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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 19 2011 18:37 GMT
#301
On August 20 2011 03:30 Sevryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:15 Erandorr wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:06 Sevryn wrote:
On August 20 2011 02:46 DropBear wrote:
OK wtf Palmar? I actually don't understand. What is your problem with me exactly? Nearly all of your posts are one liners that are some variation of "Kill DropBear".

On August 19 2011 22:35 Palmar wrote:
you guys are fucking lazy and boring.

Why not just bandwagon everything I say? that's a good plan.

Go read DB's first post in PTP2 where he was town. He's like 1000 trillion times more careful and vague in these opening posts than last time.

Here's his PTP2 opening post for comparison: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10466682

He's careful to just give advice that cannot possibly rub anyone the wrong way.

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM

The "not safe" post you link included a joke about Harry Potter, a complete throwaway vote on kitaman27 and a joke about sandroba's plans. My first post in this thread advocated forcing people to change their vote, how is that so incredibly safe compared PTP2?

I don't actually understand your case, I will talk to you more if you actually come up with something.



On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:00 Palmar wrote:
how about putting your vote on dropbear?

##Vote DropBear


i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people.
Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad.

[b]##Vote DropBe
and before anyone jumps on me like:
"wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do." I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum.

My posts are 2 pages after the game started. 2 pages. Half the players hadn't even posted yet and most of the ones who did posted nothing other than "/confirm".

How do you expect me to have reads on people before they have even posted, through divination? Time travel?

What's with the random defence of your actions at the end? It's like you know it's a stupid idea, but you're doing it anyway.



Did you or
Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game.


I might have missed something but what exactly makes you believe everything Palmar says in this new game?

Did you or varp read my post I said it was a pressure vote I don't need to believe palmar to pressure vote to try and find out if he is right...


Pressure vote means acting like you're going to actually lynch someone to see how they react, not say "IM PRESSURE VOTING X OLOLOLOL"
SUNSFANNED
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 19 2011 18:39 GMT
#302
On August 20 2011 03:30 Sevryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:15 Erandorr wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:06 Sevryn wrote:
On August 20 2011 02:46 DropBear wrote:
OK wtf Palmar? I actually don't understand. What is your problem with me exactly? Nearly all of your posts are one liners that are some variation of "Kill DropBear".

On August 19 2011 22:35 Palmar wrote:
you guys are fucking lazy and boring.

Why not just bandwagon everything I say? that's a good plan.

Go read DB's first post in PTP2 where he was town. He's like 1000 trillion times more careful and vague in these opening posts than last time.

Here's his PTP2 opening post for comparison: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10466682

He's careful to just give advice that cannot possibly rub anyone the wrong way.

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM

The "not safe" post you link included a joke about Harry Potter, a complete throwaway vote on kitaman27 and a joke about sandroba's plans. My first post in this thread advocated forcing people to change their vote, how is that so incredibly safe compared PTP2?

I don't actually understand your case, I will talk to you more if you actually come up with something.



On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:00 Palmar wrote:
how about putting your vote on dropbear?

##Vote DropBear


i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people.
Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad.

[b]##Vote DropBe
and before anyone jumps on me like:
"wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do." I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum.

My posts are 2 pages after the game started. 2 pages. Half the players hadn't even posted yet and most of the ones who did posted nothing other than "/confirm".

How do you expect me to have reads on people before they have even posted, through divination? Time travel?

What's with the random defence of your actions at the end? It's like you know it's a stupid idea, but you're doing it anyway.



Did you or
Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game.


I might have missed something but what exactly makes you believe everything Palmar says in this new game?

Did you or varp read my post I said it was a pressure vote I don't need to believe palmar to pressure vote to try and find out if he is right...


Well that actually is a point well made , I guess.

By the way DB do you think that inofficial mayor role will ever be used in this game? you would have to have half voting for player A against the other half voting for B. And to be completely frank do you really think you would be a good fit for that role right now , with all the shit you seem to be getting from quite a few people in here?
It sort of seems like you are trying really hard to get a good position that screams "I am not scum" and that is very unlikely to ever matter at all
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 19 2011 18:41 GMT
#303
On August 20 2011 03:37 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:30 Sevryn wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:15 Erandorr wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:06 Sevryn wrote:
On August 20 2011 02:46 DropBear wrote:
OK wtf Palmar? I actually don't understand. What is your problem with me exactly? Nearly all of your posts are one liners that are some variation of "Kill DropBear".

On August 19 2011 22:35 Palmar wrote:
you guys are fucking lazy and boring.

Why not just bandwagon everything I say? that's a good plan.

Go read DB's first post in PTP2 where he was town. He's like 1000 trillion times more careful and vague in these opening posts than last time.

Here's his PTP2 opening post for comparison: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10466682

He's careful to just give advice that cannot possibly rub anyone the wrong way.

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM

The "not safe" post you link included a joke about Harry Potter, a complete throwaway vote on kitaman27 and a joke about sandroba's plans. My first post in this thread advocated forcing people to change their vote, how is that so incredibly safe compared PTP2?

I don't actually understand your case, I will talk to you more if you actually come up with something.



On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:00 Palmar wrote:
how about putting your vote on dropbear?

##Vote DropBear


i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people.
Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad.

[b]##Vote DropBe
and before anyone jumps on me like:
"wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do." I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum.

My posts are 2 pages after the game started. 2 pages. Half the players hadn't even posted yet and most of the ones who did posted nothing other than "/confirm".

How do you expect me to have reads on people before they have even posted, through divination? Time travel?

What's with the random defence of your actions at the end? It's like you know it's a stupid idea, but you're doing it anyway.



Did you or
Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game.


I might have missed something but what exactly makes you believe everything Palmar says in this new game?

Did you or varp read my post I said it was a pressure vote I don't need to believe palmar to pressure vote to try and find out if he is right...


Pressure vote means acting like you're going to actually lynch someone to see how they react, not say "IM PRESSURE VOTING X OLOLOLOL"

That was my whole point I didn't say it was a pressure vote untill after he responded and I took my vote off because palmar has a shitty case and I didn't want people to lynch me because they thought I was just bandwagoning
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#304
Ahh ok got you now.
SUNSFANNED
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#305
On August 20 2011 03:30 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:25 Varpulis wrote:
Sorry DB but i can't support a system wherein people are told who to vote for instead of deciding themselves.

lol Sevryn. sheeping on palmar's bullshit wagon because he was town in SH Mafia? Being right in the past does not mean he's right now. Evaluate each case on its merits, not based on how good at mafia you think the accuser is.

There is the option of the "mayor" to be the one who switches to ensure a lynch, as opposed to them telling other people to change. If we have someone designated then it reduces last second shenanigans.

Would this be more palatable?

do we need to elect that lol? If you want to switch your vote to make sure that somebody dies feel free, and be prepared to be held responsible for the results.
On August 20 2011 03:30 Sevryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:15 Erandorr wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:06 Sevryn wrote:
On August 20 2011 02:46 DropBear wrote:
OK wtf Palmar? I actually don't understand. What is your problem with me exactly? Nearly all of your posts are one liners that are some variation of "Kill DropBear".

On August 19 2011 22:35 Palmar wrote:
you guys are fucking lazy and boring.

Why not just bandwagon everything I say? that's a good plan.

Go read DB's first post in PTP2 where he was town. He's like 1000 trillion times more careful and vague in these opening posts than last time.

Here's his PTP2 opening post for comparison: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10466682

He's careful to just give advice that cannot possibly rub anyone the wrong way.

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM

The "not safe" post you link included a joke about Harry Potter, a complete throwaway vote on kitaman27 and a joke about sandroba's plans. My first post in this thread advocated forcing people to change their vote, how is that so incredibly safe compared PTP2?

I don't actually understand your case, I will talk to you more if you actually come up with something.



On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:00 Palmar wrote:
how about putting your vote on dropbear?

##Vote DropBear


i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people.
Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad.

[b]##Vote DropBe
and before anyone jumps on me like:
"wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do." I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum.

My posts are 2 pages after the game started. 2 pages. Half the players hadn't even posted yet and most of the ones who did posted nothing other than "/confirm".

How do you expect me to have reads on people before they have even posted, through divination? Time travel?

What's with the random defence of your actions at the end? It's like you know it's a stupid idea, but you're doing it anyway.



Did you or
Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game.


I might have missed something but what exactly makes you believe everything Palmar says in this new game?

Did you or varp read my post I said it was a pressure vote I don't need to believe palmar to pressure vote to try and find out if he is right...

did you miss my post where i said pressure votes are bad? Get out of jail free card for scum looking to hop onto an easy bandwagon. If you get called out "no it's ok it was just pressure"
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 19 2011 18:44 GMT
#306
On August 20 2011 03:33 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:27 DropBear wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:10 Palmar wrote:
DropBear! you're here!

Hi, you're scum.

Your first post includes a question to the mods, some random advice that everyone already knows. I think you're just making blanket statements to hide the fact that you rolled red.

And of course Nard's post is hella scummy if you flip town, it means he's trying to set me up as a follow up lynch, which is potentially really good for mafia.

But I'm not sure we have to worry about that, you're the most scummy one in the thread at the moment, and I propose we investigate you with a piece of rope around your neck.

??? Cmon man, you're a better player than this. It's the first post of the game, what do you want from me a 100 page dossier on each member of the Mafia team? I was attempting to generate discussion by bringing up how we force lynches to occur.

Your first post didn't contribute anything. Should I be tunneling you for it? Of course not.

You really don't seem to like my post. Do you prefer this?
On August 19 2011 05:23 Lucidity wrote:
Hi, my name is Lucidity and I'm a Liquidite.

/discuss


Or this?
On August 19 2011 05:07 Curu wrote:
So, Foolishness confirmed as Town Vet? Discuss.


Or this?
On August 19 2011 06:01 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 05:51 Mig wrote:
Kurumi are you going to be useful or troll kurumi this game?

Let's play a game. You win, I don't, You lose, I do.
You are in a room. It has thick, cold and bare walls. One of them is made of unbreakable glass. There is a sandvich and bonk! energy drink behind it. You are very thirsty and very hungry. You have a crowbar, flamethrower and 30 pieces of shuriken. What do You do to get the food?


hahahaa

you're so scummy man. "But look at that guy, or that guy". Nah, I aint buying it, I wanna hang you tonight.

I wanted an honest post from you, not some ridiculous attempt at looking pro-town. The last thing your openers looked like were honesty.

I am trying to get things moving, get discussion started. The posts I quoted here are prime example s of why this needs to be done, noone is doing ANYTHING. In no way am I suggesting that they are Mafia, nor was it implied when I quoted them to you.

What do you mean by honesty? I didn't say anything that could potentially have been a lie? I asked questions and made suggestions, they aren't truthful or not. This makes no sense???

I don't understand your problem with me Palmar. If you are so quick to make up your mind off one post, an introduction to the game, then I sure as hell hope GMarshal didn't give you a gun.

Sucker for nostalgia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 19 2011 18:46 GMT
#307
On August 20 2011 03:44 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:33 Palmar wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:27 DropBear wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:10 Palmar wrote:
DropBear! you're here!

Hi, you're scum.

Your first post includes a question to the mods, some random advice that everyone already knows. I think you're just making blanket statements to hide the fact that you rolled red.

And of course Nard's post is hella scummy if you flip town, it means he's trying to set me up as a follow up lynch, which is potentially really good for mafia.

But I'm not sure we have to worry about that, you're the most scummy one in the thread at the moment, and I propose we investigate you with a piece of rope around your neck.

??? Cmon man, you're a better player than this. It's the first post of the game, what do you want from me a 100 page dossier on each member of the Mafia team? I was attempting to generate discussion by bringing up how we force lynches to occur.

Your first post didn't contribute anything. Should I be tunneling you for it? Of course not.

You really don't seem to like my post. Do you prefer this?
On August 19 2011 05:23 Lucidity wrote:
Hi, my name is Lucidity and I'm a Liquidite.

/discuss


Or this?
On August 19 2011 05:07 Curu wrote:
So, Foolishness confirmed as Town Vet? Discuss.


Or this?
On August 19 2011 06:01 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 05:51 Mig wrote:
Kurumi are you going to be useful or troll kurumi this game?

Let's play a game. You win, I don't, You lose, I do.
You are in a room. It has thick, cold and bare walls. One of them is made of unbreakable glass. There is a sandvich and bonk! energy drink behind it. You are very thirsty and very hungry. You have a crowbar, flamethrower and 30 pieces of shuriken. What do You do to get the food?


hahahaa

you're so scummy man. "But look at that guy, or that guy". Nah, I aint buying it, I wanna hang you tonight.

I wanted an honest post from you, not some ridiculous attempt at looking pro-town. The last thing your openers looked like were honesty.

I am trying to get things moving, get discussion started. The posts I quoted here are prime example s of why this needs to be done, noone is doing ANYTHING. In no way am I suggesting that they are Mafia, nor was it implied when I quoted them to you.

What do you mean by honesty? I didn't say anything that could potentially have been a lie? I asked questions and made suggestions, they aren't truthful or not. This makes no sense???

I don't understand your problem with me Palmar. If you are so quick to make up your mind off one post, an introduction to the game, then I sure as hell hope GMarshal didn't give you a gun.



Even better.
Computer says mafia
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 19 2011 18:47 GMT
#308
On August 20 2011 03:46 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:44 DropBear wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:33 Palmar wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:27 DropBear wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:10 Palmar wrote:
DropBear! you're here!

Hi, you're scum.

Your first post includes a question to the mods, some random advice that everyone already knows. I think you're just making blanket statements to hide the fact that you rolled red.

And of course Nard's post is hella scummy if you flip town, it means he's trying to set me up as a follow up lynch, which is potentially really good for mafia.

But I'm not sure we have to worry about that, you're the most scummy one in the thread at the moment, and I propose we investigate you with a piece of rope around your neck.

??? Cmon man, you're a better player than this. It's the first post of the game, what do you want from me a 100 page dossier on each member of the Mafia team? I was attempting to generate discussion by bringing up how we force lynches to occur.

Your first post didn't contribute anything. Should I be tunneling you for it? Of course not.

You really don't seem to like my post. Do you prefer this?
On August 19 2011 05:23 Lucidity wrote:
Hi, my name is Lucidity and I'm a Liquidite.

/discuss


Or this?
On August 19 2011 05:07 Curu wrote:
So, Foolishness confirmed as Town Vet? Discuss.


Or this?
On August 19 2011 06:01 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 05:51 Mig wrote:
Kurumi are you going to be useful or troll kurumi this game?

Let's play a game. You win, I don't, You lose, I do.
You are in a room. It has thick, cold and bare walls. One of them is made of unbreakable glass. There is a sandvich and bonk! energy drink behind it. You are very thirsty and very hungry. You have a crowbar, flamethrower and 30 pieces of shuriken. What do You do to get the food?


hahahaa

you're so scummy man. "But look at that guy, or that guy". Nah, I aint buying it, I wanna hang you tonight.

I wanted an honest post from you, not some ridiculous attempt at looking pro-town. The last thing your openers looked like were honesty.

I am trying to get things moving, get discussion started. The posts I quoted here are prime example s of why this needs to be done, noone is doing ANYTHING. In no way am I suggesting that they are Mafia, nor was it implied when I quoted them to you.

What do you mean by honesty? I didn't say anything that could potentially have been a lie? I asked questions and made suggestions, they aren't truthful or not. This makes no sense???

I don't understand your problem with me Palmar. If you are so quick to make up your mind off one post, an introduction to the game, then I sure as hell hope GMarshal didn't give you a gun.



Even better.


Ok, either you have epic tunnelvision or you're actively trying to stop discussion right now.
SUNSFANNED
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 19 2011 18:51 GMT
#309
On August 20 2011 03:35 BrownBear wrote:
Point being, Palmar, we know you want us to lynch DropBear. DropBear, we know you want us to not lynch you. Arguing about it just takes up space.

Suits me.

On August 20 2011 03:39 Erandorr wrote:
By the way DB do you think that inofficial mayor role will ever be used in this game? you would have to have half voting for player A against the other half voting for B. And to be completely frank do you really think you would be a good fit for that role right now , with all the shit you seem to be getting from quite a few people in here?
It sort of seems like you are trying really hard to get a good position that screams "I am not scum" and that is very unlikely to ever matter at all

The point of it is to ensure a no-lynch never happens. It would only be used if it looks like a no-lynch is imminent. It's a contingency.
The only person giving me shit is Palmar lol.

On August 20 2011 03:43 Varpulis wrote:
do we need to elect that lol? If you want to switch your vote to make sure that somebody dies feel free, and be prepared to be held responsible for the results.

Alright fair enough, I will do so if the situation arises.
Sucker for nostalgia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 19 2011 18:51 GMT
#310
On August 20 2011 03:47 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:46 Palmar wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:44 DropBear wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:33 Palmar wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:27 DropBear wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:10 Palmar wrote:
DropBear! you're here!

Hi, you're scum.

Your first post includes a question to the mods, some random advice that everyone already knows. I think you're just making blanket statements to hide the fact that you rolled red.

And of course Nard's post is hella scummy if you flip town, it means he's trying to set me up as a follow up lynch, which is potentially really good for mafia.

But I'm not sure we have to worry about that, you're the most scummy one in the thread at the moment, and I propose we investigate you with a piece of rope around your neck.

??? Cmon man, you're a better player than this. It's the first post of the game, what do you want from me a 100 page dossier on each member of the Mafia team? I was attempting to generate discussion by bringing up how we force lynches to occur.

Your first post didn't contribute anything. Should I be tunneling you for it? Of course not.

You really don't seem to like my post. Do you prefer this?
On August 19 2011 05:23 Lucidity wrote:
Hi, my name is Lucidity and I'm a Liquidite.

/discuss


Or this?
On August 19 2011 05:07 Curu wrote:
So, Foolishness confirmed as Town Vet? Discuss.


Or this?
On August 19 2011 06:01 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 05:51 Mig wrote:
Kurumi are you going to be useful or troll kurumi this game?

Let's play a game. You win, I don't, You lose, I do.
You are in a room. It has thick, cold and bare walls. One of them is made of unbreakable glass. There is a sandvich and bonk! energy drink behind it. You are very thirsty and very hungry. You have a crowbar, flamethrower and 30 pieces of shuriken. What do You do to get the food?


hahahaa

you're so scummy man. "But look at that guy, or that guy". Nah, I aint buying it, I wanna hang you tonight.

I wanted an honest post from you, not some ridiculous attempt at looking pro-town. The last thing your openers looked like were honesty.

I am trying to get things moving, get discussion started. The posts I quoted here are prime example s of why this needs to be done, noone is doing ANYTHING. In no way am I suggesting that they are Mafia, nor was it implied when I quoted them to you.

What do you mean by honesty? I didn't say anything that could potentially have been a lie? I asked questions and made suggestions, they aren't truthful or not. This makes no sense???

I don't understand your problem with me Palmar. If you are so quick to make up your mind off one post, an introduction to the game, then I sure as hell hope GMarshal didn't give you a gun.



Even better.


Ok, either you have epic tunnelvision or you're actively trying to stop discussion right now.


Guess which one.

Also, you seem to be advocating lynching lurkers quite heavily. Care to elaborate on that?
Computer says mafia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 19 2011 18:52 GMT
#311
EBWOP: Suits me to stop arguing about it.
Sucker for nostalgia
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 19 2011 18:52 GMT
#312
What is the point of responding to unfounded criticism by proposing some ridiculous election mechanism?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 19 2011 18:53 GMT
#313
On August 20 2011 03:35 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:21 supersoft wrote:
no.


Posts like this make me sad. Put some effort into the game.

Palmar/DropBear, I'm starting to believe at least one of you isn't, however this could just as easily be two townies chest-pounding day 1, at which point mafia just sits back and watches the fireworks as one or both get lynched, town wastes time, and they don't have to do jack shit.

Point being, Palmar, we know you want us to lynch DropBear. DropBear, we know you want us to not lynch you. Arguing about it just takes up space.

So, DropBear, if you want us to not lynch you, name someone who you think would be a better lynch target, and why. If no better alternative presents itself, I'll vote for you over a no-lynch, and you're the only person really with votes currently on you, so I highly recommend giving us some reasons why your neck should be spared.

And Palmar... you keep making statements like "nard's totally setting me up he's scum" or "dropbear's scum lets investigate by lynching him" without ANY backup. "Your first post was a question to mods ppl know YOU MUST BE COVERING YOUR TRACKS OMG MAFIA" does not constitute evidence. If DropBear's gonna be active and making plans, I'm inclined to NOT lynch him day 1, because it means one less inactive jackass dragging us down. Plus, the more active he is, the sooner he'll slip up if he actually is scum. Of course, lynching is preferable to no-lynching in 99.99% of cases, so I'll vote for him in the end if nobody else comes forth.

But I want to see a better case from you regardless.

Finally, DB's plan: in a perfect world, it'd be great, but I don't think an unofficial mayor will have the power necessary to break ties of more than one vote. Also, how do we know this mayor will be pro-town? How do we know you are pro-town? How do we know if ANYONE'S pro-town at this point?

We don't really, so I think an unofficial "mayor" will just serve to clog the thread further, will draw med-protects away from people who really need them like blues, and will end up not benefitting town in any major way.



I just want to point out I now think Brownbear is scum too.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 19 2011 18:53 GMT
#314
I bolded the scum-logic part.
Computer says mafia
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 19 2011 18:53 GMT
#315
I don't think I have... please quote where you're getting that from.

The only thing I can think of is in my large post, where I said if DB is gonna be active I'm less inclined to lynch him. This means I'm less inclined to lynch DB right now, NOT that I'm "heavily advocating lynching a lurker". Please don't put words into my mouth.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 19 2011 18:54 GMT
#316
On August 20 2011 03:53 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:35 BrownBear wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:21 supersoft wrote:
no.


Posts like this make me sad. Put some effort into the game.

Palmar/DropBear, I'm starting to believe at least one of you isn't, however this could just as easily be two townies chest-pounding day 1, at which point mafia just sits back and watches the fireworks as one or both get lynched, town wastes time, and they don't have to do jack shit.

Point being, Palmar, we know you want us to lynch DropBear. DropBear, we know you want us to not lynch you. Arguing about it just takes up space.

So, DropBear, if you want us to not lynch you, name someone who you think would be a better lynch target, and why. If no better alternative presents itself, I'll vote for you over a no-lynch, and you're the only person really with votes currently on you, so I highly recommend giving us some reasons why your neck should be spared.

And Palmar... you keep making statements like "nard's totally setting me up he's scum" or "dropbear's scum lets investigate by lynching him" without ANY backup. "Your first post was a question to mods ppl know YOU MUST BE COVERING YOUR TRACKS OMG MAFIA" does not constitute evidence. If DropBear's gonna be active and making plans, I'm inclined to NOT lynch him day 1, because it means one less inactive jackass dragging us down. Plus, the more active he is, the sooner he'll slip up if he actually is scum. Of course, lynching is preferable to no-lynching in 99.99% of cases, so I'll vote for him in the end if nobody else comes forth.

But I want to see a better case from you regardless.

Finally, DB's plan: in a perfect world, it'd be great, but I don't think an unofficial mayor will have the power necessary to break ties of more than one vote. Also, how do we know this mayor will be pro-town? How do we know you are pro-town? How do we know if ANYONE'S pro-town at this point?

We don't really, so I think an unofficial "mayor" will just serve to clog the thread further, will draw med-protects away from people who really need them like blues, and will end up not benefitting town in any major way.



I just want to point out I now think Brownbear is scum too.


Ahh you ninja'd me. And what a surprise; Someone disagreed with Palmar! They must be scum!
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 19 2011 18:56 GMT
#317
On August 20 2011 03:53 Palmar wrote:
I bolded the scum-logic part.


lolololol you think that's scum logic? I'm really disappointed: I'd heard you were good at this game.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 19 2011 19:00 GMT
#318
Off to get lunch now. When I come back I want something of substance out of you, Palmar.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 19 2011 19:05 GMT
#319
On August 20 2011 03:53 BrownBear wrote:
I don't think I have... please quote where you're getting that from.

The only thing I can think of is in my large post, where I said if DB is gonna be active I'm less inclined to lynch him. This means I'm less inclined to lynch DB right now, NOT that I'm "heavily advocating lynching a lurker". Please don't put words into my mouth.


Here you go:

On August 20 2011 03:35 BrownBear wrote:
If DropBear's gonna be active and making plans, I'm inclined to NOT lynch him day 1, because it means one less inactive jackass dragging us down. Plus, the more active he is, the sooner he'll slip up if he actually is scum. Of course, lynching is preferable to no-lynching in 99.99% of cases, so I'll vote for him in the end if nobody else comes forth.



Well, I read that as any scummy asshole with a plan is going to get a free bye on day 1, because you want to lynch someone inactive?

Or does, the free pass on making plans and blanket statements to avoid the lynch only extend to a specific pool of people?
Computer says mafia
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
August 19 2011 19:08 GMT
#320
On August 20 2011 03:16 DropBear wrote:
Ok so the thread so far consists of people making riddles, silly accusations and parrotting "lurkers are bad". This shit needs to stop. Noone has said ANYTHING of value yet.

I made a post about this but the issue was ignored so here goes.

THE GRAND DESIGN

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- This game has the possibility of no-lynches

- No-lynches are generally anti-town

- We need a system to ensure they do not happen

- I propose that we elect an unofficial mayor to decide how to break ties close to deadline, should a no-lynch look likely. Such a person will be responsible for choosing who changes their votes and how it is done, or alternatively they will take on the responsibility of being the person who changes their vote to ensure a lynch takes place.

- Such a person needs to be willing to cop criticism and cannot be a total fuckwit. Hopefully non-mafia as well They will not be required to do anything if a lynch looks like going ahead.

- I nominate myself for the position. I am decisive, active, capable of good reasoning and most importantly I am town.


I don't know if this had worked in a previous game, but this sounds like a really dangerous (or stupid) idea.

I'm not really sure which is scummier, DB and his policy posts/proposal or Palmar jumping on him so arbitrarily. Especially with Palmar also preemptively defending himself in case we actually kill off DB:

On August 20 2011 03:10 Palmar wrote:
And of course Nard's post is hella scummy if you flip town, it means he's trying to set me up as a follow up lynch, which is potentially really good for mafia.

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