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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 13:26 GMT
#3281
On January 28 2013 22:22 Vivax wrote:
Why would grush use a jack stack like that on yamato?
I'd see grush going 100 % vigi with a jack role.


He's been paying little attention to this game, and in LVIII he didn't shoot on night 1. He might yet have a vigi bullet up his sleeve. He could still be mason (but then who has he masoned?) but Jack is a possibility too.
Artanis & marv
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 13:34 GMT
#3282
Well, we know he would be a town jack in that case, kinda pointless to talk about this unless you think he's scum.

Anyway, we know that yamato didn't tell grush anything about Chez, and didn't tell anything to town about Chez. He just told town that he thinks grush is mafia cause he didn't push for more communication.
But yamato didn't push for communication either.

To be honest, I don't know if I should believe that the ones masoning Chez D1 aren't mafia. You know what I thought of both of them throughout the game, and I could see this as a mindfuck attempt.

They never tried to make conclusions openly about Chez's alignment until this day right? Or did yamato tell you something decisive D2, FT?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 28 2013 13:36 GMT
#3283
I will be here for max of another 30min, and then going to bed. Will be up 1-2hrs before NK with just phone access.

If you want to ask me questions, now is the time.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 13:39 GMT
#3284
On January 28 2013 22:34 Vivax wrote:
Well, we know he would be a town jack in that case, kinda pointless to talk about this unless you think he's scum.

Anyway, we know that yamato didn't tell grush anything about Chez, and didn't tell anything to town about Chez. He just told town that he thinks grush is mafia cause he didn't push for more communication.
But yamato didn't push for communication either.

To be honest, I don't know if I should believe that the ones masoning Chez D1 aren't mafia. You know what I thought of both of them throughout the game, and I could see this as a mindfuck attempt.

They never tried to make conclusions openly about Chez's alignment until this day right? Or did yamato tell you something decisive D2, FT?


I think they both thought he was tentatively town coming into Day 2, which seemed fair enough, as he had seemingly been putting in far more effort in PMs than in the thread.

The thing is, we've already had 2 mafia masons flip, and then there's Mocsta/yamato/Toad/(grush?). That would be about the ratio of mafia-town masons that I would be expecting.
Artanis & marv
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 13:41 GMT
#3285
Well if I had to pick between yamato and Mocsta I'd say Mocsta is scum as of now. Him trying to make connections between me and Chez on a weak basis right before the flip looked pretty ugly.
Gonna filter dive a little.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 28 2013 13:42 GMT
#3286
18min to go Vivax
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 13:46 GMT
#3287
Don't worry dude, I'm not holding you.
You know I see frequent absence announcements as scumtrait?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 28 2013 13:50 GMT
#3288
lol.. what dont u see as a scum trait vivax.

Keeping tunneling me all you want (Im assuming your finally off Yamato)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 28 2013 13:52 GMT
#3289
Ohh and Vivax. its good to know next game I play with you ..

In my first post I will write starsenses
and subsequently i will make one post per cycle.

The outcome: Vivax will think I am town.

Awesome heuristics there Vivax.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 13:54 GMT
#3290
On January 28 2013 10:07 Mocsta wrote:
So mafia have framer and roleblocker left

and have lost 2 masons.. what are the chances they would have >2 masons on a 5 man team?


Given that there is no evidence for a mafia roleblocker, this might be a "townslip"?
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 13:59 GMT
#3291
On January 28 2013 22:41 Vivax wrote:
Well if I had to pick between yamato and Mocsta I'd say Mocsta is scum as of now. Him trying to make connections between me and Chez on a weak basis right before the flip looked pretty ugly.
Gonna filter dive a little.


It seems unlikely just due to mason numbers that either of them are mafia. You have to remember that bugs made his list before he died not knowing that moc+yam+chez were masons.

There are people like Stutters/fuba who don't have anything like this going for them. Bodyguards should also be left until later, ideally.
Artanis & marv
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 28 2013 14:00 GMT
#3292
I assume that is rhetorical.

Im going to bed now.

Last wishes:
mkfuba is still my #1
he has added some token posts into the fray, but nothing is really contributing, its just agreeing with status quo and in my opinion trying to blend in. I dont recall any original thought within his posts either.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 14:03 GMT
#3293
FT, Mocsta

Would you lynch fuba tomorrow?
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 14:05 GMT
#3294
On January 28 2013 23:03 Vivax wrote:
FT, Mocsta

Would you lynch fuba tomorrow?


Right now I'm heavily considering Stutters, because he missed the fact you claimed the check on bugs.

He explained himself by basically saying he's ignoring your posts.

This is all very well, but both Toad and I (and others too) repeatedly made mention of the check. This signals an absolute failure to read the thread; not good.
Artanis & marv
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 14:08 GMT
#3295
On January 28 2013 20:12 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 19:16 Mocsta wrote:
The logs between Chez and I as promised. I am posting this incase I am a target for the NK for whatever reason

I do not have the IRC stuff, but that is where we discussed the 6 weapons of influence etc (i.e. #1 reciprocity etc)

Anyways, of note.. Chezinu says:
On January 28 2013 19:13 Mocsta wrote:
Chezinu
grush - I've seen him play mafia a lot. He is usually the first to go.

As townie, I don't know.

Toad no like grush
Grush like yam!


Chez is now confirmed mafia, and says he not sure if Grush is town.

WHAT is weird. is.. Chezinu says "Grush like yam!"... this was WAY before yamato came out and said Grush mason him.

Im not sure what to make of this... just got home from another bbq, so not in the mood to think.


Thanks. I'll take a better look at the logs when I wake up.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 19:45 annul wrote:
did chez use his ability on yamato, or is yamato also a mason and yamato used his power to talk to chez?

I'm pretty sure yamato masoned chez. I'm not sure who chez masoned D1. Do we know who grush masoned D2, D3? It seems he also missed his second vote, so he's kind of on my mind.


What do you make of this?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 14:11 GMT
#3296
That, ladies and gentlemen, is a scumslip.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 14:12 GMT
#3297
Or he's just making bold assumptions, meh. Not sure yet.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 14:13 GMT
#3298
Yeah, that's no more of a scumslip than you assuming gonzaw used his Jack shot Night 1
Artanis & marv
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 14:16 GMT
#3299
On January 27 2013 01:31 mkfuba07 wrote:
I just realized that if people think I'm the 5th mafia, then all they might want to hear is what I think of my "scumbuddies". BKE is scum based on activity level and decrease in NKs N2. Chez I haven't filtered or anything, but the surety of DS, toad, and FT (particularly FT, since I've clearly come to some disagreement with DS and toad) is telling me to go with it. There were a few things going through the voting thread that go along with a scum chez, so I think it's viable. I guess I'll even vote chez, just to have that second vote on scum until I can find the 5th.

##Vote: Chezinu

All I care about is the last scum, because it's not me, and I don't particularly feel like it's yamato or mocsta. Am I the only one in the game who doesn't have debears, stutters, axle, and clarity ruled out? (Again, apologies for missing these,. I'm sure I remember reading something about all of them, but I can't remember for the life of me. In any case, answering me helps town more than yelling at me for not noting it down when I read it the first time.)

Also, Vivax, is it time to disclose what you found last night? Because you accuse FT of being scum for (among other incorrect reasons) not releasing who masoned him (which isn't scummy), but you turn around and refuse to divulge your DT check (something that is just infuriating). ...Please?

Gotta go walk the dog, be back soon if anyone wants to talk a bit.


He wasn't even very interested in Chez until that point, now he says "just to have that vote on scum"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22422 Posts
January 28 2013 14:19 GMT
#3300
Bah, I'll let the night pass and see what happens. I'm seeing things again.
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