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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
January 02 2012 11:44 GMT
#61
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295998&currentpage=2#27

not too sure why I post
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Snettik
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland186 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 11:54:24
January 02 2012 11:50 GMT
#62
It would actually be nice if there would be a forum where only pros/people who know about sc2 could post and most people would just read it (like me and other noobs). That would pretty much be the opposite of TL these days. Pro posts get buried under a mountain of shit.

EDIT: also i'm too dumb to see what is a retarded strategy post and what is not so it's really hard to actually get anything out of the strategy forum
ShatterStorm
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 11:53:59
January 02 2012 11:52 GMT
#63
On January 02 2012 20:30 Dunedain wrote:
TL should enter a minimum post league, that way bronze people can't argue and post stupid things. I believe the high level players will post more then and the stupid comments will stay away


Nice thought, but there are idiots in every league.
Sure, the Idiot Masters and Grand masters players posts would have a better grounding in game theory and strategy, but that would be the only differentiator for post quality from some Bronze nub thinking he knows best.

You'd still have the fan boys and arrogant posters in spades

EDIT: not saying everyone is an idiot, just that individuals who are idiots can be found regardless of league.
Do or do not, there is no try
dementrio
Profile Joined November 2010
678 Posts
January 02 2012 11:53 GMT
#64
On January 02 2012 20:50 Snettik wrote:
It would actually be nice if there would be a forum where only pros/people who know about sc2 could post and most people would just read it (like me and other noobs). That would pretty much be the opposite of TL these days. Pro posts get buried under a mountain of shit.



Yes! or maybe pick back up the blue poster idea and have an option to nuke all non-blue posts.
Willzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom774 Posts
January 02 2012 11:53 GMT
#65
Oh there are always idiots on all forums KawaiiRice, the rest of us appreciate your posts
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
January 02 2012 11:54 GMT
#66
On January 02 2012 20:50 Snettik wrote:
It would actually be nice if there would be a forum where only pros/people who know about sc2 could post and most people would just read it (like me and other noobs). That would pretty much be the opposite of TL these days. Pro posts get buried under a mountain of shit.

I think this was discussed during the last update of the TL forums but it seemed they was hesitant to make such a separation though they might consider it in the future. Not 100 % if I remember that correctly but it should be somewhere in the forums.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
January 02 2012 11:56 GMT
#67
On January 02 2012 20:44 KawaiiRice wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295998&currentpage=2#27

not too sure why I post


From what I've read from you, you're a smart cookie a therefore prolly know it, but I'll still will say it:
TL is like everywhere else, there is a loud (and annoying) minority criticizing and trying to demolish any attempt of building something and the quiet minority who actually enjoys what is done.
When I read a pro's insight on TL, i usually feel "thankful" for the time taken to explain what it really was about, but will i post "thx for the analysis"? no, it would just be somekind of flood in this ocean of nuthudging , so no oint posting if no relevant question. Most people respect and enjoy that pros are sharing their knowledge and so on, so I do think it's still worth it and just don't bother losing your time dealing with hate/ignorance
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Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France2030 Posts
January 02 2012 11:56 GMT
#68
A lot of people in the strat forum have good intentions and want to share their knowledge with the community. However a lot of them lack modesty and act like douches when they don't agree with what a pro/famous poster wrote.

I've found myself in this situation once or twice when I was completely sure that what the pro posted was wrong, but was cautious enough to keep my mouth shut ( and then discovered some time after that I was wrong... ).
geiko.813 (EU)
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
January 02 2012 11:58 GMT
#69
I think it would be interesting if TL somehow linked with Blizzard so that you would have to link your SC2 profile to your TL account, and then thread makers could limit posts in threads to masters+, or even diamond+.

However, this would of course ostracize the majority of players that are below diamond (which make up a LOT of the community) and would take a lot of thought to be implemented correctly.

It really is getting annoying though to have SO many posts that unfortunately are clueless about the game make up the majority of posts in strat sections...
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Origine
Profile Joined January 2010
France167 Posts
January 02 2012 11:58 GMT
#70
mainly because what's being said by pros directly affect their reputation, but some don't care and speak their mind (Idra and Cloud come to mine) others simply dont post to correct all the non-senses posted by lower-leagues players.
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Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
January 02 2012 11:59 GMT
#71
On January 02 2012 20:44 KawaiiRice wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295998&currentpage=2#27

not too sure why I post


For the love of god please continue to post!!
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
January 02 2012 11:59 GMT
#72
It would be amazing if in_dove or any former BW pro posted in the BW strategy forum and giving advice....
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
January 02 2012 11:59 GMT
#73
On January 02 2012 20:54 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 20:50 Snettik wrote:
It would actually be nice if there would be a forum where only pros/people who know about sc2 could post and most people would just read it (like me and other noobs). That would pretty much be the opposite of TL these days. Pro posts get buried under a mountain of shit.

I think this was discussed during the last update of the TL forums but it seemed they was hesitant to make such a separation though they might consider it in the future. Not 100 % if I remember that correctly but it should be somewhere in the forums.

There was a system like that on the WoW PvP forum Arenajunkies, where only people who achieved gladiator (top 0.5%) in one of the seasons could post in the strat forum. Granted there were a lot less stupid posts than the unrestricted part of the forum, there were still a shit ton of them. I think you would need a very high restriction for something like that to give good results, probably only established pros.
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
January 02 2012 12:07 GMT
#74
I also think they just dont want to share their opinion because they dont want to get in such an argument that could damage their public image.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
January 02 2012 12:08 GMT
#75
I'm always really appreciative of pro feedback since it's really the only strategy information I can take at face value. These days I try to get my questions in on player's streams when they're watching the chat during queue lol. Desperate, but I've gotten some useful info.

Really wish that there was a Strategy forums for people that acknowledge they don't know shit, even at Masters I only know macro and basic timings.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
January 02 2012 12:14 GMT
#76
Perhaps pros/GM players could get an icon or something so they are easily identifiable.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
January 02 2012 12:17 GMT
#77
On January 02 2012 19:36 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 19:29 bgx wrote:
Nani/Idra dont care that much about derailing the thread, they are trollers after all, but what Top says is kinda more important that many top figures, including even Idra were more inclined to help community in strategy forums etc, but now its rare or non-existant. Seems like nowadays creating an image seems more important.

no it actually is that people are imbeciles. any time a known player posts they risk someone picking an argument with them for the hell of it, or just having some random person go "lolol you got raped by x last week how can you post" or "why are you posting instead of practicing you're terrible"

I don't understand why you still wouldn't post in the strat section and trust mods to ban those people. The purge changed things a little bit I think.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 12:28:08
January 02 2012 12:25 GMT
#78
they get too much hate for it or derail the thread

its impossible to discuss it with people when half the people nuthugg(nice word lol) and the other ones have to bring up some form of WELL I SAW YOUR STREAM or WELL, HOW ABOUT YOU DO THAT YOURESLF, CAUSE IN GAME X VS Y YOU DIDNT DO THAT etc.
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Apoo
Profile Joined January 2011
413 Posts
January 02 2012 12:27 GMT
#79
For me as a player and as a viewer a only progamer forum section would be the greatest thing in the world, so i could read the discussions about the newest strategies and their ideas behind it. I would improve my play without just copy XvY BO and i would get a better understanding what the pros are doing while watching them.
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
January 02 2012 12:33 GMT
#80
On January 02 2012 21:14 Jedclark wrote:
Perhaps pros/GM players could get an icon or something so they are easily identifiable.


Their posts are already highlighted the strategy forum?
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