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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 14:23 GMT
#3301
Vivax, while we're both here - if you are indeed town, you should probably check someone we're not likely to lynch tomorrow. Also, beware the framer.
Artanis & marv
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22107 Posts
January 28 2013 14:29 GMT
#3302
That's why I asked you and Mocsta.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 14:38 GMT
#3303
On January 28 2013 23:29 Vivax wrote:
That's why I asked you and Mocsta.


Alright. It seems kinda likely we'll lynch between fuba and Stutters tomorrow. There's one progression in fuba's filter I don't like - after you revealed your gonzaw check but before he actually flipped, he said you were pretty likely to be town. Since then your check was confirmed correct, and subsequently now he thinks you're mafia.

I'm not quite sure how much I read into that right now, given how... abrasive? you've been since then. Dunno.
Artanis & marv
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 28 2013 14:58 GMT
#3304
Fivetouch, what do you see in Stutters that makes you think that he is scum?
No gg, No skill.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 14:58 GMT
#3305
Have you not been reading what I said about him? :/
Artanis & marv
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 28 2013 15:03 GMT
#3306
Cause he didnt read the thread?
Only thing I can find.
No gg, No skill.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 15:10 GMT
#3307
It's quite an important thing ^^

There aren't many reasons to call either Stutters or fuba town.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 15:14 GMT
#3308
annul, who do you think is mafia right now?
Artanis & marv
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 28 2013 15:32 GMT
#3309
Let's kill austin tomorrow.

D1 here's what happened:
I asked Gonzaw to vote for me to make me sheriff. He said he'll look into it and vote me if he won't get enough votes.
He keeps his vote on himself until 5 minutes (by heart..) prior to deadline and sticks with it because he has 3 votes.
HOWEVER he said he's fine with both austin and me and I think he was more fine with austin being sheriff than me.

Have to check it but it looks odd. On top of that look at Chez' votes: austin -> BKE -> gonzaw 1 minute prior to deadline.

On top of that if we assume Sandro (voting austin), axle (99% certain townie) and mocsta (most likely townie due to double mason flip) that leaves oats, Gonzaw and austin as people on austin / gonzaw. Gonzaw was mafia. Let's say oats is town for now. That means they can only get one to 4 without using a ninjavote from chez to push it to 5 which they MOST LIKELY didn't want to risk because that would have made it look really odd.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 28 2013 15:34 GMT
#3310
[16:29:26] Mystery Man: hm
[16:32:22] Mystery Man: austin defended prplhz a lot day 1
[16:32:26] Mystery Man: like
[16:32:33] Mystery Man: a metric fuckton
[16:32:42] Mystery Man: go through his filter eith cntrl+f on prplhz
[16:32:57] Mystery Man: it's goddamn everywhere
holy shit
[16:33:51] Mystery Mane: dude he's mafia
[16:33:55] Mystery Man: he's fucking mafia
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22107 Posts
January 28 2013 15:35 GMT
#3311
On January 26 2013 10:00 DearestSnot wrote:
AUSTIN CANNOT BE SCUM.

He would have cannibalized gonzaw's day 1 votes; they would not run together


What do you think about this?
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 15:36 GMT
#3312
On January 29 2013 00:32 Toadesstern wrote:
Let's kill austin tomorrow.

D1 here's what happened:
I asked Gonzaw to vote for me to make me sheriff. He said he'll look into it and vote me if he won't get enough votes.
He keeps his vote on himself until 5 minutes (by heart..) prior to deadline and sticks with it because he has 3 votes.
HOWEVER he said he's fine with both austin and me and I think he was more fine with austin being sheriff than me.

Have to check it but it looks odd. On top of that look at Chez' votes: austin -> BKE -> gonzaw 1 minute prior to deadline.

On top of that if we assume Sandro (voting austin), axle (99% certain townie) and mocsta (most likely townie due to double mason flip) that leaves oats, Gonzaw and austin as people on austin / gonzaw. Gonzaw was mafia. Let's say oats is town for now. That means they can only get one to 4 without using a ninjavote from chez to push it to 5 which they MOST LIKELY didn't want to risk because that would have made it look really odd.


The problem is, this is incorrect. He stated more than once he preferred you to austin.

On January 22 2013 07:13 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 07:04 Toadesstern wrote:
gonzaw vote me now :p


I'll see if I get some votes first. I prefer you over austin though, so if it comes down to it I'll change my vote to you.

Artanis & marv
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 28 2013 15:44 GMT
#3313
On January 29 2013 00:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 10:00 DearestSnot wrote:
AUSTIN CANNOT BE SCUM.

He would have cannibalized gonzaw's day 1 votes; they would not run together


What do you think about this?

that was at a time when we were dead certain about BKE and chez both being mafia. I'd say he's a good option again.
On January 29 2013 00:36 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 00:32 Toadesstern wrote:
Let's kill austin tomorrow.

D1 here's what happened:
I asked Gonzaw to vote for me to make me sheriff. He said he'll look into it and vote me if he won't get enough votes.
He keeps his vote on himself until 5 minutes (by heart..) prior to deadline and sticks with it because he has 3 votes.
HOWEVER he said he's fine with both austin and me and I think he was more fine with austin being sheriff than me.

Have to check it but it looks odd. On top of that look at Chez' votes: austin -> BKE -> gonzaw 1 minute prior to deadline.

On top of that if we assume Sandro (voting austin), axle (99% certain townie) and mocsta (most likely townie due to double mason flip) that leaves oats, Gonzaw and austin as people on austin / gonzaw. Gonzaw was mafia. Let's say oats is town for now. That means they can only get one to 4 without using a ninjavote from chez to push it to 5 which they MOST LIKELY didn't want to risk because that would have made it look really odd.


The problem is, this is incorrect. He stated more than once he preferred you to austin.

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 07:13 gonzaw wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:04 Toadesstern wrote:
gonzaw vote me now :p


I'll see if I get some votes first. I prefer you over austin though, so if it comes down to it I'll change my vote to you.


well yeah, but he never did...
Just check austins filter.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 28 2013 15:45 GMT
#3314
On January 29 2013 00:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 10:00 DearestSnot wrote:
AUSTIN CANNOT BE SCUM.

He would have cannibalized gonzaw's day 1 votes; they would not run together


What do you think about this?

i mean, same could be said about Chez. He had 3 votes if not 4 at some point and ended up with 2 votes I think?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 15:47 GMT
#3315
On January 29 2013 00:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 00:35 Vivax wrote:
On January 26 2013 10:00 DearestSnot wrote:
AUSTIN CANNOT BE SCUM.

He would have cannibalized gonzaw's day 1 votes; they would not run together


What do you think about this?

that was at a time when we were dead certain about BKE and chez both being mafia. I'd say he's a good option again.
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 00:36 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 29 2013 00:32 Toadesstern wrote:
Let's kill austin tomorrow.

D1 here's what happened:
I asked Gonzaw to vote for me to make me sheriff. He said he'll look into it and vote me if he won't get enough votes.
He keeps his vote on himself until 5 minutes (by heart..) prior to deadline and sticks with it because he has 3 votes.
HOWEVER he said he's fine with both austin and me and I think he was more fine with austin being sheriff than me.

Have to check it but it looks odd. On top of that look at Chez' votes: austin -> BKE -> gonzaw 1 minute prior to deadline.

On top of that if we assume Sandro (voting austin), axle (99% certain townie) and mocsta (most likely townie due to double mason flip) that leaves oats, Gonzaw and austin as people on austin / gonzaw. Gonzaw was mafia. Let's say oats is town for now. That means they can only get one to 4 without using a ninjavote from chez to push it to 5 which they MOST LIKELY didn't want to risk because that would have made it look really odd.


The problem is, this is incorrect. He stated more than once he preferred you to austin.

On January 22 2013 07:13 gonzaw wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:04 Toadesstern wrote:
gonzaw vote me now :p


I'll see if I get some votes first. I prefer you over austin though, so if it comes down to it I'll change my vote to you.


well yeah, but he never did...
Just check austins filter.


He never did, but so what? gonzaw never even left the door open for him being able to vote for austin, because if he voted for austin after saying he preferred you, he'd be caught immediately. He didn't vote for you in the end because a) he's mafia and b) you already had the position.
Artanis & marv
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 28 2013 15:54 GMT
#3316
On January 29 2013 00:47 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 00:44 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 29 2013 00:35 Vivax wrote:
On January 26 2013 10:00 DearestSnot wrote:
AUSTIN CANNOT BE SCUM.

He would have cannibalized gonzaw's day 1 votes; they would not run together


What do you think about this?

that was at a time when we were dead certain about BKE and chez both being mafia. I'd say he's a good option again.
On January 29 2013 00:36 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 29 2013 00:32 Toadesstern wrote:
Let's kill austin tomorrow.

D1 here's what happened:
I asked Gonzaw to vote for me to make me sheriff. He said he'll look into it and vote me if he won't get enough votes.
He keeps his vote on himself until 5 minutes (by heart..) prior to deadline and sticks with it because he has 3 votes.
HOWEVER he said he's fine with both austin and me and I think he was more fine with austin being sheriff than me.

Have to check it but it looks odd. On top of that look at Chez' votes: austin -> BKE -> gonzaw 1 minute prior to deadline.

On top of that if we assume Sandro (voting austin), axle (99% certain townie) and mocsta (most likely townie due to double mason flip) that leaves oats, Gonzaw and austin as people on austin / gonzaw. Gonzaw was mafia. Let's say oats is town for now. That means they can only get one to 4 without using a ninjavote from chez to push it to 5 which they MOST LIKELY didn't want to risk because that would have made it look really odd.


The problem is, this is incorrect. He stated more than once he preferred you to austin.

On January 22 2013 07:13 gonzaw wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:04 Toadesstern wrote:
gonzaw vote me now :p


I'll see if I get some votes first. I prefer you over austin though, so if it comes down to it I'll change my vote to you.


well yeah, but he never did...
Just check austins filter.


He never did, but so what? gonzaw never even left the door open for him being able to vote for austin, because if he voted for austin after saying he preferred you, he'd be caught immediately. He didn't vote for you in the end because a) he's mafia and b) you already had the position.

you don't think that this one
[16:29:26] Mystery Man: hm
[16:32:22] Mystery Man: austin defended prplhz a lot day 1
[16:32:26] Mystery Man: like
[16:32:33] Mystery Man: a metric fuckton
[16:32:42] Mystery Man: go through his filter eith cntrl+f on prplhz
[16:32:57] Mystery Man: it's goddamn everywhere
holy shit
[16:33:51] Mystery Mane: dude he's mafia
[16:33:55] Mystery Man: he's fucking mafia

means anything?

You don't think that his recent lurkerish attitude doesn't mean anything? Maybe Bugs, you and I are dominating the discussion too much but austin usually is a guy who's posting some.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 28 2013 15:56 GMT
#3317
On January 29 2013 00:14 FiveTouch wrote:
annul, who do you think is mafia right now?


i am not sure. my gut tells me yamato, but on balance, i doubt the mason split is 3/3. i think its much more likely that it is 4/2 town and so the claimed masons are probably all towns.

i think oats is town. i think you are town.

the only remaining targets then are stutters, fuba, adam/clarity, axle, austin, and debears. right? it's probably someone in that list there.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 15:58 GMT
#3318
So in other words, you have no opinion whatsoever?
Artanis & marv
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 28 2013 15:59 GMT
#3319
are there logs of yamato's mason chats with chez?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 28 2013 16:00 GMT
#3320
Filter's worse than that.

I was all blah about prplhz D1, found Gonzaw townie, and somewhat pushed to save Gonzaw D2.

I noted that one of the reasons not to make me mayor was that I'd be busy until the end of the month with work. That was an understatement. I'm posting WAY less and reading WAY less than usual, I know. That will most likely continue until the end of January, or whenever I can get my work out the door.

That said, I don't see it making sense for both Gonzaw and I to run as third-place folks when we could have consolidated. If I were mafia and trying to save Gonzaw D2, I should have: (1) started talking about a possible frame from the very outset, to maybe keep votes off him BEFORE they got there; (2) shut up and let Gonzaw die, given that so many votes had been dropped on him and it was unlikely I'd save him before the end of D2.
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