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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
January 28 2011 01:23 GMT
#21
try other games. i suspect its a corruption with sc2 installation.
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Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 02:01:43
January 28 2011 01:33 GMT
#22
Could anyone suggest any other games which I could try and test my FPS on I am currently limited on my amount of PC games I currently only have Crysis and SC2 installed.

OC to 4.5 on air,

( use alcohol/wipe off )
spread a dot of x23-7783 paste ( works better than silver )

go into bios to disable cpu throttling ( there's 2 options there ) one drops the multiplier, the other one halts execution...


Is my current setup able to handle such a high Overclocking? I am not experienced with any kind of overclocking and do not have any of this paste or any kind currently.
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PhiGgoT
Profile Joined August 2004
Vietnam151 Posts
January 28 2011 01:37 GMT
#23
Your power supply is lacking I would say.
ProjectVirtue
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada360 Posts
January 28 2011 02:32 GMT
#24
It sounds to me like your PSU is a little low? i remember the 580 being pretty power hungry
my rig is pretty similar, but from 2 years ago, i had to get a kw PSU to supply computers hunger for energy =\ (course i'm overclocking from 2.4 to 4.0 which eats more but yeah)
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 13:56:05
January 28 2011 13:55 GMT
#25
on amd procs, even if you don't OC the cpu, you can still up the QPI settings... and it'll bring it fairly close to an i7

he does have an ACF7... he could raise it a tiny bit to 3.5 -4.00
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 14:15:34
January 28 2011 14:15 GMT
#26
Two suggestions:

1) I personally don't think overclocking your CPU will fix anything. Your low framerate doesn't result from not overclocking your CPU.

2) Did you try any regular video benchmarks? I am out of touch with what benchmarks to use, but if you look at GFX / CPU reviews, you might find a few. If your system is also underperforming there, it might be a general problem, if not, it should be related to SC2.
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theSAiNT
Profile Joined July 2009
United States726 Posts
January 28 2011 14:24 GMT
#27
Run Futuremark and post your scores. It's a free, synthetic benchmark of GPU + CPU performance.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 14:26:57
January 28 2011 14:24 GMT
#28
He could at least try to disable the two throttling options in bios ( one will drop the multiplier at times so he'll go down possibly 600-1000 mhz sometimes

the other one will temporarily halt execution
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purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 15:02:50
January 28 2011 14:46 GMT
#29
he needs a 800-850w psu. he has a badass gpu and 2 hard drives. All running on 600... that crazy underpowered. You went cheap on the one piece of the computer that matters the most...
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 15:16:41
January 28 2011 14:55 GMT
#30
Doesn't particularly sound like your system is "underperforming" that greatly, its exactly the reason why there is little point buying high end computer hardware for games these days. Starcraft 2 only manges to use two cores so its heavily dependent on clock speed, which means the 8 threads on your processor are absolutely useless.

The stock i7 950 is inferior or simply equal to the stock Lynnfields (i5 760 and i7 870) on socket 1156 simply because the Lynnfields have a much more aggressive turbo boost. Its also part of the reason why you see the Lynnfields annihilating AMD in game related benchmarks since its never running at its "stock" speeds. You shouldn't be too surprised about 40-60 FPS ingame because Starcraft 2 isn't threaded enough for the processor to show its true power unfortunately...

A GTX580 isn't going to change much seeing how CPU dependent RTS and strategy games are. What you can do to improve ingame performance is by turning off some useless settings like animated unit portraits, which for me was the thing that made ultra unplayable to playable.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
January 28 2011 15:24 GMT
#31
On January 28 2011 23:55 Womwomwom wrote:
Doesn't particularly sound like your system is "underperforming" that greatly, its exactly the reason why there is little point buying high end computer hardware for games these days. Starcraft 2 only manges to use two cores so its heavily dependent on clock speed, which means the 8 threads on your processor are absolutely useless.

The stock i7 950 is inferior or simply equal to the stock Lynnfields (i5 760 and i7 870) on socket 1156 simply because the Lynnfields have a much more aggressive turbo boost; the reason people buy socket 1366 is for PCI lanes. Its also part of the reason why you see the Lynnfields annihilating AMD in game related benchmarks since its never running at its "stock" speeds.

A GTX580 isn't going to change much seeing how CPU dependent RTS and strategy games are. What you can do to improve ingame performance is by turning off some useless settings like animated unit portraits, which for me was the thing that made ultra unplayable to playable.


It does come with HT as a feature ( can be disabled to run the cpu cooler and allow you to OC a tiny bit more if not )...the

i7(nehalem ones) at 2.66 is equal to the phenom ii at 3.25 as for instructions per clock

that video card should draw less power than the 480 due to optimization

yeah, sc2 is mostly cpu

the turbo function can be turned off in bios
power saving features will slow the comp down (found in bios press F8 or whatever that brings up a blue screen at start)
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 17:03:29
January 28 2011 16:07 GMT
#32
Yes, Intel is far better clock for clock but the main reason why CPU game benchmarks are so lopsided is mainly because the turbo boost function. The quad core Phenoms don't have any form of turbo boosting and the Thubans offer a much more prehistoric version of the idea.

Power saving features should be largely irrelevant to computer performance and I doubt his PSU is inadequate. This isn't AMD having trouble with Cool n Quiet, we're talking about today's Intel and a guy who bought a ROG motherboard. For such high quality settings, I'm not surprised he's "only" getting this performance and I don't see how everyone has come to the conclusion that his computer is severely underperforming - it isn't and if you think it is, it has less to do with his computer and more to do with Starcraft 2 itself:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/37789-nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-review-16.html
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19934/11

This is with a i7 920 at 4ghz and a i7 965, respectively, mind you.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20

This is with Anandtech turning the settings to pretty much the bare minimum (1024 x 768 at medium quality settings) to test the Sandy Bridge processors in a 3v3 battle. The max these got were around 60, and these processors are as fast as the i7 980x in single threaded tasks.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 16:53:05
January 28 2011 16:18 GMT
#33
but we don't know if he turned those functions off... or kept them on... ( it made my older comp load like 3-4x longer for wc3 )

The FPS seems about right based on what he's telling us if he's really running the game at maximum... ( from those two pictures you linked... )

unless he tells us he's running at 1920x1080 ( takes only half the processing power compared to 2560x1600 )
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purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
January 28 2011 17:56 GMT
#34
you guys keep referencing othre processors and other tests and blah blah. All of those computers had more than a 600w PSU. He needs to be at 800. I don't know how the hell he thought he could get by on 600w PSU.

Just because it turns on doesn't mean its at peak performance.
Basic
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada288 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 18:14:57
January 28 2011 18:06 GMT
#35
You do not list your compuer peripherals but I am assuming you have a few. Given how powerful your computer is it is likely,as someone else has mentioned that computer is in fact underpowered. My computer is about 2/3 the specs of yours, minus a hard drive and I recently upped from a 500W to a 1000W power supply in order to actually get performace it is capable of. The power was less an issue of my direct computer use and more on the peripherals I was using. I use a DAC, HD webcam and external hard drive which all taxing on the powersupply if drawing power from the computer instead of an independent plug. I had a few obvious signs of under powering mind you, including BSoD when pluging in a HD web cam as it instanly drew more current than the power supply could handle after upgraded to a higher grade RAM. If you are literally using almost all of your USB ports, and all these devices draw power from your computer you may be having the same issue I did.

My suggestion would be trying to get your hands on a better power supply. Ebay will get you one for around $100 if you are looking in the right places.

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 28 2011 18:06 GMT
#36
On January 29 2011 02:56 purecarnagge wrote:
you guys keep referencing othre processors and other tests and blah blah. All of those computers had more than a 600w PSU. He needs to be at 800. I don't know how the hell he thought he could get by on 600w PSU.

Just because it turns on doesn't mean its at peak performance.


You shouldn't be giving tech advice if you think a corsair 600w can't run a single GTX 580 and a 1366. You think these two components pull 300 each or something? Cause let me tell you, they don't...
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
January 28 2011 18:41 GMT
#37
I am going to saw it could be a couple things.
PSU is a bit on the weak side, but probably only 10% chance of being a problem.
If you're not overheating then...
It is because this game is designed to only utilize 2 cores at a time.
In reality it only uses one mainly.
So, no matter how much shit we all shove into a case it won't greatly improve your performance.

eight.BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 19:20:46
January 28 2011 19:07 GMT
#38
I don't know if I'm reading this chart right or not.
From:http://www.anandtech.com/show/4012/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580-the-sli-update
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Which would mean the GTX580 would be too much for a 600w?
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
January 28 2011 19:15 GMT
#39
The GTX580 is represented by the orange bar. Their test system is a i7 920 @3.3Ghz.
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eight.BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States240 Posts
January 28 2011 19:19 GMT
#40
On January 29 2011 04:15 mav451 wrote:
The GTX580 is represented by the orange bar. Their test system is a i7 920 @3.3Ghz.

Ah, I was looking at the bottom GTX580SLI. Oops.
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