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TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
January 06 2014 07:15 GMT
#341
well, ok... Although you kinda did 3-4 but w/e
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 07:17 GMT
#342
@Asuna think about WHY Johnny is doing the things he did. Why did he pressure you and OWB specifically? Its un alignment indicative for jonny BUT look at the reaction he got out of you... just read ur filter before and after he did that, so much more can be said about you now... reactions like that are great for reading people and having material to go off of
probuLing
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States75 Posts
January 06 2014 07:17 GMT
#343
For someone who was supposedly going to be here for a few hours as of less than an hour ago, Jonny is taking quite a while to come up with a response lol. Sleep time for me now though @.@
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 07:21 GMT
#344
On January 06 2014 16:15 TheChyz wrote:
well, ok... Although you kinda did 3-4 but w/e

I rank owb/dragoon higher then the others ATM, speaking on who I'd like to lynch
probuLing
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States75 Posts
January 06 2014 07:25 GMT
#345
On January 06 2014 16:17 Balla24 wrote:
@Asuna think about WHY Johnny is doing the things he did. Why did he pressure you and OWB specifically? Its un alignment indicative for jonny BUT look at the reaction he got out of you... just read ur filter before and after he did that, so much more can be said about you now... reactions like that are great for reading people and having material to go off of

Yea except he wasn't even helpful in his response to dragoon by ignoring all dragoon's questions. But he found the post worthwhile to respond to, whereas all of Chyz's posts got one linered with a simple (within the larger containing post) at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&currentpage=16#317
On January 06 2014 15:19 JonnyLaw wrote:
Chyz - could be scum but i doubt it at this point.


and then at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&currentpage=17#321 we have
On January 06 2014 15:30 JonnyLaw wrote:
Dragoon and Chyz read more as if they're trying but misguided.


So Dragoon are Chyz get stuck together with the same amount of suspicion, but one is worth quoting and attacking in a sort of twisted way (Dragoon gave an opinion in whereas Jonny is acting like no opinion was given). And the other... is worthy of being labeled doubtfully scum.

It's not that Jonny was antagonistic that bothers me. It's how he did it, what he ignored, and how Chyz seems to have the most dismissively not scum association for him - which stands out from everyone else up to that point. And it was done in a sort of brushing under the table in the middle of other topics kind of way.

Anyways sleep time for real now haha T,T xD
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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
January 06 2014 07:36 GMT
#346
Day 1 vote count:

Balla24 (0): chinstrap
TheChyz (3): chinstrap, suki, theDragoon
JonnyLaw (0): Balla24
Day_Walker (1): TheChyz
onlywonderboy (1): Balla24

Not voting (8): Asuna, onlywonderboy, Derrida, BigDad, dnyarri, sidesprang, Day_Walker, JonnyLaw

Currently, TheChyz is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Tuesday, Jan 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory!

If there are errors, please let us know.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 06 2014 07:45 GMT
#347
I'm playing League. Games take 30-60 mins.

Asuna - you said you want your answers to be concise and your filter contained exactly zero content. Now when I comment you get very defensive. Cmon is this the best you have for this game?

Dragoon - His post was bad. Very bad. I'm telling him why I think that it's not helpful and why. Kinda straightforward I'd say.

Chyz - Here it is. He's playing stupid bad. Worse than I'd expect from scum in a newbie game. There's a lot of time to make up my mind about him.

I'm not going to be lynched today so don't waste your time trying asuna. You're looking worse and worse to me. Bandwagon the easy lynch on chyz.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 06 2014 07:46 GMT
#348
*and see how it works.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 07:49 GMT
#349
Woah jonny... Take a step back. Didnt you learn from last game about not being abrasively aggrssive like this.. Also...Thats not the reasoning i thouggt you would use at all for justifying writing of chyz either..
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 06 2014 07:56 GMT
#350
Chyz has 5 real posts. I'm not laying my entire thought process out there unless it's needed to secure a lynch. Why telegraph your hunting for scum to adapt?

His quick daywalker vote is the only part that strikes me as being off.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 08:18 GMT
#351
The situation with chyz is super wifomy, circular logic stuff that is better to avoid rather than to dwell on. that's the reasoning I expected you to use... you can't easily come up with a conclusion around it so why bother... until something more conclusive comes up surrounding him he is best left at a neutral read...

why do you dislike his vote on day walker? his reasoning? the omgus?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 06 2014 08:31 GMT
#352
I didn't realize that daywalker's only post in the game was that list.

I actually don't disagree chyz' reasoning.


On January 06 2014 12:08 TheChyz wrote:
Ok I think my little posts before I had to go afk helped generate enough argument to start conversations going. I actually total love the idea of trying to catch bandwagoners early and since Balla posted something similar to the train of thought I usually have I thought someone would catch the link. If you did, congrats.

I don't really like Day_Walkers entrance since basically he just gives us a list and then says that he leaves. From my personal experience I tend to give lists a lot when I am mafia and post very little. There is no reason to provide a list unless you have to (getting lynched, etc) imo. He is also the only one that seems to kinda still ride the end of the "vote chyz" bandwagon and then labels everybody else as town. Seems like a very safe move. If you think I'm scum why not put your vote where your mouth is? Don't like him very much at the moment and would like to hear more from him apart from the "agreeing with ..." slogan that you seem to use so very much.

##Vote: Day_Walker


That's along my thinking. Chyz is a safe wagon vote. Jumping on lynch targets that others chose first when there's not a real case makes me uneasy. Daywalker needs to contribute or he joins my lynch OWB for doing nothing wagon.

Overall I want to see more content from everyone. If you're scum balla I'll at least get something to work with from your posting quantity. I can't say the same about 90% of the game. Ill still be around a while tonight and most of the afternoon tomorrow to keep this game moving.

On another note I was some explanation from bigdad

On January 06 2014 15:42 BigDad wrote:
Hey everyone,

Sorry to miss the bulk of the conversation so far, the Australian timezone kind of skews the timeframes a little for me.

Okay I've read through the thread, and mistakenly thought chinstrap seemed scummy until i re-read that he is confirmed innocent child!

As someone coming late to the thread it gives me an external perspective so bear with me on my reads so far. Im leaning towards Balla and TheChyz being townie. However I may be completely off on this one.

Balla seems townie, he is stirring up the most conversation out of everyone.

I'm more skeptical of TheChyz, his loose play followed by claiming it to be "some trolly remark" is either a 180 freak out after he got voted OR its a great play drawing out the scum bandwagon.

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 09:55 theDragoon wrote:
Guys, this is very difficult compared to mafia IRL. But if I'm to go with my experience playing with friends, the most vocal people at the start who try to take control of the game tend to be mafia. Random accusations seem suspicious as well, so based on what's been posted so far, my eye is on Balla24, sidesprang and TheChyz.



The dragoon has an early point that seems to me to stifle conversation rather than nourish it then jumps on the aforementioned bandwagon.

At this stage theDragoon has my suspicion.



If you're here then post. You call chyz scum and town in the same post. Then you call the IC scum. What a transparent method of gaining town cred. Why are you suspicious of dragoon? He's far down my list of scum at this point.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 08:31 GMT
#353
On January 06 2014 16:10 theDragoon wrote:
dynarri and Derrida since they've posted nothing so far.
/notserious


why did you dodge twice...
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 06 2014 08:34 GMT
#354
sorry meant to highlight his second idea.

Okay I've read through the thread, and mistakenly thought chinstrap seemed scummy until i re-read that he is confirmed innocent child!

I hate this post and the exclamation point even more. Yeah we get it you didn't read the game. You need to clarify it with an explanation point or are you trying to use such an easy method of gaining town cred?

I didn't know he's town but I would have if I knew my scum team!
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 06 2014 08:34 GMT
#355
fuck im so tired, that second line was supposed to be a quote from bigdad.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 06 2014 08:37 GMT
#356
yeah I had the same problems with that too... going to sleep though... I think ppl have a LOT to talk about so hoping to see lots when I wake up
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 06 2014 09:11 GMT
#357
@JonnyLaw

First and foremost - this was my debut post, i thought the idea was to be as transparent as possible as Town. So, for more transparency let me elaborate on my perspective now:

just because i'm suspicious doesn't mean i'm 100% sold theDragoon is scum. I admit that I don't have an ironclad filter however if you look at theDragoon's filter i feel like he is dodging a lot of questioning without actually adding anything to the debate: ie.

dynarri and Derrida since they've posted nothing so far.
/notserious


With so many votes on TheChyz we really need to start determining whether he is scum or not, I know the probability of a mislynching is higher at the start of the game but i'd rather not lynch someone who is contributing a decent amount.
|=| Bonkers |=|
BigDad
Profile Joined August 2012
67 Posts
January 06 2014 09:52 GMT
#358
hopefully an exclamation point on my initial post isnt enoughto bandwagon or incriminate me, i think punctuation plays only a minor role in determining someones attitude... which without a doubt important when establishing a players underlying motives.

i hope we hear from dynarri and derrida
|=| Bonkers |=|
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 06 2014 09:52 GMT
#359
Bd what do you think about Asuna and daywalker?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 06 2014 09:53 GMT
#360
We know there are lurkers here. Talk about who's posted.
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