EPT[Show] Inside The Game - Official Thread - Page 185
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Dawski
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DirtyCash
Canada189 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Dawski
Canada435 Posts
On February 29 2012 11:40 DirtyCash wrote: wheat was ranting about it again 2mins ago. He just cant let go ..... because its the hardest part of their job and they are real people. do you honestly not understand that? | ||
HaN-
France1920 Posts
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Garth
United States353 Posts
On February 29 2012 11:42 Dawski wrote: ..... because its the hardest part of their job and they are real people. do you honestly not understand that? You're full of shit . User was warned for this post | ||
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dubRa
2165 Posts
On February 29 2012 11:26 Odawg27 wrote: Well I'll say one thing about this... I tuned in for the first time to listen to what I believe is the equivelant to radio sports talk, meaning opinions, discussions, disagreements, jokes, etc... but not what happened. Regardless of the way the caller presented himself (at least a little passive agressive with his 9-12 place finish), he had a valid question. Now what they could have done is let him finish/make a fool of himself if they think his point is so stupid, and then respond (without running him into the ground) with a "No DeMuslim beat Nestea, he made it higher than expected beating people no one really thought he would. So yes we should be celebrating how well he did blah blah blah." Instead we get a childish rant from the host of the show in a totally unprofessional manner. I had a lot of respect for djWHEAT but now I don't know. If e-sports is really to become a professional sport and this is our representation. Just as the caller had to know he could get told he was wrong having an open call by djWHEAT is also asking for trolls and questions you're not going to like or want to hear. This has been disappointing to watch as a huge fan of e-sports. What made you respect djWHEAT before? Was he always appropriate or is he a type of guy who speaks from heart? djWheat was always like this. I follow his stuff since forever and he was not disappointing for me in today's show. | ||
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GatorGar
Somalia77 Posts
Rapture next time instead of starting with "Glory Rapture Rapture Rapture we shall all be saved" *oh what wait* "Can you hear me?" "Oh ok, we just spent a HUGE amount of the show talking about deMuslim and what did you place? What, 9th?" Try: "Hey deMuslim nice work at Winter Arena, but aren't we a little too happy over a 9 place finish? Are we getting too complacent with mediocre results?" And Wheat won't kick you off the damn show. Wheat is a passionate man. I've seen him on the verge of tears before when he was talking about the early tournament days of Brood War, when they were happy to have a $25 prize pool. Now it's at $25,000. He doesn't take any bullshit when it comes to SC2 in general. | ||
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Odawg27
United States191 Posts
On February 29 2012 11:58 dubRa wrote: What made you respect djWHEAT before? Was he always appropriate or is he a type of guy who speaks from heart? djWheat was always like this. I follow his stuff since forever and he was not disappointing for me in today's show. I thought he was a good representation of the community. He CARED about playing games and what they were doing. The problem with what he did tonight is he went off on a caller. You don't do that on what is supposed to be a professional show for any sport including e-sports. You can disagree, defend your guests but you don't just scream, yell and curse at someone because you thought he was being a jerk to you and your guest. You cut him off, tell him to get to the point, say well thanks but that's not right because. You have to be the bigger man because it's your show and you're putting yourself out there. It's unfair and it sucks that people can be condescending jerks on your show but that's going to happen. My respect for him would've skyrocketed if he had calmly (or even slightly emotionally) called the dude out and said that's not right, you have a question ask it politely or not at all. Then explained why they were celebrating DeMuslim because he went further than he was supposed to taking out star Koreans and of course he was on the show. You can speak from your heart and be emotional about what you do and not be childish. I realize it's tough to constantly be under the microscope but that's a part of the job. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On February 29 2012 11:42 Dawski wrote: ..... because its the hardest part of their job and they are real people. do you honestly not understand that? i'm not saying i disagree with you here, nor am i calling anyone down for anything but i feel like this reallllllly needs to be said, and listened to by everyone in the scene: do you want to be "real people" or do you want to be professionals that are taken seriously? you can't have both. the vast majority of people will be completely and utterly turned off by being a "real person". SC and Esports in general is a niche thing, so a lot of times you'll get away with it. but that leaves you with two options: either it stays niche (and by niche i mean tiny) or the people who can't hold back their "realism" are gonna get left behind. it sucks that the world demands PC and positive, but it does. my $0.02 | ||
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SkimGuy
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ApoNow
Luxembourg100 Posts
Even before r4pture could finish his concern, Wheat went into aggressive mode by asking "where did you place then?" (he even immediately noticed the childishness of his behaviour, that's why he followed it up by "nevermind"). If he would be raging that hard (I mean he was yelling like a madman, come on...) about a very offensive or aggressive question, I'd be ok with it. In this case, it wasn't even clear whether r4pture had an offensive motive in mind. In fact, his concern was a very legitimate one and I would even share his view. If the foreigner scene aims to be considered on par with the korean one, a 9-12th place finish is not a great run. It might have been a great run for DeMuslim's himself and the expectations we had. It might have been great that he defeated some of the best (korean) players. It might have been a great run for a foreigner. But in a global perspective, where koreans and foreigners are treated and viewed in the same light, it has not been a great run, merely a good one. r4pture's not the one who should be apologizing. If there was a need for an apology (which I don't think there is), it should be coming from Wheat. To Wheat: Rage when there's a legitimate reason to do so, otherwise it comes off as childish behaviour and I usually consider you as one of the most mature, reasonable and passionate members of our beloved community. But still, we are human and as such are prone to making mistakes. This was (a minor) one on your behalf. Altogether you're still one of the greatest assets to esports. <3 | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
http://db.tt/54FXsAdy Dropbox http://snd.sc/wZ8TTf Soundcloud http://db.tt/MfULJred Torrent Dropbox and Soundcloud both have download limits, so if you can't get them try the torrent. | ||
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
On February 29 2012 11:26 r4pture wrote: Guys, all I want to do is public apologize. Thats all. I never meant for this to happen and I NEVER meant ot insult anyone. I came off wrong because I was nervous, and even while being attacked by some, I'd still like to apologize. Chill, i wouldn´t take it personal, seems like Wheat didn´t had the best day and you just appeared as an anonymous internet-troll, even though you may have had a valid question but couldn´t get it out the right way. May i suggest a new signature for ya? Raped by DJWheat  | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On February 29 2012 11:26 Odawg27 wrote: Well I'll say one thing about this... I tuned in for the first time to listen to what I believe is the equivelant to radio sports talk, meaning opinions, discussions, disagreements, jokes, etc... but not what happened. Regardless of the way the caller presented himself (at least a little passive agressive with his 9-12 place finish), he had a valid question. Now what they could have done is let him finish/make a fool of himself if they think his point is so stupid, and then respond (without running him into the ground) with a "No DeMuslim beat Nestea, he made it higher than expected beating people no one really thought he would. So yes we should be celebrating how well he did blah blah blah." Instead we get a childish rant from the host of the show in a totally unprofessional manner. I had a lot of respect for djWHEAT but now I don't know. If e-sports is really to become a professional sport and this is our representation. Just as the caller had to know he could get told he was wrong having an open call by djWHEAT is also asking for trolls and questions you're not going to like or want to hear. This has been disappointing to watch as a huge fan of e-sports. Given this representation competitive gaming (e-sports......) is a lot further away from worldwide exposure than people think. | ||
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statikg
Canada930 Posts
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Vinck
England20 Posts
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xrayEU
Sweden571 Posts
On February 29 2012 12:26 Hashbaz wrote: Episode 32 mp3 is up: http://db.tt/54FXsAdy Dropbox http://snd.sc/wZ8TTf Soundcloud http://db.tt/MfULJred Torrent Dropbox and Soundcloud both have download limits, so if you can't get them try the torrent. Thank you sir! | ||
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SnowSC2
United States678 Posts
On February 29 2012 12:26 Hashbaz wrote: Episode 32 mp3 is up: http://db.tt/54FXsAdy Dropbox http://snd.sc/wZ8TTf Soundcloud http://db.tt/MfULJred Torrent Dropbox and Soundcloud both have download limits, so if you can't get them try the torrent. Oh the sweet sweet love i would make to you had i known you, dear kind lovely man. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
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