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TheChyz
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Balla24
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On January 06 2014 10:15 suki wrote: Hi everyone, let me just get right into this. Let me get this straight. TheChyz is implying that Balla, by promoting an active town and "lynching" lurkers, helps Balla if he's scum. What? I want to point out that nobody said anything about lynching lurkers at this point except TheChyz himself, who seems to be putting the words in Balla's mouth. Discouraging lurking is not scum play. It is a good idea to let everybody know from the start that lurking will be considered suspicious behaviour, because whether or not they are ultimately lynched for it, lurking is not helpful to town. I find TheChyz's logic flawed, and I really don't like the way he misrepresented what Balla said and then accused him of scum motivations for that misrepresentation. TheChyz please explain to us why discouraging (or even lynching) lurkers is beneficial to a scum Balla but not a townie Balla. ##vote TheChyz | ||
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TheChyz
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Balla24
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On January 06 2014 08:08 TheChyz wrote: Hi "nobody", I'm TheChyz. To On January 06 2014 08:02 Balla24 wrote: I'm just trying to gauge how people play... it's certainly pretty generic and you can't read to deep into it. But some people would analyze it very hard. For example: He seems to be agreeing with something that nobody said, which hints that he wasn't carefully reading ("I agree with lurking to be discouraged by just lynching them for the most part") Then. I find it hard to believe that you that you purposefully were misreading what I was saying and, as suki said "putting words into my mouth". Seems like you're trying to backtrack. | ||
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Balla24
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TheChyz
Canada238 Posts
Since it seems its only us two, what are your opinions on Day_Walker so far? | ||
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Balla24
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I also don't like his reasoning for the town read on dragoon... On January 06 2014 11:33 Day_Walker wrote: Not afraid of get into disagreements, and willing to stand up to the people he accuses (at least until he left the thread. Hmm) . Doesn't seem like cautious scum play. Of course you're going to stand up to the people you accuse... this seems REALLY forced. "Doesn't seem like cautious scum play", what does this even mean? | ||
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Balla24
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probuLing
United States75 Posts
On January 06 2014 08:38 Balla24 wrote: Thread is dying fast... need backup ASAP. I also am not too fond of Asuna's entry, but there's nothing really scummy about it. I just feel you have opportunities to enlighten me about yourself and your opinions but you are hiding behind one liners for some reason. I'm just concise with my answers. I was asked pretty direct and narrowish questions so I gave pretty direct and narrowish answers. Also keeping track of everything in forum mafia is surprisingly different, so hopefully I didn't miss anything I'm supposed to be replying to from the last couple of pages. Basically I've played a bit of mafia, am probably terrible at reading people, but TheChyz does seem a bit fishy for the reasons Day_Walker said. Might be too early to tell though. | ||
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Balla24
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On January 06 2014 14:16 Asuna wrote: I'm just concise with my answers. I was asked pretty direct and narrowish questions so I gave pretty direct and narrowish answers. Also keeping track of everything in forum mafia is surprisingly different, so hopefully I didn't miss anything I'm supposed to be replying to from the last couple of pages. Basically I've played a bit of mafia, am probably terrible at reading people, but TheChyz does seem a bit fishy for the reasons Day_Walker said. Might be too early to tell though. So what's your take on TheChyz's claim that he was purposefully acting scummy to find people who would bandwagon on him? Do you believe it, why or why not? | ||
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probuLing
United States75 Posts
On January 06 2014 14:20 Balla24 wrote: So what's your take on TheChyz's claim that he was purposefully acting scummy to find people who would bandwagon on him? Do you believe it, why or why not? I don't really see how that can do anything other than fog things up for the town, so it seems scummy either way. | ||
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Balla24
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However, let's think about it from both perspectives... From a scum perspective, 2 options: 1. You accidentally got yourself in a hard to get out of situation, so instead of trying to reason your way out of it you call it fake to backtrack. 2. You are deliberately putting yourself under suspicion to ultimately gain weak town cred. From town perspective: You are deliberately putting yourself under suspicion to scumhunt. Both scum situations seem really weird to do... #1 because it should be really easy to reason your way out of the situation he is as scum (at least imo) or at least backtrack by admitting fault etc.. #2 just seems weird... it's like..."ima be scummy so that i can try to discredit a townie and by doing so become more townie myself" Town perspective also seems weird... for me, the small amount of scumhunting he's done to follow it up (so far) makes me lean more towards scum on him rather than town, but we'll have to see how he follows it up more. For example though, I have no real idea why you chose Day_walker to go after rather than the other's who went after you, like suki, myself, sidesprang etc... | ||
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theDragoon
Canada307 Posts
A mafia putting his name out there this early is a bad plan if enough people jump on the bandwagon. I'm conflicted, all TheChyz has done is create confusion. If enough people get off the bandwagon and he turns out to be a mafia, then he's won and the risk he took with putting his name out there would be totally worth it. Whether or not it's true that TheChyz was telling the truth about the whole act like a scum thing, all it's really done is create confusion among the town. ##Vote: TheChyz | ||
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Balla24
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Balla24
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On January 06 2014 09:55 theDragoon wrote: Guys, this is very difficult compared to mafia IRL. But if I'm to go with my experience playing with friends, the most vocal people at the start who try to take control of the game tend to be mafia. Random accusations seem suspicious as well, so based on what's been posted so far, my eye is on Balla24, sidesprang and TheChyz. Also, I still want to know who you were referring to when you said "Random accusations seem suspicious as well". | ||
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theDragoon
Canada307 Posts
About the random accusation thing, a bunch of people started ##voting random people. It's my first time playing this so I'm assuming doing that in the thread that early in the game just seems really random to me when there isn't much information to go on. I assume that by ##voting that they are serious with those accusations, so excuse me if doing that randomly in the thread is something that's very common and isn't meant to be taken 100% serious. Also, on Day_Walker he seems to have good intentions.Calling out TheChyz as the only possible scum on the list seems like a bandwagon hop to me but TheChyz has been suspicious so it's something I agree with. His read on me I find is a bit unnecessary and does not really prove that I am a townie. I'm sure everyone playing this game is not afraid to disagree and standing up for yourself is something everyone does. He might just be including me on the list because I've posted a bit but his reasoning behind me as a townie really has no foundation. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
Suki - Balla's not clogging the thread at all. His posts have a purpose we have sub 100 posts in the first 8 hours. You're the person clogging the thread complaining about his actions. Balla - I was out with the gf all day. I'll be here a while and more active around deadlines in the future. Chyz - could be scum but i doubt it at this point. owb - if he doesn't post more this game I want to lynch him day 1. I'm sick of it. He's completely competent and has enough time to read 4 pages of the thread when he can keep up with LOLDG and LOLOTGD which average 200-300 posts a day. Gonna reread the thread. I skimmed in order to catch up and get this post out saying I'm here. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On January 06 2014 15:13 theDragoon wrote: @Balla24 About the random accusation thing, a bunch of people started ##voting random people. It's my first time playing this so I'm assuming doing that in the thread that early in the game just seems really random to me when there isn't much information to go on. I assume that by ##voting that they are serious with those accusations, so excuse me if doing that randomly in the thread is something that's very common and isn't meant to be taken 100% serious. Also, on Day_Walker he seems to have good intentions.Calling out TheChyz as the only possible scum on the list seems like a bandwagon hop to me but TheChyz has been suspicious so it's something I agree with. His read on me I find is a bit unnecessary and does not really prove that I am a townie. I'm sure everyone playing this game is not afraid to disagree and standing up for yourself is something everyone does. He might just be including me on the list because I've posted a bit but his reasoning behind me as a townie really has no foundation. You're not saying anything with authority. You're hesitant and making excuses throughout that post. What are your opinions so far? I don't care how other people feel about you or if it's your first game. That doesn't matter. | ||
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Balla24
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