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On November 28 2010 04:47 KtheZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 04:11 Coagulation wrote:
you guys are doing a fucking fantastic job of splitting the fucking votes up 10 different ways so mafia can fucking waltz right the fuck in and fucking lynch whoever the fuck they want without having to worry at all about being exposed by voting patterns.
town needs to pick 1 fucking person. and actually get information from vote numbers and reactions.
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I agree with this. It's getting a little late to keep using votes to pressure people; We should just decide on a person to lynch and go through with it. Anyone have prime candidates? I don't really see anyone except lurkers.
but the thing is, the vote is split up into us lurkers
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vote pandain
and watch mafia bandwagon get to work.
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BrownBear comes in and rallies people to contribute then votes for GC because he's inactive
while proceeding to contribute zero and be inactive himself
i expect better from an experienced player, even on day 1
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Coag is right, regardless of how expletively he says so :p.
It's time to pick a canidate. I'd rather have a 50% chance of getting the right canidate than a 1% chance if we let mafia decide since we have split the vote. With that, I am going to suggest someone who I myself am suscipcious of, that is, Annul. In short, he has been spamming or "contributing" without really contributing. The icing on the cake for me is of his pm with dr. h, which could've been a mafia slip up. Right now, I am uncertain his alignment, but more leaning with mafia. And since it's day 1, I think he's probably the best bet we have, along with Brownbear. However I am going to hold off on Brownbear since
1)We're SFA members
2) He does this sometimes, just going inactive and even getting modkilled.
But I think either of them would be good lynches.
His Posts this game:
SPAM
+ Show Spoiler +On November 26 2010 22:26 annul wrote:PROTEGO Spam On November 27 2010 13:23 annul wrote:
harry potter stuff is all you ever need, this is SALEM mafia, we are all magical people here ok
produce your wand, yo.
spam On November 27 2010 13:38 annul wrote: spam
On November 27 2010 13:44 annul wrote:
what better way to teach the game than to show them precisely what the "non-learning" games are all about?
but okay, sure. real analysis?
the only thing we need now is pandain to attempt to get people to claim to him in PMs and to start a circle and we have a standard TL mafia game. drh is already vying for day 1 leader so we are certainly off to the normal start.
thing of note is that the OP explicitly says not all roles may exist in the game. dont do analysis assuming all these roles are there, especially when trying to reverse engineer rolecounts through the guise of "well, THIS is balanced!" etc.
also if this is a "learning game" then i guess we should stick to the bread and butter playstyles and not go all out with crazy trickeries and gambits and stuff
This post was after he was called out for not contributing. Yet this post is not contributing at all by any means. Right now, what does this post say?
1.I'm doing this to teach people what NOT to do. (joke maybe)
2.We'll have a normal game if...
3.Don't analyze based on roles.
This post really doesn't say anything. The only thing it really says is "let's make this a normal game", without really giving any opinions on the current situation. Also note that he was basically forced to contribute, and this is one of those things that I call "contributing without really contributing."
On November 27 2010 13:51 annul wrote:
ps i voted for darth because a random vote on drh is pretty frowntown given the daily circumstances
Very weak reason for a lynch. Obviously darth is going to change, or at the very least it was a semi joke by darth.
On November 27 2010 14:15 annul wrote:
haunted and insane actually had a lot of content to discuss on day 1, surprisingly enough
Irrelevant sentence.
Extra Point:
This PM he had with Dr. H was suspicious. Dr. H and I discussed it here. Note that annul said coag seemed suscipcious "despite his defense of dr. h" Now, why would that make coag LESS suspicious unless he knew that Dr. H was town? I will point out here it is possible that he just felt strongly that dr. h WAS town, but this is suspicious nonetheless.
----------------------------------------- Original Message From Pandain: wow thats definitely suscipcious ----------------------------------------- Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: maybe i didnt like his response to my pm Show nested quote +Hide nested quote -
despite his defense of you, i like coagulation of this list. he has said a LOT of stuff and yet almost nothing at all at the same time.
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
pandain, coagulation, georgecloony, kitaman27, youngminii, and node
you have to pick 1 to lynch, who would it be? why does he trust me and say "despite his defense of you", why would defending me make coagulation innocent unless he knew I was town? doesnt seem like something a townie would say ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Pandain: i voted annul. I think it's pretty suscipcious how he's posting, only "contributed" after being called out on that. In addition, it seems to me he's just trying to contribute without really contributing, if you take a look at his posts its either spam or "Well..so far everything is normal." Hasn't offered any thoughts. Usually he does, so what do you think?
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brownbear is a grab bag skilled player.regardless of role.
1 day he does a good job and contributes alot
next day he shits on everything in his path.
then hes inactive for 5 days
you never know what to expect from brownbear
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the annul pm doesnt look very solid.
anyone can accept that there is no definitive way to prove someone role and just base the way they convey other players based 100% on instincts.
lynch annul i dont care but make sure everyone votes for him.
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if you guys are gonna lynch people for assuming doch is town
we should be lynching the shit out of your claimed medic.
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I don't think it's very solid either, to clarify.
I'm mostly inclined to vote for BrownBear at the moment.
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wtf im dying?
For what?
Seriously it would be stupid to lynch me.
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Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.
My opinions on possible lynch candidates:
1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.
2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.
3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.
4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.
5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.
6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure.
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Oh I forgot about annul, gonna read over on his stuff now as well.
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On November 28 2010 05:57 deconduo wrote:
Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.
My opinions on possible lynch candidates:
1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.
2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.
3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.
4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.
5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.
6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure.
soft defense of pandain hidden in wall of echoed text noted.
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Regarding annul, I have mixed feelings. I mean at least he has actually posted even if most of it hasn't been useful. It is hard to contribute a whole lot on day 1 with no clues, no mayoral election etc. Theres a few people that have posted less than him, and it being even more spammy; kenpachi, youngminii, scara for example as per my above post.
As coag said, the PM thing is pretty irrelevant. I'm not going to tell someone my true feelings through PM, especially because I have no idea if I'm talking to maf or not. I would like to hear what annul has to say about it though.
Sticking with youngminii until he starts to speak up.
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your splitting the votes.
there are other people who are better candidates.
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On November 28 2010 06:03 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 05:57 deconduo wrote:
Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.
My opinions on possible lynch candidates:
1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.
2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.
3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.
4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.
5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.
6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure. soft defense of pandain hidden in wall of echoed text noted.
Not a soft defence. I was voting for him because he wasn't posting. He is now posting so I changed my vote. What more needs to be said? You trying to say I'm doing something when I'm not.
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On November 28 2010 06:05 Coagulation wrote:
your splitting the votes.
there are other people who are better candidates.
Like who. Give me a good reason to vote for someone and I'll gladly do it.
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I'm going to go vote for BrownBear, seeing as how he steps in, accuses somebody of inactivity, and then promptly absconds again. Hopefully I'll be back before deadline to see if he is posting, as to perhaps remove this inactivity vote.
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My PM's with kenpachi are interesting, I'm not sure whether I should share them or not. Since he's a big lynch candidate right now does town think I should?
It might reveal a little it of information (nothing definite) about his role, but it's led me to believe he could be chaos ensuant,
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doch i would really like to see you vote. ....
unless you are gonna campaign to lynch "Rocco10925"
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EPT
