clue how to identify this.
For my hard drive, I don't really need much space. I have 200GB atm, and I don't have shortage of space, so I think about getting a 500GB hdd and a small (32GB?) ssd for Windows, Linux and maybe one game I play more often. I somewhere read, that the ssds can't be overwritten infinite times - does that really matter in a timespan of two years, or something (since it's only a small drive, I just could rebuy it, then...).
And lastly, do I need a sound card? It probably depends on the onboard sound of the motherboard. Does a soundcard influence the sound, or performance? I have a quite good HiFi system and a soundcard atm, but I don't know, if the last part really matters...
Thanks for any advice!
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Thx.
Cute looking PSU... 
Why the 2500K instead of the 2500? Why do you prefer the HD6950 over the GTX 560 Ti, which has a better performance in all of the tests I read? Or is it the specific videocard, to which I don't really find much, except one review saying, that it's pretty loud.
At last, why 8GB of RAM, I myself cannot evaluate it, but the few things on this, I read so far where saying, that 4GB are all I need. And if I need some more, in a year, it should be easy to just buy one, or two additional racks.
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Why do you prefer the HD6950 over the GTX 560 Ti, which has a better performance in all of the tests I read?
Not exactly. The 560 Ti only becomes quite a bit better than the 6950 1GB when you start taking overclocking into account but its really a matter of preference and cost. The 560 Ti is a bit quieter too if you care about that and has some killer pre-overclocked cards.
I don't have a lot of experience with Linux but I think they're both stable. I think the rule of thumb is that nVidia has better closed source drivers but AMD has better open source drivers. Since you seem willing to use Windows to play games, I don't think it will honestly matter.
That being said, AMD really did a cracker of a job with Crossfire (I believe its actually better than SLI right now which is kind of amazing since nVidia has always smashed AMD/ATi at multi-GPU configurations) which is probably why he suggested HD6950s. I don't agree with going for the dual GPU upgrade option (since its 100% dependent on driver support and two years pretty much means two new series of GPUs) but if you want to, its there.
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