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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 29 2012 02:21 GMT
#3661
On February 29 2012 11:20 Garth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 11:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:16 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:13 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:11 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:09 Garth wrote:
LOL, you guys act like wheat is rapture's dad and is morally superior. Obviously it was a touchy question and he has a valid point, every tournament foreigners get raped and he just wanted to know if they thought that we are too content with bad results.

We compare ourselves to koreans and say oh we're not that far behind and lose EVERY tournament to them and celebrate it.

You can't do that in a non aggressive way, and the passiveness was due to him trying to make the question less harmful, quit acting like r4pture was trying to start a fight and GROW SOME BALLS.

you can ask that question without even addressing demuslim, but he chose to inappropriately point out demuslim's 9-12 place finish to express his point.



It was a prime example due to his presence on the show, they were too touchy and obviously r4pture had honest intentions trying to congratulate demuslim at the same time, to be raged at like that without even finishing while ALL FOUR members of the cast where ignorant to his points is bullshit.

well, he was a guest on the show. normally when i am a guest in someone's house, i don't take the opportunity to take a shit on their sofa.


So? Where else can you make an opinion public here. Certainly not on the forums, you will either be banned or nobody will see it.

if you get banned or nobody sees your thread/post, maybe it wasn't a good opinion in the first place.


No my entire point is the community has grown soft and can't take self-criticism, this is the problem in r4pture's case, they ban/warn here for calling a player bad, even if they are.

That logic is also retarded, numerous times people have been punished for VERY noble deeds. Martin Luther King Jr., for example was jailed several times for his opinion.

r4pture, the internet's MLK. lol.
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
February 29 2012 02:22 GMT
#3662
On February 29 2012 11:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 11:16 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:13 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:11 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:09 Garth wrote:
LOL, you guys act like wheat is rapture's dad and is morally superior. Obviously it was a touchy question and he has a valid point, every tournament foreigners get raped and he just wanted to know if they thought that we are too content with bad results.

We compare ourselves to koreans and say oh we're not that far behind and lose EVERY tournament to them and celebrate it.

You can't do that in a non aggressive way, and the passiveness was due to him trying to make the question less harmful, quit acting like r4pture was trying to start a fight and GROW SOME BALLS.

you can ask that question without even addressing demuslim, but he chose to inappropriately point out demuslim's 9-12 place finish to express his point.



It was a prime example due to his presence on the show, they were too touchy and obviously r4pture had honest intentions trying to congratulate demuslim at the same time, to be raged at like that without even finishing while ALL FOUR members of the cast where ignorant to his points is bullshit.

well, he was a guest on the show. normally when i am a guest in someone's house, i don't take the opportunity to take a shit on their sofa.


So? Where else can you make an opinion public here. Certainly not on the forums, you will either be banned or nobody will see it.

if you get banned or nobody sees your thread/post, maybe it wasn't a good opinion in the first place.

I don't even..
Garth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States353 Posts
February 29 2012 02:23 GMT
#3663
On February 29 2012 11:21 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 11:20 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:16 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:13 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:11 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:09 Garth wrote:
LOL, you guys act like wheat is rapture's dad and is morally superior. Obviously it was a touchy question and he has a valid point, every tournament foreigners get raped and he just wanted to know if they thought that we are too content with bad results.

We compare ourselves to koreans and say oh we're not that far behind and lose EVERY tournament to them and celebrate it.

You can't do that in a non aggressive way, and the passiveness was due to him trying to make the question less harmful, quit acting like r4pture was trying to start a fight and GROW SOME BALLS.

you can ask that question without even addressing demuslim, but he chose to inappropriately point out demuslim's 9-12 place finish to express his point.



It was a prime example due to his presence on the show, they were too touchy and obviously r4pture had honest intentions trying to congratulate demuslim at the same time, to be raged at like that without even finishing while ALL FOUR members of the cast where ignorant to his points is bullshit.

well, he was a guest on the show. normally when i am a guest in someone's house, i don't take the opportunity to take a shit on their sofa.


So? Where else can you make an opinion public here. Certainly not on the forums, you will either be banned or nobody will see it.

if you get banned or nobody sees your thread/post, maybe it wasn't a good opinion in the first place.


No my entire point is the community has grown soft and can't take self-criticism, this is the problem in r4pture's case, they ban/warn here for calling a player bad, even if they are.

That logic is also retarded, numerous times people have been punished for VERY noble deeds. Martin Luther King Jr., for example was jailed several times for his opinion.

r4pture, the internet's MLK. lol.


Really? I used that example to say that the community punishes people even if they are not necessarily in the wrong, the MLK example wasn't even directly related to r4pture.
Garth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States353 Posts
February 29 2012 02:23 GMT
#3664
On February 29 2012 11:21 neurosx wrote:
Show nested quote +
So? Where else can you make an opinion public here. Certainly not on the forums, you will either be banned or nobody will see it.


So to make a point you're forced to sound like a dick ? If anything that makes people not take your ideas in consideration so yeah.


Obviously, and I'm saying that's wrong, a kick in the ass is needed sometimes.
r4pture
Profile Joined May 2011
United States397 Posts
February 29 2012 02:23 GMT
#3665
On February 29 2012 11:21 dAPhREAk wrote:
r4pture, the internet's MLK. lol.


...Flattering, but a biiiiit much.
http://teamfortress.tv - For your TF2 streaming and discussion needs!
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
February 29 2012 02:23 GMT
#3666
On February 29 2012 11:21 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 11:20 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:16 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:13 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:11 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:09 Garth wrote:
LOL, you guys act like wheat is rapture's dad and is morally superior. Obviously it was a touchy question and he has a valid point, every tournament foreigners get raped and he just wanted to know if they thought that we are too content with bad results.

We compare ourselves to koreans and say oh we're not that far behind and lose EVERY tournament to them and celebrate it.

You can't do that in a non aggressive way, and the passiveness was due to him trying to make the question less harmful, quit acting like r4pture was trying to start a fight and GROW SOME BALLS.

you can ask that question without even addressing demuslim, but he chose to inappropriately point out demuslim's 9-12 place finish to express his point.



It was a prime example due to his presence on the show, they were too touchy and obviously r4pture had honest intentions trying to congratulate demuslim at the same time, to be raged at like that without even finishing while ALL FOUR members of the cast where ignorant to his points is bullshit.

well, he was a guest on the show. normally when i am a guest in someone's house, i don't take the opportunity to take a shit on their sofa.


So? Where else can you make an opinion public here. Certainly not on the forums, you will either be banned or nobody will see it.

if you get banned or nobody sees your thread/post, maybe it wasn't a good opinion in the first place.


No my entire point is the community has grown soft and can't take self-criticism, this is the problem in r4pture's case, they ban/warn here for calling a player bad, even if they are.

That logic is also retarded, numerous times people have been punished for VERY noble deeds. Martin Luther King Jr., for example was jailed several times for his opinion.

r4pture, the internet's MLK. lol.


And you're the angry crowd in this comparison. Think about that for a second.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 29 2012 02:24 GMT
#3667
On February 29 2012 11:23 Dalavita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 11:21 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:20 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:16 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:13 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:11 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:09 Garth wrote:
LOL, you guys act like wheat is rapture's dad and is morally superior. Obviously it was a touchy question and he has a valid point, every tournament foreigners get raped and he just wanted to know if they thought that we are too content with bad results.

We compare ourselves to koreans and say oh we're not that far behind and lose EVERY tournament to them and celebrate it.

You can't do that in a non aggressive way, and the passiveness was due to him trying to make the question less harmful, quit acting like r4pture was trying to start a fight and GROW SOME BALLS.

you can ask that question without even addressing demuslim, but he chose to inappropriately point out demuslim's 9-12 place finish to express his point.



It was a prime example due to his presence on the show, they were too touchy and obviously r4pture had honest intentions trying to congratulate demuslim at the same time, to be raged at like that without even finishing while ALL FOUR members of the cast where ignorant to his points is bullshit.

well, he was a guest on the show. normally when i am a guest in someone's house, i don't take the opportunity to take a shit on their sofa.


So? Where else can you make an opinion public here. Certainly not on the forums, you will either be banned or nobody will see it.

if you get banned or nobody sees your thread/post, maybe it wasn't a good opinion in the first place.


No my entire point is the community has grown soft and can't take self-criticism, this is the problem in r4pture's case, they ban/warn here for calling a player bad, even if they are.

That logic is also retarded, numerous times people have been punished for VERY noble deeds. Martin Luther King Jr., for example was jailed several times for his opinion.

r4pture, the internet's MLK. lol.


And you're the angry crowd in this comparison. Think about that for a second.

the civil rights movement just turned in its grave.
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
February 29 2012 02:25 GMT
#3668
On February 29 2012 11:24 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 11:23 Dalavita wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:21 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:20 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:16 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:13 Garth wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:11 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:09 Garth wrote:
LOL, you guys act like wheat is rapture's dad and is morally superior. Obviously it was a touchy question and he has a valid point, every tournament foreigners get raped and he just wanted to know if they thought that we are too content with bad results.

We compare ourselves to koreans and say oh we're not that far behind and lose EVERY tournament to them and celebrate it.

You can't do that in a non aggressive way, and the passiveness was due to him trying to make the question less harmful, quit acting like r4pture was trying to start a fight and GROW SOME BALLS.

you can ask that question without even addressing demuslim, but he chose to inappropriately point out demuslim's 9-12 place finish to express his point.



It was a prime example due to his presence on the show, they were too touchy and obviously r4pture had honest intentions trying to congratulate demuslim at the same time, to be raged at like that without even finishing while ALL FOUR members of the cast where ignorant to his points is bullshit.

well, he was a guest on the show. normally when i am a guest in someone's house, i don't take the opportunity to take a shit on their sofa.


So? Where else can you make an opinion public here. Certainly not on the forums, you will either be banned or nobody will see it.

if you get banned or nobody sees your thread/post, maybe it wasn't a good opinion in the first place.


No my entire point is the community has grown soft and can't take self-criticism, this is the problem in r4pture's case, they ban/warn here for calling a player bad, even if they are.

That logic is also retarded, numerous times people have been punished for VERY noble deeds. Martin Luther King Jr., for example was jailed several times for his opinion.

r4pture, the internet's MLK. lol.


And you're the angry crowd in this comparison. Think about that for a second.

the civil rights movement just turned in its grave.


The thought process didn't even begin did it?
r4pture
Profile Joined May 2011
United States397 Posts
February 29 2012 02:26 GMT
#3669
Guys, all I want to do is public apologize. Thats all. I never meant for this to happen and I NEVER meant ot insult anyone. I came off wrong because I was nervous, and even while being attacked by some, I'd still like to apologize.
http://teamfortress.tv - For your TF2 streaming and discussion needs!
Odawg27
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
February 29 2012 02:26 GMT
#3670
Well I'll say one thing about this... I tuned in for the first time to listen to what I believe is the equivelant to radio sports talk, meaning opinions, discussions, disagreements, jokes, etc... but not what happened. Regardless of the way the caller presented himself (at least a little passive agressive with his 9-12 place finish), he had a valid question. Now what they could have done is let him finish/make a fool of himself if they think his point is so stupid, and then respond (without running him into the ground) with a "No DeMuslim beat Nestea, he made it higher than expected beating people no one really thought he would. So yes we should be celebrating how well he did blah blah blah." Instead we get a childish rant from the host of the show in a totally unprofessional manner. I had a lot of respect for djWHEAT but now I don't know. If e-sports is really to become a professional sport and this is our representation. Just as the caller had to know he could get told he was wrong having an open call by djWHEAT is also asking for trolls and questions you're not going to like or want to hear. This has been disappointing to watch as a huge fan of e-sports.
And then.... Trumpets
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
February 29 2012 02:27 GMT
#3671
On February 29 2012 11:26 r4pture wrote:
Guys, all I want to do is public apologize. Thats all. I never meant for this to happen and I NEVER meant ot insult anyone. I came off wrong because I was nervous, and even while being attacked by some, I'd still like to apologize.


Calm down. No one even cares. The internet is serious business. It's going to be forgotten in 15 minutes.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 29 2012 02:28 GMT
#3672
On February 29 2012 11:26 Odawg27 wrote:
Well I'll say one thing about this... I tuned in for the first time to listen to what I believe is the equivelant to radio sports talk, meaning opinions, discussions, disagreements, jokes, etc... but not what happened. Regardless of the way the caller presented himself (at least a little passive agressive with his 9-12 place finish), he had a valid question. Now what they could have done is let him finish/make a fool of himself if they think his point is so stupid, and then respond (without running him into the ground) with a "No DeMuslim beat Nestea, he made it higher than expected beating people no one really thought he would. So yes we should be celebrating how well he did blah blah blah." Instead we get a childish rant from the host of the show in a totally unprofessional manner. I had a lot of respect for djWHEAT but now I don't know. If e-sports is really to become a professional sport and this is our representation. Just as the caller had to know he could get told he was wrong having an open call by djWHEAT is also asking for trolls and questions you're not going to like or want to hear. This has been disappointing to watch as a huge fan of e-sports.

Totaly agree.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
February 29 2012 02:30 GMT
#3673
At this rate there's no way we are getting a Code S finals preview. Disappointing.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
February 29 2012 02:32 GMT
#3674
Best episode ever. Loving the wheat!
월요 날 재미있
Holdinga
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria300 Posts
February 29 2012 02:33 GMT
#3675
On February 29 2012 11:26 r4pture wrote:
Guys, all I want to do is public apologize. Thats all. I never meant for this to happen and I NEVER meant ot insult anyone. I came off wrong because I was nervous, and even while being attacked by some, I'd still like to apologize.


If you apologize, then they should apologize, too. Even though you may have been a little passive-aggressive, you had an ABSOLUTELY valid question that they did not answer at all and if they were 100% professional hosts they would have found a way to answer your question even if you wanted to insult someone (Not saying you did). Well it is not a perfect world and they are not perfect TV hosts. And we all like them. However, they still should apologize to you. (Wheat in particular)
djWHEAT
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States925 Posts
February 29 2012 02:35 GMT
#3676
On February 29 2012 11:30 JJH777 wrote:
At this rate there's no way we are getting a Code S finals preview. Disappointing.


Tomorrow on LO3

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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
February 29 2012 02:35 GMT
#3677
On February 29 2012 11:33 Holdinga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 11:26 r4pture wrote:
Guys, all I want to do is public apologize. Thats all. I never meant for this to happen and I NEVER meant ot insult anyone. I came off wrong because I was nervous, and even while being attacked by some, I'd still like to apologize.


If you apologize, then they should apologize, too. Even though you may have been a little passive-aggressive, you had an ABSOLUTELY valid question that they did not answer at all and if they were 100% professional hosts they would have found a way to answer your question even if you wanted to insult someone (Not saying you did). Well it is not a perfect world and they are not perfect TV hosts. And we all like them. However, they still should apologize to you. (Wheat in particular)


They did answer it lol. Analogy of michael phelps?
월요 날 재미있
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 29 2012 02:36 GMT
#3678
Great show tonight! Thanks guys!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
DirtyCash
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 11:38:44
February 29 2012 02:37 GMT
#3679
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EnderSword
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada669 Posts
February 29 2012 02:37 GMT
#3680
On February 29 2012 11:26 r4pture wrote:
Guys, all I want to do is public apologize. Thats all. I never meant for this to happen and I NEVER meant ot insult anyone. I came off wrong because I was nervous, and even while being attacked by some, I'd still like to apologize.


Given that you're some random dude and no one know who the fuck you are, you had a little moment where you were stupid in public...probably the best thing for you to do is shut up, say nothing and go back to just not being anyone.

Nothing too much at stake, the headline should just be 'Wheat has fun rant moment, idiot fades into the night never to be heard from again'
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