A mature discussion about the toronto slutwalk - Page 2

On April 05 2011 03:28 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
If this is that obvious? Then why has no one been able to produce even the slightest statistical evidence or indication for it?

There is no statistical evidence for this, and indeed, far more evidence for the inverse case.

On April 05 2011 03:29 travis wrote:


what? how would they do that?



what are you talking about?

On April 05 2011 03:15 travis wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that a horny guy is more likely to rape someone than a guy that isn't horny.

And I think it's also pretty obvious that dressing like a slut makes most guys horny.

[B]On April 05 2011 03:38 N.geNuity wrote:[/B

So really, instead of saying "oh yeah it makes sense", half of an effort on wikipedia really suggests two things:
1) provocative dressing does not really encourage it. Vast majority rapes occur at a person's home or a party (presumably in a home of some sort) and most women say they knew the assailant beforehand (again from wikipedia). You're inside someone's home: maybe you are dressed like a slut, but you really shouldn't blame the victim for perhaps dressing slutty if they are in a home of someone they know and (hypothetically) trust.
2) alcohol is largest contributing factor to rape attempts/successful rapes.

On April 05 2011 03:49 AlexDeLarge wrote:
I believe the vast majority of police officers are total idiots, so arguing about a statement they made, whether right or wrong, is laughable.

But for the sake of argument, i'm gonna assume his statement "women shouldn't dress like such sluts and they complain about being raped" stems from his inner frustrations. His history of violence (natural from the profession he chose) coupled with his mediocre IQ and the fact that his primal animalistic brain takes priority over this intelligent side, leads me to believe he actually lusts deep down to "force his way" upon some hot, slutty girls he would normally never have acces to, being the lowly person that he is in society.

What do i think about this particular subject? While i don't approve of rape, some sluts simply have it coming for them sometimes. Let's not glorify women and say they are pure, innocent creatures who deserve only affection. I'm sure many of these girls, if they were put in a position of power and raw strength compared to men, they would abuse the hell out of us.

tl;dr skip to the story below

P.S. Funny story. One night i had some girl alone over my place. She ended up smoking a lot of weed and passed out almost completely (was maybe 10% conscious). I tried to make her feel comfortable, carried her to bed cuz she obviously wasn't feeling well, gave her a light massage etc.

But then i started getting a little bit horny. So i said, ahh what the hell. Fucked the shit out of her while she was 90% unconscious (this was basically our first date).

Now before you think i'm a despicable person, she did text me a few days later and said "had fun the other night. thanks for "raping" me :p". I later ended up in a relationship with her, rofl.

Would you guys consider what i did to her a criminal act of rape?

So, with regards to the "70%" know their victims, wikipedia at least cites this for a US statistic: "Over two thirds of all rapes occur in someone's home. 31% occur in the perpetrators' homes, 27% in the victims' homes and 10% in homes shared by the victim and perpetrator. 7% occur at parties, 7% in vehicles, 4% outdoors and 2% in bars". I cite this because it's kind of more relevant--a person is not forced into a home. They plan to go to a person's home. And going to someone's home really implies more knowledge about someone than if, say, women were all raped at parties ("yeah, I knew him because I met him ONE time at this bar").

1) provocative dressing does not really encourage it. Vast majority rapes occur at a person's home or a party (presumably in a home of some sort) and most women say they knew the assailant beforehand (again from wikipedia). You're inside someone's home: maybe you are dressed like a slut, but you really shouldn't blame the victim for perhaps dressing slutty if they are in a home of someone they know and (hypothetically) trust.
2) alcohol is largest contributing factor to rape attempts/successful rapes.

I don't really agree with either of these statements.

1. I can't see how any level of horniness could bring on rape.

2. A girl that dresses like a slut may get more attention, but that's about all.

On April 05 2011 03:49 AlexDeLarge wrote:
I believe the vast majority of police officers are total idiots, so arguing about a statement they made, whether right or wrong, is laughable.

But for the sake of argument, i'm gonna assume his statement "women shouldn't dress like such sluts and they complain about being raped" stems from his inner frustrations. His history of violence (natural from the profession he chose) coupled with his mediocre IQ and the fact that his primal animalistic brain takes priority over this intelligent side, leads me to believe he actually lusts deep down to "force his way" upon some hot, slutty girls he would normally never have acces to, being the lowly person that he is in society.

What do i think about this particular subject? While i don't approve of rape, some sluts simply have it coming for them sometimes. Let's not glorify women and say they are pure, innocent creatures who deserve only affection. I'm sure many of these girls, if they were put in a position of power and raw strength compared to men, they would abuse the hell out of us.

tl;dr skip to the story below

P.S. Funny story. One night i had some girl alone over my place. She ended up smoking a lot of weed and passed out almost completely (was maybe 10% conscious). I tried to make her feel comfortable, carried her to bed cuz she obviously wasn't feeling well, gave her a light massage etc.

But then i started getting a little bit horny. So i said, ahh what the hell. Fucked the shit out of her while she was 90% unconscious (this was basically our first date).

Now before you think i'm a despicable person, she did text me a few days later and said "had fun the other night. thanks for "raping" me :p". I later ended up in a relationship with her, rofl.

Would you guys consider what i did to her a criminal act of rape?

On April 05 2011 03:49 AlexDeLarge wrote:
I believe the vast majority of police officers are total idiots, so arguing about a statement they made, whether right or wrong, is laughable.

But for the sake of argument, i'm gonna assume his statement "women shouldn't dress like such sluts and they complain about being raped" stems from his inner frustrations. His history of violence (natural from the profession he chose) coupled with his mediocre IQ and the fact that his primal animalistic brain takes priority over this intelligent side, leads me to believe he actually lusts deep down to "force his way" upon some hot, slutty girls he would normally never have acces to, being the lowly person that he is in society.

What do i think about this particular subject? While i don't approve of rape, some sluts simply have it coming for them sometimes. Let's not glorify women and say they are pure, innocent creatures who deserve only affection. I'm sure many of these girls, if they were put in a position of power and raw strength compared to men, they would abuse the hell out of us.

P.S. Funny story. One night i had some girl alone over my place. She ended up smoking a lot of weed and passed out almost completely (was maybe 10% conscious). I tried to make her feel comfortable, carried her to bed cuz she obviously wasn't feeling well, gave her a light massage etc.

But then i started getting a little bit horny. So i said, ahh what the hell. Fucked the shit out of her while she was 90% unconscious (this was basically our first date).

Now before you think i'm a despicable person, she did text me a few days later and said "had fun the other night. thanks for "raping" me :p". I later ended up in a relationship with her, rofl.

Would you guys consider what i did to her a criminal act of rape?

On April 05 2011 03:43 Zorkmid wrote:


I don't really agree with either of these statements.

1. I can't see how any level of horniness could bring on rape.

2. A girl that dresses like a slut may get more attention, but that's about all.

On April 05 2011 03:54 Gene wrote:
lol idk if "horny guys will rape" was a troll or not

do you guys think to-be-rapists walk down the street and rate women 1-10, then when they find a 10 they say imma rape her? that's retarded, rape is not based on sexual attraction.