|
Didn't you guys know? Protactinium is schizophrenic. That's why he said "we".
Seriously though, for those of you wondering, I'm voting for DrH currently because I think he's full of crap. Here's how I see it:
1) An actual medic roleclaimed to him: conclusion - medic is silly in the head, unless he's pulling shenanigans and claimed to someone else to bait mafia. Why? You don't know DrH's alignment, why would you RC with nothing in the game to look at? Simply because he's a "better player"? That's ridiculous -_-.
2) A mafia player claimed to him as medic - I'll agree that it's a little silly for mafia to RC medic, unless they plan on doing something fast. It would give DrH the power to "protect" certain players from mafia hits, by saying "protect this person". If that person gets hit, then the mafia gets outted.
3) A townie/non-medic claims medic - someone thinks they're good and is fishing. Otherwise, it's retarded.
4) DrH, mafia, lying, wants to make a huge ploy to become trusted in the town/get the names of some blues. And the "he'll attract too much attention" arguments don't apply here, because any mafia willing to attract attention is confident enough that they'll be able to handle/deflect it. I think this is more likely than the other 3 options, thought 1 is close. But with nothing to go on so far, this is my vote for now.
Also, I'd like to throw in that Protactinium's first post is retarded. I'd be happy to vote for him as well.
|
Don't think Darth is mafia just beceause I disagreee with his assesment of DrH. Didn't someone post about most first day discussions being between townies?
I could be convinced to vote pandain based on his inactivity, but I would consider Node and Kenpachi as well. Both played pretty laid back mafia roles in recent games.
|
wow im fucking dumb protactiniums pm makes complete sense to me now
|
I definitely dislike how at the beginning of the game DrH basically made it first priority to get a town circle, opening the door to all sorts of mafia shenanigans and possibly giving the mafia prime targets extremely early in the game, especially if there are actually people willing to claim to him before the first day has ended. (if so, come on, people! learn to distrust a little bit more!) After Haunted Mafia I'm definitely wary of circles of any sort, as ours handed scum the game at the last minute. I am not keen to repeat those mistakes. In this game in particular I dislike the town circle concept even more, as there are two roles custom built for infiltration -- remember that Chaos Ensuant will come back townie to rolechecks.
I also don't understand why Doc even said anything about knowing a medic in the first place. It's made him a prime target for the mafia and also raises the possibility of accidentally revealing the medic some way or another. All it has really done is made him seem more "legit" as the town circle coordinator -- I don't feel that town has actually gained anything from this knowledge.
I feel that if town is interested in forming a circle (which I highly discourage for the time being), we let the detectives take initiative after some rolechecks have gone through.
|
wouldn't that be the point
how could a dt take initiative before rolechekcs go through ???
town circles immensely benefit town if done correctly. look at insane mafia where their first order of business was to shut down fishballs group and then to shut down bums group
infiltration is possible but can work out in our favor. mafia are 10x more likely to screw up in pms than in thread and annul came pretty close to losing it all quite a few times in haunted
what is your first priority for day 1 then if not discussing how pms will be utilized in the game
|
Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
OK, we're running out of time here. There's absolutely no reason that people should be able to coast through Day 1.
Voting Pandain until he posts some content, then moving down the list of people who i know should be posting more content. If Day 1 becomes about pressure votes, so be it. We can't analyse posts if there are none....
5. Scaramanga
6. Kenpachi
7. Amber[light
11. youngminii
15. deconduo
|
How many hours are left of day one?
|
Day ends in a little over 10 hours, remember to vote.
|
Will be completely wasted or asleep by the time this vote ends, voting Kenpachi. He shouldn't be able to get away with one post that sais absolutely nothing.
|
Gonna vote for Pandain for now, he should be more active so gonna pressure him.
|
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.
Look, yesterday I was shooting for my new film Suburbicon due in 2012, and was unable to post, but recently I've decided to take a holiday to some islands helping the poor, cause you know.. that's my thing.
Now I got ClooneyTime, which means I will post more often, if that explains my inactivity.
Here's a few questions is would like to ask, if it proves my activity now:
What is a blue, green red or whatever colour roles?
What is a lurker?
I'm new to this game obviously, and I'm going to assume at a boot camp stupid questions can be posted here? Or am I suppose to pm an overseer to the game?
And what the shit is a "roleclaim"
And very lastly, why do townies make circles of "trust" I thought this game is suppose to be about deception? How can there be trust if everyone is not absolutely sure what everyone else is?
|
On November 28 2010 00:24 GeorgeClooney wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy. Look, yesterday I was shooting for my new film Suburbicon due in 2012, and was unable to post, but recently I've decided to take a holiday to some islands helping the poor, cause you know.. that's my thing. Now I got ClooneyTime, which means I will post more often, if that explains my inactivity. Here's a few questions is would like to ask, if it proves my activity now: What is a blue, green red or whatever colour roles? What is a lurker? I'm new to this game obviously, and I'm going to assume at a boot camp stupid questions can be posted here? Or am I suppose to pm an overseer to the game? And what the shit is a "roleclaim" And very lastly, why do townies make circles of "trust" I thought this game is suppose to be about deception? How can there be trust if everyone is not absolutely sure what everyone else is?
*dons lecture glasses and stands in front of podium*
1) Green roles are your basic town player. They have no special ability, but they are arguably the most important role, because there are so many, and their inherent ability to vote for lynches is obviously very important. Blue roles are town players with special abilities, like the Detective (who can find out a player's alignment), Medic (can protect a player from being killed during the night), and others. Red roles are Mafia players.
2) A lurker is a player who posts very little, and simply lets the game run its course. It's generally not a good idea to lurk too much, since you're not contributing when you do so.
3) Yes, if you have any questions about how to play, ask here. If you have a question pertaining specifically to the rules of this particular Mafia game, put your question in green tags. + Show Spoiler +[green]Like this.[/green]
4) A roleclaim is when a player openly tells the rest of the players what role they are. So, when the Doc said a Medic roleclaimed to him in PM, it means that the player told the Doc that his role was that of Medic.
5) Town circles are difficult to maintain and keep pure (i.e., no Mafia infiltrating), but if one manages to form later in the game, it can be essential to coordinating town actions. Generally, players are inducted into the town circle by being checked by a Detective role (otherwise known as a DT) to confirm what role they are.
|
SECRET FRIENDSHIP ALLIANCE...ACTIVATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Couple Thoughts
1.Dr. H is hardly trying to get people to claim to him. Radfield, your accusation that he has at least insinuated that is lacking at best. As of right now though keep in mind Dr. H could still be mafia. Just because he was claimed to doesn't mean anything.
2.People be hatin' on the pandas 
3.Wtf proctat. Honestly, this doesn't seem very anti town at all(how could it get people to claim valuable roles), but its just confusing to me. The main thing I'm wondering is what benefits could it have? That's the question that should be noted.
|
A lot of people are going to try and lay traps during the first day. I'd rather just know that we're not going to lynch a mafia and vote for somebody than try and create this elaborate claim as to why we should lynch somebody. We've never been so lucky as to get a mafia lynched on Day 1, and I wouldn't expect any different. There won't even be a lot of information on who could be mafia because of the lynch. It's going to create a big opportunity for the mafia to manipulate play-style.
I'm probably going to just abstain for my Day 1 vote. No pressure, no harm 
|
On November 27 2010 17:04 DarthThienAn wrote:
Didn't you guys know? Protactinium is schizophrenic. That's why he said "we".
Seriously though, for those of you wondering, I'm voting for DrH currently because I think he's full of crap. Here's how I see it:
1) An actual medic roleclaimed to him: conclusion - medic is silly in the head, unless he's pulling shenanigans and claimed to someone else to bait mafia. Why? You don't know DrH's alignment, why would you RC with nothing in the game to look at? Simply because he's a "better player"? That's ridiculous -_-.
2) A mafia player claimed to him as medic - I'll agree that it's a little silly for mafia to RC medic, unless they plan on doing something fast. It would give DrH the power to "protect" certain players from mafia hits, by saying "protect this person". If that person gets hit, then the mafia gets outted.
3) A townie/non-medic claims medic - someone thinks they're good and is fishing. Otherwise, it's retarded.
4) DrH, mafia, lying, wants to make a huge ploy to become trusted in the town/get the names of some blues. And the "he'll attract too much attention" arguments don't apply here, because any mafia willing to attract attention is confident enough that they'll be able to handle/deflect it. I think this is more likely than the other 3 options, thought 1 is close. But with nothing to go on so far, this is my vote for now.
Also, I'd like to throw in that Protactinium's first post is retarded. I'd be happy to vote for him as well.
Considering the plays we've seen so far in this game, I would have to say that options 1 and 3 are highly possible. I feel like we're in the Maritimes with all the fishers we have: we've had TWO green claims in thread as well several PMs going around with claims which are presumably being used to gather info from newer players who may respond to them honestly. Fishing is most helpful for groups of players (i.e. Town circle or mafia) as you can have more information about a single thing to converge in your group. I feel that the most likely options here is that DrH is fishing for information regardless of role, that a new player legitimately claimed to him or someone else is fishing. Only 1 of these 4 (implied) options is mafia related and I feel that this is much too early in the game to quell this as we may actually have a town circle eventually form here (with DT checks and whatnot). I do encourage people to limit the amount of information given to DrH and ANYONE really to also limit the threat if they are actually mafia. Good? Now we need a different vote.
|
Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
OK, Pandain has posted, Scara you're next.
5. Scaramanga
6. Kenpachi
7. Amber[light
11. youngminii
15. deconduo
|
On November 28 2010 01:51 Radfield wrote:
OK, Pandain has posted, Scara you're next.
5. Scaramanga
6. Kenpachi
7. Amber[light
11. youngminii
15. deconduo
Deconduo's also posted, Rad.
|
On November 28 2010 01:54 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 01:51 Radfield wrote:
OK, Pandain has posted, Scara you're next.
5. Scaramanga
6. Kenpachi
7. Amber[light
11. youngminii
15. deconduo Deconduo's also posted, Rad.
I decided to look back through the thread to double check everyone in that list. They all at least posted once. I am glad that they used their minimum post during the day instead of the night. However, The posts for a few of them are not long enough to get a read on.
Scaramanga posted:
On November 26 2010 19:51 Scaramanga wrote:
Whats WIFOM mean?
On November 26 2010 23:14 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2010 22:26 annul wrote:On November 26 2010 17:35 flamewheel wrote:
Expelliarmus biatch PROTEGO Sectumsempra I be cuttin you witch bitch
Kenpachi posted:
On November 27 2010 09:11 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 07:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 27 2010 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:On November 27 2010 07:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
well i'm already in contact with a blue role
so i'm still thinking about how to make this work. there is really no 100% foolproof safe way and in reality you want to get mafia in on the PM circle so that you can trap them easier
the best thing is that only one person will know peoples roles and if I'm telling people about what others are saying I'll refer to them only as "the medic" "the DT" etc. Am I the only one puzzled with the fact that a medic role claimed blindly to DrH without knowing his alignment? not as puzzled as me Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
i know
why would you roleclaim to me so suddenly? i wasn't even going to ask, although I guess I can give you advice. Medic is a pretty easy role I think, just go after vets/anyone who roleclaims an important role like DT unless you're really suspicious.
it's a role i always wish i would get but I never do. I think its playstyle suits me actually.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From SOMEBODY
thats not even a role.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
cool i got dracula
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From PLAYERDUDEGUY
I got medic.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
whats up buttercup no harmful information here so feel free to analyse Yea i dont think this is trustable 100%
youngminii posted:
On November 26 2010 20:31 youngminii wrote:
wifom can be so much simpler than that
think about this statement:
i am not a witch
deconduo posted:
On November 27 2010 06:51 deconduo wrote:
Day one lynches are always tough. I agree that we should lynch a lurker, but as this is more of a learning game I think we should be looking at the more experienced players who aren't posting as much as they should be. New players are going to be quiet anyway, so we should be encouraging them rather that threatening with the big lynch stick. It would be pretty shitty to lynch a newbie day one.
On November 28 2010 00:23 deconduo wrote:
Gonna vote for Pandain for now, he should be more active so gonna pressure him.
|
you guys are doing a fucking fantastic job of splitting the fucking votes up 10 different ways so mafia can fucking waltz right the fuck in and fucking lynch whoever the fuck they want without having to worry at all about being exposed by voting patterns.
town needs to pick 1 fucking person. and actually get information from vote numbers and reactions.
.
|
On November 28 2010 04:11 Coagulation wrote:
you guys are doing a fucking fantastic job of splitting the fucking votes up 10 different ways so mafia can fucking waltz right the fuck in and fucking lynch whoever the fuck they want without having to worry at all about being exposed by voting patterns.
town needs to pick 1 fucking person. and actually get information from vote numbers and reactions.
.
I agree with this. It's getting a little late to keep using votes to pressure people; We should just decide on a person to lynch and go through with it.
Anyone have prime candidates? I don't really see anyone except lurkers.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
