EPTThey can get PR shit if they post something without thinking about it first so i think thats why some of the pros don't do it as often in the non-strategy thread that have "debates" going on, the non "debate" threads are simply pointless to post into since all you can say its "gz" ( referring to the "new team formed", "player X joined Y", "new league is gonna start on Z"... etc kind of threads ) and i would guess not so many pros like to do that ( some of them do ) and there haven't been many strategy threads where the "answer" to the OP question or to some other question in the thread are not obvious enough to require a pro to explain them.
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
They can get PR shit if they post something without thinking about it first so i think thats why some of the pros don't do it as often in the non-strategy thread that have "debates" going on, the non "debate" threads are simply pointless to post into since all you can say its "gz" ( referring to the "new team formed", "player X joined Y", "new league is gonna start on Z"... etc kind of threads ) and i would guess not so many pros like to do that ( some of them do ) and there haven't been many strategy threads where the "answer" to the OP question or to some other question in the thread are not obvious enough to require a pro to explain them. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On January 02 2012 18:26 GiMMiK wrote: Grobyc and T.O.P- Why do you think they stopped caring about posting so much? I'm really quite curious. Is it the new members? The new atmosphere? people are obnoxious imbeciles | ||
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
;D I love you | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
coincided with SC2 release :D | ||
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GiMMiK
United States43 Posts
Couldn't have said it better myself.  | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Satire
Canada295 Posts
I really doubt debating strategy with people not at their level has any sort of applicable meaning to them, and they're likely too busy to offer much insight to the game. To be honest, Day9 does a good job of offering insight into the game already with his daily's, as do many other pros with their streams. There's just not really a need for them to post on the strategical aspect of the game. That leaves issues of self interest, which are hit and miss for anyone. It's a big community, and a very important one for Sc2. I'm sure pros are lurking around reading, and some of them do post now and again, but to be honest it's not really a big deal. They interact with the community in so many different ways already, in and outside of the internet. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On January 02 2012 19:11 Megaliskuu wrote: Nowadays when "pros" post they get a large number of people just nuthugging them and it ruins threads. Like right above your post lol. | ||
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
On January 02 2012 18:05 GiMMiK wrote: In NO way am I saying the pros don't do enough for the community, because I am greatful that there is even a place where pros can interact. That is awesome. The basis of my post is about the number of lurker pros on Team Liquid and how when they do come out and speak on certain issues, they brighten everyone's day. So, if they're already reading the forums, why not give us their perspective? Idra has 11k+ posts. You have 34. Who is the lurker?? | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
This is why some don't post anymore.Because when they do the thread derails into a fan club. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
This post is just adding to the fact. TT1 is probably the only pro that can post regularly on TL without having people hug his nuts. | ||
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GiMMiK
United States43 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On January 02 2012 19:21 LoLAdriankat wrote: This post is just adding to the fact. TT1 is probably the only pro that can post regularly on TL without having people hug his nuts. That's because he blends in with the crowd. Not sure if that is preferable. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On January 02 2012 19:29 bgx wrote: Nani/Idra dont care that much about derailing the thread, they are trollers after all, but what Top says is kinda more important that many top figures, including even Idra were more inclined to help community in strategy forums etc, but now its rare or non-existant. Seems like nowadays creating an image seems more important. no it actually is that people are imbeciles. any time a known player posts they risk someone picking an argument with them for the hell of it, or just having some random person go "lolol you got raped by x last week how can you post" or "why are you posting instead of practicing you're terrible" | ||
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GiMMiK
United States43 Posts
On January 02 2012 19:36 IdrA wrote: no it actually is that people are imbeciles. any time a known player posts they risk someone picking an argument with them for the hell of it, or just having some random person go "lolol you got raped by x last week how can you post" or "why are you posting instead of practicing you're terrible" I see. That makes sense. It's just a little sad that the pros don't feel safe to post because of the radical ideas people have about pros. I mean I think that getting an opinion from anyone better than me would be worth it, especially in the strategy forum. Can people really not resist basing a pros knowledge in any forum based off very recent results? | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On January 02 2012 18:19 T.O.P. wrote: Back in the broodwar days, Idra used to post a lot. He's one of the few writing good posts in the strategy forum. SC2 came and he no longer cares. yeah when I was just getting into TL via sc2's upcoming beta/started beta I loved reading IdrA's posts. i really identified with his upfront approach and loved seeing him argue so strongly; plenty of zergs used to whine, next-to-none were actually qualified. even when it's off-topic ... blah. you have made me such a fan, idra. you're awesome. | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On January 02 2012 19:39 GiMMiK wrote: I see. That makes sense. It's just a little sad that the pros don't feel safe to post because of the radical ideas people have about pros. I mean I think that getting an opinion from anyone better than me would be worth it, especially in the strategy forum. Can people really not resist basing a pros knowledge in any forum based off very recent results? I think it's an effect of the popularity of competitive SC2 in the foreign scene. With the larger community that comes with a more popular game, a more clearly defined split between the players and the audience will be present. I guess that back in the days when it was just BW, it was more of a everyone-knows-everyone type of community, where it's much easier for players to interact without having too much risk of a random unknown fanboy/hater messing up the discussion with gibberish. | ||
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Dariusz
Poland657 Posts
On January 02 2012 19:36 IdrA wrote: no it actually is that people are imbeciles. any time a known player posts they risk someone picking an argument with them for the hell of it, or just having some random person go "lolol you got raped by x last week how can you post" or "why are you posting instead of practicing you're terrible" That's why i like the idea of Artosis SCDojo blog/website, where he writes about strategy and 99% trolls won't even find it, while he still gives alot of value. The bigger the forum, the less likely it is to have any kind of serious discussion. Posting on TL or reddit indeed just provokes what you're talking about. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
There's just so many newbies coming with the release of SC2 that it's hard for pros to feel appreciated when posting. Just like IdrA wrote, so many imbeciles. AFAIK, several pros has said they've stopped reading the strategy forum on teamliquid because there are so many newbies who don't bring anything to the discussion and just derails everything. | ||
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