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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
February 29 2012 16:17 GMT
#3721
Scary rant from wheat... but super funny :p
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
Gooner
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden10 Posts
February 29 2012 16:32 GMT
#3722
Hey guys, is there any way to be able to listen to, or watch the part where Dj Wheat raged again?? I need to see it one more time, it was totally worth staying up until 4am to watch that ^^
Rybaia
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy213 Posts
February 29 2012 16:41 GMT
#3723
On March 01 2012 01:07 PrimeTimey wrote:
Never knew a grown-man with his kid playing mindcraft in the background could go on a little tantrum like a four year old. Neat.

Yeah people should always be perfect, super professional and never get caught by stress or emotions... Oh wait.
Get real.
foxmulder_ms
Profile Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 16:48:17
February 29 2012 16:42 GMT
#3724
Before "that" call, I was exactly thinking the same thing with the caller. I was thinking "man this guy (Demuslim) is not even in top 8 and they dedicated half of the program to him". By the way he is not a special guest because of his success or anything, he used to be on this program couple of times so he is a filler for Idra. They were much more worthy stories which they didnt talked or talked like 2 minutes.

Biggest story was of course King getting the GOLD, they spent maybe 1/5th of the time they spent on Demuslum.
DRG demolishing everyone even though he arrived to NYC same day with the tournament.
Huk was 3rd.
Idra was being Idra.
Artosis/Tasteless reaction to King's win.
Naniva beating Nestea again.

They talked about some of this stuff for 20 seconds and some of them even didnt mentioned. Demuslim got half of the show.

This was like talking about an NBA team that couldn't reach playoffs but beaten Lakers during the regular season.

Ok, guy was kind of a jerk when he asked demuslim about his finish but apart from that I have seen nothing wrong in his language or question.

Wheat's reaction was shocking to me. Unnecessary, extreme. If a predominant sc2 person does this much BM, community will go over the roof . I felt like Wheat choose to do smt this extreme just not to answer the question.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 29 2012 16:45 GMT
#3725
Can someone explain what happened? I can't watch the vod in school, something with demuslim?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 29 2012 16:53 GMT
#3726
On March 01 2012 01:42 foxmulder_ms wrote:
Before "that" call, I was exactly thinking the same thing with the caller. I was thinking "man this guy (Demuslim) is not even in top 8 and they dedicated half of the program to him". By the way he is not a special guest because of his success or anything, he used to be on this program couple of times so he is a filler for Idra. They were much more worthy stories which they didnt talked or talked like 2 minutes.

Biggest story was of course King getting the GOLD, they spent maybe 1/5th of the time they spent on Demuslum.
DRG demolishing everyone even though he arrived to NYC same day with the tournament.
Huk was 3rd.
Idra was being Idra.
Artosis/Tasteless reaction to King's win.
Naniva beating Nestea again.

They talked about some of this stuff for 20 seconds and some of them even didnt mentioned. Demuslim got half of the show.

This was like talking about an NBA team that couldn't reach playoffs but beaten Lakers during the regular season.

Ok, guy was kind of a jerk when he asked demuslim about his finish but apart from that I have seen nothing wrong in his language or question.

Wheat's reaction was shocking to me. Unnecessary, extreme. If a predominant sc2 person does this much BM, community will go over the roof . I felt like Wheat choose to do smt this extreme just not to answer the question.


Guys, read this post.. this is what we have to deal with on a regular basis.

He lists shit we spent a LOT of time talking about, as if we didn't mention it or spent 20 seconds. I personally made a huge issue out of half the things he said lol

Anyone/everyone can post on the internet. Why is it those who should have the least to say typically say the most and with the most conviction? sigh

A LOT of you need to calm down. It's funny watching people get upset at wheat for being passionate and then going overboard with their complaints making them "just as bad."
Shameless
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands349 Posts
February 29 2012 17:03 GMT
#3727
Fell asleep during the show so i missed this, still love you though Wheat
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Liquid'HuK "That's Halo, don't worry"
smash1
Profile Joined January 2012
60 Posts
February 29 2012 17:05 GMT
#3728
yo where can i find the vod of the rage? I cant find it
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
February 29 2012 17:09 GMT
#3729
Haha epic gif :D Yeah Incontrol there was nothing wrong with that emotion and passion it was the bitching and patronizing after that. I'm sure you read my post on last page and even you agree. Life lessons learned lol
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 18:27:21
February 29 2012 17:11 GMT
#3730
I just watched the part of ITG where this 'drama' happened and am (as usual) disappointed at how much this got blown out of proportion.

Wheat may have reacted a bit too fast and then vented a little too much, maybe not perfect but I don't think it is as bad as it is described here.

I feel the community is much too eager to have drama and overreacts to a lot of things that happen. Basically the community is just doing what they accuse Wheat of doing, in my opinion.

Edit: P.S.: Damn.. would have loved to hear the IdrA answer to the Goldlust question. tt
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 17:27:04
February 29 2012 17:26 GMT
#3731
Basically the community is just doing what they accuse Wheat of doing, in my opinion.


Throwing an epic tantrum on a popular news show? Newscasters and commentators get fired for things like that in real sports. And that's not me trying to be sensationalist or overreacting or anything, it's just straight up true.

I know it's his show, but people always love to draw parallels to real sports, so the context is there.
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 17:54:46
February 29 2012 17:53 GMT
#3732
On March 01 2012 02:26 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
Basically the community is just doing what they accuse Wheat of doing, in my opinion.


Throwing an epic tantrum on a popular news show? Newscasters and commentators get fired for things like that in real sports. And that's not me trying to be sensationalist or overreacting or anything, it's just straight up true.

I know it's his show, but people always love to draw parallels to real sports, so the context is there.

I didn't know that ITG was on national TV...nice...

How you can compare this situation to a TV news show is beyond me. That's now even apples and oranges anymore. That's apple and the crystal ball in the phantom menace
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
February 29 2012 18:02 GMT
#3733
On March 01 2012 02:53 Hardigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 02:26 nvs. wrote:
Basically the community is just doing what they accuse Wheat of doing, in my opinion.


Throwing an epic tantrum on a popular news show? Newscasters and commentators get fired for things like that in real sports. And that's not me trying to be sensationalist or overreacting or anything, it's just straight up true.

I know it's his show, but people always love to draw parallels to real sports, so the context is there.

I didn't know that ITG was on national TV...nice...

How you can compare this situation to a TV news show is beyond me. That's now even apples and oranges anymore. That's apple and the crystal ball in the phantom menace


It's not a comparison NOW, I'm talking about the furthering of the idealistic "competitive gaming IS e-sports" mantra a lot of people love to push. Obviously Wheat's show isn't on national TV, but I have heard him and other people say their goal is to make that happen, and honestly this isn't the way. If we want to be a group of competitive gamers who bullshit around and give each other a hard time (which I think we are), then that's absolutely fine and what Wheat did is no big deal at all. But if people want to continue this idea of gaming as a sport watched by millions and not thousands of people then yes, there IS a comparison to be made if SC2 and other games will ever be shown on ESPN like some people hope to see one day.

At this rate SC2's best hope is to show up on ESPN 8 The Ocho while Ben Stiller and Vince Vaughn throw rubber balls at each other and a pirate with an identity crisis cheers them on.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
February 29 2012 18:38 GMT
#3734
On March 01 2012 02:26 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
Basically the community is just doing what they accuse Wheat of doing, in my opinion.


Throwing an epic tantrum on a popular news show? Newscasters and commentators get fired for things like that in real sports. And that's not me trying to be sensationalist or overreacting or anything, it's just straight up true.

I know it's his show, but people always love to draw parallels to real sports, so the context is there.


Lots of shows on ESPN and other networks have personalities that throw on-air tantrums and generally have boisterous and loud personalities. It's entertaining, and it's part of the show's pull. Part of what makes djWHEAT awesome is his rants.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
February 29 2012 18:42 GMT
#3735
On March 01 2012 03:38 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 02:26 nvs. wrote:
Basically the community is just doing what they accuse Wheat of doing, in my opinion.


Throwing an epic tantrum on a popular news show? Newscasters and commentators get fired for things like that in real sports. And that's not me trying to be sensationalist or overreacting or anything, it's just straight up true.

I know it's his show, but people always love to draw parallels to real sports, so the context is there.


Lots of shows on ESPN and other networks have personalities that throw on-air tantrums and generally have boisterous and loud personalities. It's entertaining, and it's part of the show's pull. Part of what makes djWHEAT awesome is his rants.


Oh definitely there are guys like Jim Rome out there who blast their listeners all the time but its usually done through wit and sarcasm and not unrestrained anger.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 29 2012 18:46 GMT
#3736
nvs. proclaiming the ruin of eSports and the lack of progression because of wheat's unrestrained passion.

ok.

Or.. Wheat, the most prolific host in all of eSports (not just SC2), the guy who has created/hosted more shows that have furthered eSports and gaming in general than anyone else MIGHT have a bit of an idea of what is better for everyone... he might. I know nvs. has an illustrious tradition of bashing hosts/shows/players in all threads and that surely makes him qualified to talk about where we need to go and how to get there but I am going to go ahead and assume the dude who has been making this his life for 20 or so years knows something in the realm of 100000x more on the subject and has DONE more and WILL do more than captain hate nvs.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
February 29 2012 18:51 GMT
#3737
I thought it was kinda funny, but as usual starcraft community so uptight... guess most here are frustrated that they don't dare to play their game due to ladder fear? Sc2 community/tl cracks me up :D .
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 19:00:36
February 29 2012 18:59 GMT
#3738
On March 01 2012 03:42 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:38 corpuscle wrote:
On March 01 2012 02:26 nvs. wrote:
Basically the community is just doing what they accuse Wheat of doing, in my opinion.


Throwing an epic tantrum on a popular news show? Newscasters and commentators get fired for things like that in real sports. And that's not me trying to be sensationalist or overreacting or anything, it's just straight up true.

I know it's his show, but people always love to draw parallels to real sports, so the context is there.


Lots of shows on ESPN and other networks have personalities that throw on-air tantrums and generally have boisterous and loud personalities. It's entertaining, and it's part of the show's pull. Part of what makes djWHEAT awesome is his rants.


Oh definitely there are guys like Jim Rome out there who blast their listeners all the time but its usually done through wit and sarcasm and not unrestrained anger.


There's tons of shows with call-ins and viewer questions where the hosts shit all over the person, even outright yelling at them. People like watching idiots get called out for being idiots, it was one of my favorite segments of the show.

nvs. proclaiming the ruin of eSports and the lack of progression because of wheat's unrestrained passion.

ok.

Or.. Wheat, the most prolific host in all of eSports (not just SC2), the guy who has created/hosted more shows that have furthered eSports and gaming in general than anyone else MIGHT have a bit of an idea of what is better for everyone... he might. I know nvs. has an illustrious tradition of bashing hosts/shows/players in all threads and that surely makes him qualified to talk about where we need to go and how to get there but I am going to go ahead and assume the dude who has been making this his life for 20 or so years knows something in the realm of 100000x more on the subject and has DONE more and WILL do more than captain hate nvs.


this, too. you talk about bringing ESPORTS on national television, but maybe you've forgotten that djWHEAT is one of the few people in the community who has actually been on national television for an ESPORTS event
From the void I am born into wave and particle
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 29 2012 19:07 GMT
#3739
i go back and forth on my love/hate for wheat but god damn this community is retarded sometimes. Wheat isn't going anywhere, esports isn't going to be impacted at all because of his rant. get out.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 29 2012 19:07 GMT
#3740
On March 01 2012 03:02 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 02:53 Hardigan wrote:
On March 01 2012 02:26 nvs. wrote:
Basically the community is just doing what they accuse Wheat of doing, in my opinion.


Throwing an epic tantrum on a popular news show? Newscasters and commentators get fired for things like that in real sports. And that's not me trying to be sensationalist or overreacting or anything, it's just straight up true.

I know it's his show, but people always love to draw parallels to real sports, so the context is there.

I didn't know that ITG was on national TV...nice...

How you can compare this situation to a TV news show is beyond me. That's now even apples and oranges anymore. That's apple and the crystal ball in the phantom menace


It's not a comparison NOW, I'm talking about the furthering of the idealistic "competitive gaming IS e-sports" mantra a lot of people love to push. Obviously Wheat's show isn't on national TV, but I have heard him and other people say their goal is to make that happen, and honestly this isn't the way. If we want to be a group of competitive gamers who bullshit around and give each other a hard time (which I think we are), then that's absolutely fine and what Wheat did is no big deal at all. But if people want to continue this idea of gaming as a sport watched by millions and not thousands of people then yes, there IS a comparison to be made if SC2 and other games will ever be shown on ESPN like some people hope to see one day.

At this rate SC2's best hope is to show up on ESPN 8 The Ocho while Ben Stiller and Vince Vaughn throw rubber balls at each other and a pirate with an identity crisis cheers them on.

i dread the day when itg and sotg are politically correct and cater to the vocal minority. if thats what it takes to make "esports" a success then i never want to see it. i want to see personality and emotion.
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